Ozzie Smith 99 power?
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@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
It makes about as much sense as some of the secondary positions they gave to some of the program cards.
In no world ever should a guy with 28 HR over a 19 year career have 99 power.
And Pudge and Posada shouldn’t have 2B eligibility. I don’t disagree with you, I'm just saying both have the same degree of ridiculousness.
At least they’ve played at least an inning there. Lindor hasn’t played anywhere but SS majors or minors but still has 2B and 3B as secondaries
But this is the way secondaries should actually be handled. An athletic shortstop like Lindor can without a doubt play 2nd or 3rd. Even though he never plays elsewhere, those are his “secondary” positions. Pudge and Posada have it slapped on there is just because someone was able to go read Baseball Reference and go “oh Jorge played an inning there and Pudge played two”. Just because someone played an inning or even a game somewhere, does not mean it was there secondary position and just because someone never plays a different position doesn’t mean they don’t have a secondary.
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@crashbowman447_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
It makes about as much sense as some of the secondary positions they gave to some of the program cards.
In no world ever should a guy with 28 HR over a 19 year career have 99 power.
And Pudge and Posada shouldn’t have 2B eligibility. I don’t disagree with you, I'm just saying both have the same degree of ridiculousness.
At least they’ve played at least an inning there. Lindor hasn’t played anywhere but SS majors or minors but still has 2B and 3B as secondaries
But this is the way secondaries should actually be handled. An athletic shortstop like Lindor can without a doubt play 2nd or 3rd. Even though he never plays elsewhere, those are his “secondary” positions. Pudge and Posada have it slapped on there is just because someone was able to go read Baseball Reference and go “oh Jorge played an inning there and Pudge played two”. Just because someone played an inning or even a game somewhere, does not mean it was there secondary position and just because someone never plays a different position doesn’t mean they don’t have a secondary.
You can’t have it both ways, either they played it and have a secondary or they didn’t and they shouldn’t. There should be a cut off of innings or something 1 inning or 4 innings shouldn’t justify giving a secondary. Ripken’s finest doesn’t have a secondary and he was athletic enough to start and end his career at 3B.
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He has 99 power and that speed and fielding? Thank you, SDS
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MRAD2010replied to cjhanz84 on Sep 18, 2022, 1:03 AM last edited by MRAD2010_XBL Sep 18, 2022, 1:03 AM
@cjhanz84_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
He has 99 power and that speed and fielding? Thank you, SDS
Jimmy Rollins lite?
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Because fielding does not matter.
In strat o matic these guys would be a 5 and make errors on fielding checks at a 70% rate.Not here.
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He gets 99 power, because Pedro gets 103mph, because if you win a batting contest you get 125 power, because contact hitters and pitch to contact pitchers don’t matter.
They can’t balance the game properly
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@SakAttack87_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
If the almighty Jordan Walker with his 107/120 power and 0 MLB at-bats can exist then so can a juiced Ozzie Smith. Time to stop overthinking a fantasy mode in a video game.
If nobodies can be made into studs so should legitimate Hall of Famers.
I get what you’re saying, but the season Walker is having in AA, as a 20 yo, is pretty special. Future Stars are real people - a lot of them will be stars…in the future lol. Sure, some of them won’t pan out, but I would bet Walker will be one of the ones that will.
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@mubby_33_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
Living in the middle of Cards Cubs country I ve seen countless games as a kids. Only HR I ever remember Ozzie hitting was his game 5 walkoff, Go Crazy Folks. That of course was off a right hander and barely cleared the fence. So not sure how they got power vs left. But to answer your second question, yes, most usable Ozzie card ever. Irl he was known for defense and speed and could slap the ball around the diamond and turn them into doubles. Playing on the old turf in St Louis definitely helped. So great person for sure gall of famer his skills just don't translate to dymond dynasty very well.
I never got to seen Ozzie play in person. I usually went to Yankees games; and of course, that was before inter league play. Which I disliked when the leagues used different rules. I have watched a young star pitcher lose his career because he had to hit, got on base, then ruined his leg running the bases. Though I am not here for that. Anyway, Ozzie was super athletic. Those backflips or whatever they are called were just fun and a sign of his energy and athleticism.
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@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
It makes about as much sense as some of the secondary positions they gave to some of the program cards.
In no world ever should a guy with 28 HR over a 19 year career have 99 power.
Don’t be a hater. You don’t have to use him. There are so many cards in the program.
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@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@crashbowman447_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
It makes about as much sense as some of the secondary positions they gave to some of the program cards.
In no world ever should a guy with 28 HR over a 19 year career have 99 power.
And Pudge and Posada shouldn’t have 2B eligibility. I don’t disagree with you, I'm just saying both have the same degree of ridiculousness.
At least they’ve played at least an inning there. Lindor hasn’t played anywhere but SS majors or minors but still has 2B and 3B as secondaries
But this is the way secondaries should actually be handled. An athletic shortstop like Lindor can without a doubt play 2nd or 3rd. Even though he never plays elsewhere, those are his “secondary” positions. Pudge and Posada have it slapped on there is just because someone was able to go read Baseball Reference and go “oh Jorge played an inning there and Pudge played two”. Just because someone played an inning or even a game somewhere, does not mean it was there secondary position and just because someone never plays a different position doesn’t mean they don’t have a secondary.
You can’t have it both ways, either they played it and have a secondary or they didn’t and they shouldn’t. There should be a cut off of innings or something 1 inning or 4 innings shouldn’t justify giving a secondary. Ripken’s finest doesn’t have a secondary and he was athletic enough to start and end his career at 3B.
I agree that it’s strange for Ripken not to have a third baseman secondary. It was a major factor in his longevity. He was a good playing at third.
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@brainfreeze442 said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@crashbowman447_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
It makes about as much sense as some of the secondary positions they gave to some of the program cards.
In no world ever should a guy with 28 HR over a 19 year career have 99 power.
And Pudge and Posada shouldn’t have 2B eligibility. I don’t disagree with you, I'm just saying both have the same degree of ridiculousness.
At least they’ve played at least an inning there. Lindor hasn’t played anywhere but SS majors or minors but still has 2B and 3B as secondaries
But this is the way secondaries should actually be handled. An athletic shortstop like Lindor can without a doubt play 2nd or 3rd. Even though he never plays elsewhere, those are his “secondary” positions. Pudge and Posada have it slapped on there is just because someone was able to go read Baseball Reference and go “oh Jorge played an inning there and Pudge played two”. Just because someone played an inning or even a game somewhere, does not mean it was there secondary position and just because someone never plays a different position doesn’t mean they don’t have a secondary.
You can’t have it both ways, either they played it and have a secondary or they didn’t and they shouldn’t. There should be a cut off of innings or something 1 inning or 4 innings shouldn’t justify giving a secondary. Ripken’s finest doesn’t have a secondary and he was athletic enough to start and end his career at 3B.
I agree that it’s strange for Ripken not to have a third baseman secondary. It was a major factor in his longevity. He was a good playing at third.
It's because the card is based on 1984 and he played every game at SS.
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@flaquis_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@brainfreeze442 said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@crashbowman447_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
It makes about as much sense as some of the secondary positions they gave to some of the program cards.
In no world ever should a guy with 28 HR over a 19 year career have 99 power.
And Pudge and Posada shouldn’t have 2B eligibility. I don’t disagree with you, I'm just saying both have the same degree of ridiculousness.
At least they’ve played at least an inning there. Lindor hasn’t played anywhere but SS majors or minors but still has 2B and 3B as secondaries
But this is the way secondaries should actually be handled. An athletic shortstop like Lindor can without a doubt play 2nd or 3rd. Even though he never plays elsewhere, those are his “secondary” positions. Pudge and Posada have it slapped on there is just because someone was able to go read Baseball Reference and go “oh Jorge played an inning there and Pudge played two”. Just because someone played an inning or even a game somewhere, does not mean it was there secondary position and just because someone never plays a different position doesn’t mean they don’t have a secondary.
You can’t have it both ways, either they played it and have a secondary or they didn’t and they shouldn’t. There should be a cut off of innings or something 1 inning or 4 innings shouldn’t justify giving a secondary. Ripken’s finest doesn’t have a secondary and he was athletic enough to start and end his career at 3B.
I agree that it’s strange for Ripken not to have a third baseman secondary. It was a major factor in his longevity. He was a good playing at third.
It's because the card is based on 1984 and he played every game at SS.
Oh, I honestly forgot his card was a RF. Good point. I don’t use his card because I like more speed on my SS. People were complaining about Posada having a 2B, so I was only thinking of the LotF.
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Secret35Squirrelreplied to crashbowman447 on Sep 19, 2022, 3:47 AM last edited by Secret35Squirrel_PSN Sep 19, 2022, 3:48 AM
@crashbowman447_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
It makes about as much sense as some of the secondary positions they gave to some of the program cards.
In no world ever should a guy with 28 HR over a 19 year career have 99 power.
And Pudge and Posada shouldn’t have 2B eligibility. I don’t disagree with you, I'm just saying both have the same degree of ridiculousness.
At least they’ve played at least an inning there. Lindor hasn’t played anywhere but SS majors or minors but still has 2B and 3B as secondaries
But this is the way secondaries should actually be handled. An athletic shortstop like Lindor can without a doubt play 2nd or 3rd. Even though he never plays elsewhere, those are his “secondary” positions. Pudge and Posada have it slapped on there is just because someone was able to go read Baseball Reference and go “oh Jorge played an inning there and Pudge played two”. Just because someone played an inning or even a game somewhere, does not mean it was there secondary position and just because someone never plays a different position doesn’t mean they don’t have a secondary.
If being athletic enough to play other positions is the requirement then shouldn't every player have 1B as a secondary? Mo Vaughn played first base and I'm sure that every other MLB player is more athletic than him. Probably give every player the corner outfield secondary too.
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@Dolenz_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
I'll continue to say it but if you don't complain about made up attributes for Future Stars cards or ridiculously buffed Topps Now cards for single game performances then it is kind of late to start complaining now.
Just consider Ozzie's card a Topps Now card for one of the games where he did hit a HR. I would say Game 5 of the 1985 NLCS but that was against a rightie.
I'd also venture to guess that the only people who will use this card are Cardinal fans who would prefer to use it on their theme team over a Future Star who has not played a game above AA yet.
You made an excellent point. Treat like a Now card. You’re also correct that it was off a right handed.
In terms of him being better vs left or right, SDS did at least get that right. In ‘85, the only HR Ozzie hit as a left handed batter the entire year, was the one in the playoffs. -
@RazorForte45_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
In strat o matic these guys would be a 5 and make errors on fielding checks at a 70% rate.
You had me at "Strat-O-Matic"...
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@crashbowman447_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
It makes about as much sense as some of the secondary positions they gave to some of the program cards.
In no world ever should a guy with 28 HR over a 19 year career have 99 power.
And Pudge and Posada shouldn’t have 2B eligibility. I don’t disagree with you, I'm just saying both have the same degree of ridiculousness.
At least they’ve played at least an inning there. Lindor hasn’t played anywhere but SS majors or minors but still has 2B and 3B as secondaries
But this is the way secondaries should actually be handled. An athletic shortstop like Lindor can without a doubt play 2nd or 3rd. Even though he never plays elsewhere, those are his “secondary” positions. Pudge and Posada have it slapped on there is just because someone was able to go read Baseball Reference and go “oh Jorge played an inning there and Pudge played two”. Just because someone played an inning or even a game somewhere, does not mean it was there secondary position and just because someone never plays a different position doesn’t mean they don’t have a secondary.
Doesn’t Albert Pujols have a card where his primary position was a pitcher? I don’t think he played too many games there.
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@brainfreeze442 said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@crashbowman447_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
It makes about as much sense as some of the secondary positions they gave to some of the program cards.
In no world ever should a guy with 28 HR over a 19 year career have 99 power.
And Pudge and Posada shouldn’t have 2B eligibility. I don’t disagree with you, I'm just saying both have the same degree of ridiculousness.
At least they’ve played at least an inning there. Lindor hasn’t played anywhere but SS majors or minors but still has 2B and 3B as secondaries
But this is the way secondaries should actually be handled. An athletic shortstop like Lindor can without a doubt play 2nd or 3rd. Even though he never plays elsewhere, those are his “secondary” positions. Pudge and Posada have it slapped on there is just because someone was able to go read Baseball Reference and go “oh Jorge played an inning there and Pudge played two”. Just because someone played an inning or even a game somewhere, does not mean it was there secondary position and just because someone never plays a different position doesn’t mean they don’t have a secondary.
Doesn’t Albert Pujols have a card where his primary position was a pitcher? I don’t think he played too many games there.
RP actually and he is higher rated at that position than well over half of the actual relievers in the game. I want to say he pitched one inning in a blowout.
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@Dolenz_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@brainfreeze442 said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@crashbowman447_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@foge011_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@DanH35_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
It makes about as much sense as some of the secondary positions they gave to some of the program cards.
In no world ever should a guy with 28 HR over a 19 year career have 99 power.
And Pudge and Posada shouldn’t have 2B eligibility. I don’t disagree with you, I'm just saying both have the same degree of ridiculousness.
At least they’ve played at least an inning there. Lindor hasn’t played anywhere but SS majors or minors but still has 2B and 3B as secondaries
But this is the way secondaries should actually be handled. An athletic shortstop like Lindor can without a doubt play 2nd or 3rd. Even though he never plays elsewhere, those are his “secondary” positions. Pudge and Posada have it slapped on there is just because someone was able to go read Baseball Reference and go “oh Jorge played an inning there and Pudge played two”. Just because someone played an inning or even a game somewhere, does not mean it was there secondary position and just because someone never plays a different position doesn’t mean they don’t have a secondary.
Doesn’t Albert Pujols have a card where his primary position was a pitcher? I don’t think he played too many games there.
RP actually and he is higher rated at that position than well over half of the actual relievers in the game. I want to say he pitched one inning in a blowout.
I know, I actually thought it was cool they put it out. I don’t think you will run into anyone using it though. However, I have heard sports commentators comparing him to Babe as the only other player to hit ?? HRs and pitch in a regular season game. Plus, I don’t know why people are upset that the LotF cards having secondary positions they didn’t play much (or barely ever.)
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@MRAD2010_XBL said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Ozzie Smith 99 power?:
Did they give Ozzie catcher secondary? I mean, why not??
No but if they give everyone secondaries now they should’ve given Schwarber catcher secondary.
Morneau was a catcher and a goalie in hockey. Hopefully someone at SDS comes across this and they drop a 99 Morneau with 125 contact and 100 plus power against R/L along with the catcher secondary.
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