So where are all the server crashing posts now?
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@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
The problem is this. Even if EVERYTHING was flawless, people would still whine about something. That's how it goes. The servers have been awesome. For days now
People will always find something to not like but we all cant act like the frustration hasnt been somewhat warranted. yea I get it that people come onto the forums and act like idiots but lets be real, there are people on the other side of the argument that do the same stuff on here.
Being frustrated and being a whiny btch are 2 different things. Its a video game. If half the people took their real lives as serious as they do a video game, they wouldn't be complaining about it.
That's fair but the same way people are allowed to voice their support for the game, others are allowed to voice their displeasure. Its a public forum, thats whats going to happen. Especially when a majority of the people on the forum are upset.
I can uderstand that. I guess what I meant was that if they took everything in their life this serious, they wouldn't care so much about a game. It's a hobby. Something fun for my downtime. I have way more important things to put my lifes energy towards.. Family, job, friends, planning for the furure etc... If I'm going to put all my energy and demand answers its going to be something that actually affects my life.. This video game does not. That's what i was trying to say. And I'm not directing it at you. You seem level-headed
I know you werent referring to me, I appreciate it. I agree with you 100% and I feel the same. Thats the same reason why I will never understand the people that spend thousands of dollars on the game. but just playing devils advocate here, there are some people that this one of the few sources of entertainment they have. Sounds sad but im willing to bet that there a lot of people like that on these forums and I can see where they would be coming from on taking it so seriously. Im right there with you though, frustration is one thing but coming on here to start arguments and moan and groan just seems like a waste of time
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@magicbush86_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@grizzbear55_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@magicbush86_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@grizzbear55_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@magicbush86_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
We won't know if it's resolved until Friday and Saturday. It worked fine for me last mid-week as well and then Friday and Saturday I couldn't play at all. So we don't know if it's resolved yet. This thread is premature.
Oh but the threads the OP is referring to weren't premature? You know the ones i'm talking about. The ones posted at Noon titled "Wonder how long server will be down tonight?" 8 hours prior to scheduled announced maintenance? Remember those? , but that isn't considered premature?
I don't as I never saw threads like that, but then I don't get on the forums 24/7 lol. Regardless we will know this weekend.
Then how can you say his post is premature without knowing of the other? Kind of a contradiction isn't it? And how would you know if someone was on 24/7 if you aren't?
Are you just in a bad mood or what lol? I was obviously referring to this thread being premature as we don't know if the servers are fixed... Nothing to do with any other threads.
@magicbush86_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@grizzbear55_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@magicbush86_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@grizzbear55_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@magicbush86_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@grizzbear55_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@magicbush86_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
We won't know if it's resolved until Friday and Saturday. It worked fine for me last mid-week as well and then Friday and Saturday I couldn't play at all. So we don't know if it's resolved yet. This thread is premature.
Oh but the threads the OP is referring to weren't premature? You know the ones i'm talking about. The ones posted at Noon titled "Wonder how long server will be down tonight?" 8 hours prior to scheduled announced maintenance? Remember those? , but that isn't considered premature?
I don't as I never saw threads like that, but then I don't get on the forums 24/7 lol. Regardless we will know this weekend.
Then how can you say his post is premature without knowing of the other? Kind of a contradiction isn't it? And how would you know if someone was on 24/7 if you aren't?
Are you just in a bad mood or what lol? I was obviously referring to this thread being premature as we don't know if the servers are fixed... Nothing to do with any other threads.
Bad mood? Why b/c i presented logic towards a post all of a sudden i'm in a bad mood? I'm just asking questions.
Your just trying to pick a fight pointing out petty things and taking what I said out of context. Have fun with that. I'm out.
Not picking a fight in no way shape or form, i was pointing out things in your post that needed clarification.
For instance you said "Nothing to do with any other threads." When title of this thread refers to exactly that point, So how am i taking it out of context when you obviously don't even know what the context is?
But that's fine you have a nice day!
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@hoboadam_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@vagimon_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@hoboadam_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
Say what you want, but things look much more stable.
What did they do to fix it? I don't really care. It's working. They certainly didn't sit around waiting to see if things got better on it's own.
Yes, I shouldn't be congratulating them for something that should have been working all along. There's something to be said though for the fact that they did work out some of these big issues with connectivity. Most of the grunt work being done by SDS folks that have never posted on the boards before.
Anyways, it's refreshing to not comb through 12 posts of people saying the same thing, whining, complaining, raging etc.
This is off topic, but since I have you here, and since you seem to know some stuff about servers and such, I’ll go ahead and ask: what is happening when pitch speeds become ridiculously fast against certain opponents? For instance, you can play against someone who throws Chapman against you and he is manageable, and other times, and on the same difficulty level, he is throwing vapor. I understand there are human factors involved like fatigue and focus and what not, but the phenomenon to which I’m referring, is beyond that. Some of us talked a lot about that last year, but I don’t think we had your expertise. Does ping play a part? Is there some sort of connection compensation going on? We talked about not making the head to head connection be pvp but instead connecting the matchup through a dedicated server. Is there anything to that? Thanks.
My understanding.... and this is based on feedback over the years and nothing else because I don't write their code but I HAVE been playing online games for 20+ years....
My understanding is that in H2H, one console is considered the home team and is also hosting the game. During the game, your stats and data is being fed to the SDS servers for stats, progress etc. All warehouse data type stuff. Post game, both consoles send results to SDS data server, reconciliation takes place, both users get splash screen with the result. Both parties go about their business.
Lag during game play is primarily on the "host console". Either the connection they have, or your connection to them. More often than not though, the home team's ping is going to drive the bus, unless one user has a connection so bad, even AOL would laugh.
For online sports games, it's a P2P (peer to peer) connection. That's because it's two users only.
Call of Duty for instance is server based game play, that ping has a larger impact on. MMORPG games use your PC or console for graphics rendering only. Moving around a map requires communication with a server for your location on the node. It's why games use zones and instances for travel and very few massive games are seemless. Elder Scrolls comes to mind.
Hope this helps answer "high level" what you are probably questioning. Those stutters on pitches when you are throwing, are likely not stuttering for the opponent as well.
Thanks for the response. Makes sense. I’ve often wondered if all star and HoF looks the same for everybody, like if where you live and your connection impacts how the game plays for you. I’m sure a bunch of other stuff plays into this, but I’ll be watching some YouTuber play and he’ll be able to keep his pci neutral, recognize, say, a high fastball, and it seems like he has so much time to get his pci where it needs to be. I’m sure when videos are uploaded to YouTube it’s not captured exactly how it was when the person was playing, but everything looks so much slower.
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@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
The problem is this. Even if EVERYTHING was flawless, people would still whine about something. That's how it goes. The servers have been awesome. For days now
People will always find something to not like but we all cant act like the frustration hasnt been somewhat warranted. yea I get it that people come onto the forums and act like idiots but lets be real, there are people on the other side of the argument that do the same stuff on here.
Being frustrated and being a whiny btch are 2 different things. Its a video game. If half the people took their real lives as serious as they do a video game, they wouldn't be complaining about it.
That's fair but the same way people are allowed to voice their support for the game, others are allowed to voice their displeasure. Its a public forum, thats whats going to happen. Especially when a majority of the people on the forum are upset.
I can uderstand that. I guess what I meant was that if they took everything in their life this serious, they wouldn't care so much about a game. It's a hobby. Something fun for my downtime. I have way more important things to put my lifes energy towards.. Family, job, friends, planning for the furure etc... If I'm going to put all my energy and demand answers its going to be something that actually affects my life.. This video game does not. That's what i was trying to say. And I'm not directing it at you. You seem level-headed
I know you werent referring to me, I appreciate it. I agree with you 100% and I feel the same. Thats the same reason why I will never understand the people that spend thousands of dollars on the game. but just playing devils advocate here, there are some people that this one of the few sources of entertainment they have. Sounds sad but im willing to bet that there a lot of people like that on these forums and I can see where they would be coming from on taking it so seriously. Im right there with you though, frustration is one thing but coming on here to start arguments and moan and groan just seems like a waste of time
I can too. I understand gaming is big is some people's lives and its all they have for the most part. I'm not judging anyone's situation or what life has thrown at them.. Video games are a way to escape and are just plain fun. And I also agree that people have every right to voice their concerns and ask for answers but this whole thing has gotten way outta hand lol. I want to play this game and have it be perfect just as much as them but I can't let it enrage me to the point where it affects my life.. Maybe I look at it differently but it seems like a silly waste of their energy. Like why not put fire, time and energy towards something actually going to help them advance in life or something. I guarantee they won't care so much that the servers are down at 7am eastern everyday when they are focused on something else for more than 30 seconds.
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@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
The problem is this. Even if EVERYTHING was flawless, people would still whine about something. That's how it goes. The servers have been awesome. For days now
People will always find something to not like but we all cant act like the frustration hasnt been somewhat warranted. yea I get it that people come onto the forums and act like idiots but lets be real, there are people on the other side of the argument that do the same stuff on here.
Being frustrated and being a whiny btch are 2 different things. Its a video game. If half the people took their real lives as serious as they do a video game, they wouldn't be complaining about it.
That's fair but the same way people are allowed to voice their support for the game, others are allowed to voice their displeasure. Its a public forum, thats whats going to happen. Especially when a majority of the people on the forum are upset.
I can uderstand that. I guess what I meant was that if they took everything in their life this serious, they wouldn't care so much about a game. It's a hobby. Something fun for my downtime. I have way more important things to put my lifes energy towards.. Family, job, friends, planning for the furure etc... If I'm going to put all my energy and demand answers its going to be something that actually affects my life.. This video game does not. That's what i was trying to say. And I'm not directing it at you. You seem level-headed
I know you werent referring to me, I appreciate it. I agree with you 100% and I feel the same. Thats the same reason why I will never understand the people that spend thousands of dollars on the game. but just playing devils advocate here, there are some people that this one of the few sources of entertainment they have. Sounds sad but im willing to bet that there a lot of people like that on these forums and I can see where they would be coming from on taking it so seriously. Im right there with you though, frustration is one thing but coming on here to start arguments and moan and groan just seems like a waste of time
I can too. I understand gaming is big is some people's lives and its all they have for the most part. I'm not judging anyone's situation or what life has thrown at them.. Video games are a way to escape and are just plain fun. And I also agree that people have every right to voice their concerns and ask for answers but this whole thing has gotten way outta hand lol. I want to play this game and have it be perfect just as much as them but I can't let it enrage me to the point where it affects my life.. Maybe I look at it differently but it seems like a silly waste of their energy. Like why not put fire, time and energy towards something actually going to help them advance in life or something. I guarantee they won't care so much that the servers are down at 7am eastern everyday when they are focused on something else for more than 30 seconds.
Couldnt have said it better myself. Though lets not forget that some of the people that complain about the complaining are just as bad. goes both ways. Obviously not implying this means you but yk what i mean
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@vagimon_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@hoboadam_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@vagimon_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@hoboadam_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
Say what you want, but things look much more stable.
What did they do to fix it? I don't really care. It's working. They certainly didn't sit around waiting to see if things got better on it's own.
Yes, I shouldn't be congratulating them for something that should have been working all along. There's something to be said though for the fact that they did work out some of these big issues with connectivity. Most of the grunt work being done by SDS folks that have never posted on the boards before.
Anyways, it's refreshing to not comb through 12 posts of people saying the same thing, whining, complaining, raging etc.
This is off topic, but since I have you here, and since you seem to know some stuff about servers and such, I’ll go ahead and ask: what is happening when pitch speeds become ridiculously fast against certain opponents? For instance, you can play against someone who throws Chapman against you and he is manageable, and other times, and on the same difficulty level, he is throwing vapor. I understand there are human factors involved like fatigue and focus and what not, but the phenomenon to which I’m referring, is beyond that. Some of us talked a lot about that last year, but I don’t think we had your expertise. Does ping play a part? Is there some sort of connection compensation going on? We talked about not making the head to head connection be pvp but instead connecting the matchup through a dedicated server. Is there anything to that? Thanks.
My understanding.... and this is based on feedback over the years and nothing else because I don't write their code but I HAVE been playing online games for 20+ years....
My understanding is that in H2H, one console is considered the home team and is also hosting the game. During the game, your stats and data is being fed to the SDS servers for stats, progress etc. All warehouse data type stuff. Post game, both consoles send results to SDS data server, reconciliation takes place, both users get splash screen with the result. Both parties go about their business.
Lag during game play is primarily on the "host console". Either the connection they have, or your connection to them. More often than not though, the home team's ping is going to drive the bus, unless one user has a connection so bad, even AOL would laugh.
For online sports games, it's a P2P (peer to peer) connection. That's because it's two users only.
Call of Duty for instance is server based game play, that ping has a larger impact on. MMORPG games use your PC or console for graphics rendering only. Moving around a map requires communication with a server for your location on the node. It's why games use zones and instances for travel and very few massive games are seemless. Elder Scrolls comes to mind.
Hope this helps answer "high level" what you are probably questioning. Those stutters on pitches when you are throwing, are likely not stuttering for the opponent as well.
Thanks for the response. Makes sense. I’ve often wondered if all star and HoF looks the same for everybody, like if where you live and your connection impacts how the game plays for you. I’m sure a bunch of other stuff plays into this, but I’ll be watching some YouTuber play and he’ll be able to keep his pci neutral, recognize, say, a high fastball, and it seems like he has so much time to get his pci where it needs to be. I’m sure when videos are uploaded to YouTube it’s not captured exactly how it was when the person was playing, but everything looks so much slower.
YouTube guys typically "Home hunt" as well. That's another reason they put up splash pages between games while searching for an opponent.
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@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
The problem is this. Even if EVERYTHING was flawless, people would still whine about something. That's how it goes. The servers have been awesome. For days now
People will always find something to not like but we all cant act like the frustration hasnt been somewhat warranted. yea I get it that people come onto the forums and act like idiots but lets be real, there are people on the other side of the argument that do the same stuff on here.
Being frustrated and being a whiny btch are 2 different things. Its a video game. If half the people took their real lives as serious as they do a video game, they wouldn't be complaining about it.
That's fair but the same way people are allowed to voice their support for the game, others are allowed to voice their displeasure. Its a public forum, thats whats going to happen. Especially when a majority of the people on the forum are upset.
I can uderstand that. I guess what I meant was that if they took everything in their life this serious, they wouldn't care so much about a game. It's a hobby. Something fun for my downtime. I have way more important things to put my lifes energy towards.. Family, job, friends, planning for the furure etc... If I'm going to put all my energy and demand answers its going to be something that actually affects my life.. This video game does not. That's what i was trying to say. And I'm not directing it at you. You seem level-headed
I know you werent referring to me, I appreciate it. I agree with you 100% and I feel the same. Thats the same reason why I will never understand the people that spend thousands of dollars on the game. but just playing devils advocate here, there are some people that this one of the few sources of entertainment they have. Sounds sad but im willing to bet that there a lot of people like that on these forums and I can see where they would be coming from on taking it so seriously. Im right there with you though, frustration is one thing but coming on here to start arguments and moan and groan just seems like a waste of time
I can too. I understand gaming is big is some people's lives and its all they have for the most part. I'm not judging anyone's situation or what life has thrown at them.. Video games are a way to escape and are just plain fun. And I also agree that people have every right to voice their concerns and ask for answers but this whole thing has gotten way outta hand lol. I want to play this game and have it be perfect just as much as them but I can't let it enrage me to the point where it affects my life.. Maybe I look at it differently but it seems like a silly waste of their energy. Like why not put fire, time and energy towards something actually going to help them advance in life or something. I guarantee they won't care so much that the servers are down at 7am eastern everyday when they are focused on something else for more than 30 seconds.
Couldnt have said it better myself. Though lets not forget that some of the people that complain about the complaining are just as bad. goes both ways. Obviously not implying this means you but yk what i mean
Haha yea
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Lets see what happens Friday at noon pacific time. Ill believe its fixed when we make it thru a weekend
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@hoboadam_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
Say what you want, but things look much more stable.
What did they do to fix it? I don't really care. It's working. They certainly didn't sit around waiting to see if things got better on it's own.
Yes, I shouldn't be congratulating them for something that should have been working all along. There's something to be said though for the fact that they did work out some of these big issues with connectivity. Most of the grunt work being done by SDS folks that have never posted on the boards before.
Anyways, it's refreshing to not comb through 12 posts of people saying the same thing, whining, complaining, raging etc.
People have a right to voice their displeasure when a product they purchased isn't working. It's posts from corporate shills that grind my gears.
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@savefarris_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
If $60 is "good money", then perhaps you should be spending less time playing and more time devoted to school/work.
If the "good money" you speak of is purchased stubs ... well ... that's on you, buddy.
That's such an entitled brat point of view. Every dollar earned by someone is good money that people have a right to value as they wish. There are people all over the world that an extra $60 would be very meaningful for them. You have a very disgusting, entitled attitude.
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You guys will argue about anything. I can assure you that when something is wrong , like server crashes every night, people will complain. There will never be a time when this isn’t the case. You can like or hate that fact and yet it will always be true.
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@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
The problem is this. Even if EVERYTHING was flawless, people would still whine about something. That's how it goes. The servers have been awesome. For days now
People will always find something to not like but we all cant act like the frustration hasnt been somewhat warranted. yea I get it that people come onto the forums and act like idiots but lets be real, there are people on the other side of the argument that do the same stuff on here.
Being frustrated and being a whiny btch are 2 different things. Its a video game. If half the people took their real lives as serious as they do a video game, they wouldn't be complaining about it.
That's fair but the same way people are allowed to voice their support for the game, others are allowed to voice their displeasure. Its a public forum, thats whats going to happen. Especially when a majority of the people on the forum are upset.
I can uderstand that. I guess what I meant was that if they took everything in their life this serious, they wouldn't care so much about a game. It's a hobby. Something fun for my downtime. I have way more important things to put my lifes energy towards.. Family, job, friends, planning for the furure etc... If I'm going to put all my energy and demand answers its going to be something that actually affects my life.. This video game does not. That's what i was trying to say. And I'm not directing it at you. You seem level-headed
I know you werent referring to me, I appreciate it. I agree with you 100% and I feel the same. Thats the same reason why I will never understand the people that spend thousands of dollars on the game. but just playing devils advocate here, there are some people that this one of the few sources of entertainment they have. Sounds sad but im willing to bet that there a lot of people like that on these forums and I can see where they would be coming from on taking it so seriously. Im right there with you though, frustration is one thing but coming on here to start arguments and moan and groan just seems like a waste of time
You mean like this thread? It was intended to start an argument.
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@vipersneak_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@ny_giants4_life said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@kingakp_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
The problem is this. Even if EVERYTHING was flawless, people would still whine about something. That's how it goes. The servers have been awesome. For days now
People will always find something to not like but we all cant act like the frustration hasnt been somewhat warranted. yea I get it that people come onto the forums and act like idiots but lets be real, there are people on the other side of the argument that do the same stuff on here.
Being frustrated and being a whiny btch are 2 different things. Its a video game. If half the people took their real lives as serious as they do a video game, they wouldn't be complaining about it.
That's fair but the same way people are allowed to voice their support for the game, others are allowed to voice their displeasure. Its a public forum, thats whats going to happen. Especially when a majority of the people on the forum are upset.
I can uderstand that. I guess what I meant was that if they took everything in their life this serious, they wouldn't care so much about a game. It's a hobby. Something fun for my downtime. I have way more important things to put my lifes energy towards.. Family, job, friends, planning for the furure etc... If I'm going to put all my energy and demand answers its going to be something that actually affects my life.. This video game does not. That's what i was trying to say. And I'm not directing it at you. You seem level-headed
I know you werent referring to me, I appreciate it. I agree with you 100% and I feel the same. Thats the same reason why I will never understand the people that spend thousands of dollars on the game. but just playing devils advocate here, there are some people that this one of the few sources of entertainment they have. Sounds sad but im willing to bet that there a lot of people like that on these forums and I can see where they would be coming from on taking it so seriously. Im right there with you though, frustration is one thing but coming on here to start arguments and moan and groan just seems like a waste of time
You mean like this thread? It was intended to start an argument.
That's exactly what I mean
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This is really just a troll thread and should be closed. I get why the OP made it, but probably should have just said "Isn't nice to have the servers working, and not to have to complain about them anymore" or something like that.
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@buddyhightower_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
This is really just a troll thread and should be closed. I get why the OP made it, but probably should have just said "Isn't nice to have the servers working, and not to have to complain about them anymore" or something like that.
As typed, it's just trolling.Oh yea it was 100% intended to complain. Another dude even made another thread thanking SDS for fixing the servers lol
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SDS has a huge backlog of issues. I still can't get Jackie 99 due to a bug, that only SDS can fix. Been waiting 12 days. Servers might be better, yet they still have a ton of issues to fix (including the sell now set of bugs that are costing people real $$). SDS isn't going to be sleeping anytime soon.
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@woozypolarbear_xbl said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
@hoboadam_psn said in So where are all the server crashing posts now?:
Say what you want, but things look much more stable.
What did they do to fix it? I don't really care. It's working. They certainly didn't sit around waiting to see if things got better on it's own.
Yes, I shouldn't be congratulating them for something that should have been working all along. There's something to be said though for the fact that they did work out some of these big issues with connectivity. Most of the grunt work being done by SDS folks that have never posted on the boards before.
Anyways, it's refreshing to not comb through 12 posts of people saying the same thing, whining, complaining, raging etc.
People have a right to voice their displeasure when a product they purchased isn't working. It's posts from corporate shills that grind my gears.
People have the right to voice displeasure when some punk kid creates a thread without using search feature. And then when told about said feature still insists on wasting the time of the employees that are trying to fix other problems that are more pressing by creating more of the same type of thread just out of spite.
Oh yeah what were all the disgruntled posters telling people who were trying to talk reason saying? "If you don't like the thread, don't post in it!" Yeah well guess what don't like it? Don't post in it! kick rocks!
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Hi. I'm the OP.
I made the thread as a breath of fresh air.
I wasn't complaining about a thing. Certainly wasn't trollin'.
Got problems with that? Too bad.
Find the post refreshing? Good. Me too.
Don't care either way? Even better.
