Jeter
-
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Jeter:
@snakeeyes23_psn said in Jeter:
Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
I could see Jeter getting something like a juiced up post season card. But I agree with most of the previous comments. A Jeter card would at best would have Alan Trammel like attributes offensively with like 75 defense.
Maybe they give Jeter a program similar to the one for Jackie from MLB 20. I believe with that one you had to do a bunch of missions and moments with a bronze or silver Jackie to first unlock his gold card, then more of the same to get his low diamond and finally at the end of the reward path it would be a 99 overall.
I know Jeter isn't for everyone, but his best card will definitely be solid. He will have max contact/clutch and reverse power splits (100+ vs RH; 90+ vs LH) with 85+ fielding/speed that becomes diamond after a few parallel upgrades. Think that SDS will likely give him a Signature Series card for his 99, but I can see them deciding on a Postseason card instead.
I think his best card may be like 42 collection Jackie Robinson, great contact but not much power
-
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Jeter:
@snakeeyes23_psn said in Jeter:
Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
I could see Jeter getting something like a juiced up post season card. But I agree with most of the previous comments. A Jeter card would at best would have Alan Trammel like attributes offensively with like 75 defense.
Maybe they give Jeter a program similar to the one for Jackie from MLB 20. I believe with that one you had to do a bunch of missions and moments with a bronze or silver Jackie to first unlock his gold card, then more of the same to get his low diamond and finally at the end of the reward path it would be a 99 overall.
I know Jeter isn't for everyone, but his best card will definitely be solid. He will have max contact/clutch and reverse power splits (100+ vs RH; 90+ vs LH) with 85+ fielding/speed that becomes diamond after a few parallel upgrades. Think that SDS will likely give him a Signature Series card for his 99, but I can see them deciding on a Postseason card instead.
He isn’t going to have 100/90 power lmao
They just gave Trea Turner 102/121 power on his Finest card in a year where he hit 28 home runs. Previously, he has never hit 20, but they juiced him like they do for most big names especially for their best cards. Jeter is the biggest name this year and hit 24 homers in 1999 so you know they are going to boost the pop to replicate his absolute peak.
-
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@killerpresence4 said in Jeter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@killerpresence4 said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@dolenz_psn said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@lioned-33_xbl said in Jeter:
Looks like Jeter is the legend this year. Nintendo accidentally leaked the deluxe editions. Announcement On 2.2.22
Looking forward to Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Looking forward to non-Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Won’t be me. If SDS wants to give the worst defensive SS of all time inflated fielding attributes, they are welcome to.
Come on he’s not the worst. He certainly isn’t the best, but saying he was the worst is a gross exaggeration. I would say that he was average to slightly below average defensively.
He may not be the worst of all time, but he’s easily the worst of the modern era. His -162 DRS is over twice as bad as the next lowest, and his -66.1 UZR is by far the lowest as well.
Yes I get it, but those numbers are a culmination of a 20+ year career. There are very few SS out there that have had that long of a career. SS is one of the most demanding positions on the field and thus ends up with shorter careers do to the toll it takes on their bodies. I’m just saying that he is not as bad as the one guy made him out to be. Sometimes we get too bogged down in advanced metrics and fail to take into account the whole athlete. We all know he didn’t have the greatest range but he was a solid routine play defender. And truthfully, he didn’t need to be greatest defender on those Yankees teams. All those teams needed from him was to make the routine plays. His bat was what took him to HOF level. And no I’m certainly not a Jeter fanboy, I was not a big fan of his during his playing days, I’m just merely pointing out the exaggeration of the statement that was made.
Having the worst numbers makes you the worst. Being bad for a long time doesn’t make them look any better.
I think was was being said here is you also can’t just go by TOTALS to make your point, per season average would be a better comp.
-
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@dolenz_psn said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@lioned-33_xbl said in Jeter:
Looks like Jeter is the legend this year. Nintendo accidentally leaked the deluxe editions. Announcement On 2.2.22
Looking forward to Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Looking forward to non-Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Won’t be me. If SDS wants to give the worst defensive SS of all time inflated fielding attributes, they are welcome to.
Fernando Tatis Jr. says I see (hear) you!
-
@ericulous1_psn said in Jeter:
@savefarris_psn said in Jeter:
@ericulous1_psn said in Jeter:
@savefarris_psn said in Jeter:
Can't wait to play with the 5th best shortstop in the AL in the 90s/00s.
Also, you did say 90s which adds Ripken and Larkin to the mix for a chunk of their career.
Larkin: not in the AL
Ripken: By the time Jeter became DEREK JETER, Ripken had already made the move to 3B. Although even as a 3B, he was STILL a better SS than Jetes. -
I suppose Jeter's 99 card can be a Prime, mitigating against the bad defense argument.
-
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Jeter:
@snakeeyes23_psn said in Jeter:
Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
I could see Jeter getting something like a juiced up post season card. But I agree with most of the previous comments. A Jeter card would at best would have Alan Trammel like attributes offensively with like 75 defense.
Maybe they give Jeter a program similar to the one for Jackie from MLB 20. I believe with that one you had to do a bunch of missions and moments with a bronze or silver Jackie to first unlock his gold card, then more of the same to get his low diamond and finally at the end of the reward path it would be a 99 overall.
I know Jeter isn't for everyone, but his best card will definitely be solid. He will have max contact/clutch and reverse power splits (100+ vs RH; 90+ vs LH) with 85+ fielding/speed that becomes diamond after a few parallel upgrades. Think that SDS will likely give him a Signature Series card for his 99, but I can see them deciding on a Postseason card instead.
He isn’t going to have 100/90 power lmao
They just gave Trea Turner 102/121 power on his Finest card in a year where he hit 28 home runs. Previously, he has never hit 20, but they juiced him like they do for most big names especially for their best cards. Jeter is the biggest name this year and hit 24 homers in 1999 so you know they are going to boost the pop to replicate his absolute peak.
Even if his best card is based solely on 1999, he’d only have like 80 power max. That number only decreases if they give him a card based on his career. Trea Turner getting boosted has nothing to do with him being a big name and everything to do with it being a finest card, which are all ridiculously boosted. Harper’s 2015 season was way better than his 2021 season, yet his finest is better than his 2015 MVP card.
-
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Jeter:
@snakeeyes23_psn said in Jeter:
Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
I could see Jeter getting something like a juiced up post season card. But I agree with most of the previous comments. A Jeter card would at best would have Alan Trammel like attributes offensively with like 75 defense.
Maybe they give Jeter a program similar to the one for Jackie from MLB 20. I believe with that one you had to do a bunch of missions and moments with a bronze or silver Jackie to first unlock his gold card, then more of the same to get his low diamond and finally at the end of the reward path it would be a 99 overall.
I know Jeter isn't for everyone, but his best card will definitely be solid. He will have max contact/clutch and reverse power splits (100+ vs RH; 90+ vs LH) with 85+ fielding/speed that becomes diamond after a few parallel upgrades. Think that SDS will likely give him a Signature Series card for his 99, but I can see them deciding on a Postseason card instead.
He isn’t going to have 100/90 power lmao
They just gave Trea Turner 102/121 power on his Finest card in a year where he hit 28 home runs. Previously, he has never hit 20, but they juiced him like they do for most big names especially for their best cards. Jeter is the biggest name this year and hit 24 homers in 1999 so you know they are going to boost the pop to replicate his absolute peak.
Even if his best card is based solely on 1999, he’d only have like 80 power max. That number only decreases if they give him a card based on his career. Trea Turner getting boosted has nothing to do with him being a big name and everything to do with it being a finest card, which are all ridiculously boosted. Harper’s 2015 season was way better than his 2021 season, yet his finest is better than his 2015 MVP card.
They can boost his attributes however they like. They proved it with postseason cards, compared to legend postseason cards. They do it with All Star cards. If they can give Ty Cobb the power they did for his Prime card, they could absolutely give Jeter whatever power attributes they want.
-
For those that don't want Jeter, you may not have to worry about it...
https://twitter.com/AquaX107/status/1488342587203362818?s=20&t=VINNWjXrvEcaZE-QEbSppg
https://www.twitch.tv/roobunz/clip/ApatheticInnocentNewtDatBoi-7aVuwZdScoBESQmJ
-
@poksey_mlbts said in Jeter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Jeter:
@snakeeyes23_psn said in Jeter:
Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
I could see Jeter getting something like a juiced up post season card. But I agree with most of the previous comments. A Jeter card would at best would have Alan Trammel like attributes offensively with like 75 defense.
Maybe they give Jeter a program similar to the one for Jackie from MLB 20. I believe with that one you had to do a bunch of missions and moments with a bronze or silver Jackie to first unlock his gold card, then more of the same to get his low diamond and finally at the end of the reward path it would be a 99 overall.
I know Jeter isn't for everyone, but his best card will definitely be solid. He will have max contact/clutch and reverse power splits (100+ vs RH; 90+ vs LH) with 85+ fielding/speed that becomes diamond after a few parallel upgrades. Think that SDS will likely give him a Signature Series card for his 99, but I can see them deciding on a Postseason card instead.
He isn’t going to have 100/90 power lmao
They just gave Trea Turner 102/121 power on his Finest card in a year where he hit 28 home runs. Previously, he has never hit 20, but they juiced him like they do for most big names especially for their best cards. Jeter is the biggest name this year and hit 24 homers in 1999 so you know they are going to boost the pop to replicate his absolute peak.
Even if his best card is based solely on 1999, he’d only have like 80 power max. That number only decreases if they give him a card based on his career. Trea Turner getting boosted has nothing to do with him being a big name and everything to do with it being a finest card, which are all ridiculously boosted. Harper’s 2015 season was way better than his 2021 season, yet his finest is better than his 2015 MVP card.
They can boost his attributes however they like. They proved it with postseason cards, compared to legend postseason cards. They do it with All Star cards. If they can give Ty Cobb the power they did for his Prime card, they could absolutely give Jeter whatever power attributes they want.
Current year cards always get boosted more than cards based on previous seasons or careers. They gave Cobb like 90 power because his ISO is considered reasonably high for his era. It’s the same thing as them giving Cy Young a mid-high 90’s fastball because he was considered a hard thrower at the time. Jeter’s career .130 ISO certainly isn’t high for his era, and is actually lower than Cobb’s career .146 ISO. It’s only 10 points higher than Tony Gwynn’s .120 ISO too.
-
@killerpresence4 said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@dolenz_psn said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@lioned-33_xbl said in Jeter:
Looks like Jeter is the legend this year. Nintendo accidentally leaked the deluxe editions. Announcement On 2.2.22
Looking forward to Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Looking forward to non-Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Won’t be me. If SDS wants to give the worst defensive SS of all time inflated fielding attributes, they are welcome to.
Come on he’s not the worst. He certainly isn’t the best, but saying he was the worst is a gross exaggeration. I would say that he was average to slightly below average defensively.
Literally the worst defensive SS in history by a wide margin, statistically. But don’t worry, fully expect SDS to juice up his defense.
-
Like him or hate, he should be in this game... I love having as many legends as possible... Regardless of how you feel... It’s your Baseball Ultimate team, so you can use whoever you want.
-
@jcassaro44_mlbts said in Jeter:
Like him or hate, he should be in this game... I love having as many legends as possible... Regardless of how you feel... It’s your Baseball Ultimate team, so you can use whoever you want.
For sure. The more the merrier. Still hoping for Tim Raines.
-
Jeter is an awful choice won't be doing that Collection yuk
-
Just give Jeter a 99 Postseason card. The dude had over a seasons worth of games in the playoffs.
-
@sportpimpin_xbl said in Jeter:
Jeter is an awful choice won't be doing that Collection yuk
Yeah, having one of the most popular and well-known players in the last quarter century on the cover of your game is an awful choice.
-
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@killerpresence4 said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@dolenz_psn said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@lioned-33_xbl said in Jeter:
Looks like Jeter is the legend this year. Nintendo accidentally leaked the deluxe editions. Announcement On 2.2.22
Looking forward to Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Looking forward to non-Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Won’t be me. If SDS wants to give the worst defensive SS of all time inflated fielding attributes, they are welcome to.
Come on he’s not the worst. He certainly isn’t the best, but saying he was the worst is a gross exaggeration. I would say that he was average to slightly below average defensively.
Literally the worst defensive SS in history by a wide margin, statistically. But don’t worry, fully expect SDS to juice up his defense.
You’re basing this info off a single bulk stat that encompasses 20 years at one position. Jose Offerman was a far worse fielder than Jeter. The difference between him is the fact Offerman had a 9 year career and was moved to second and third base later because he was so awful.
-
The fact that he DIDN’T move, especially after 2003 when he was the second best SS ON HIS OWN TEAM pushes him lower. “Team Player” my a..!
-
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@sportpimpin_xbl said in Jeter:
Jeter is an awful choice won't be doing that Collection yuk
Yeah, having one of the most popular and well-known players in the last quarter century on the cover of your game is an awful choice.
Popular to who? He's trash imo maybe new Yorkers live him but I don't and don't know anyone that does! A media darling? yea sure if you live media I'm sure you love you some Jeter but arod Barry mcgwire any of those dudes would've been a better choice they'll have a spot on any team this joker wouldn't see my field of play w that 72 84 power split I'm Gucci
-
@sportpimpin_xbl said in Jeter:
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@sportpimpin_xbl said in Jeter:
Jeter is an awful choice won't be doing that Collection yuk
Yeah, having one of the most popular and well-known players in the last quarter century on the cover of your game is an awful choice.
Popular to who? He's trash imo maybe new Yorkers live him but I don't and don't know anyone that does! A media darling? yea sure if you live media I'm sure you love you some Jeter but arod Barry mcgwire any of those dudes would've been a better choice they'll have a spot on any team this joker wouldn't see my field of play w that 72 84 power split I'm Gucci
I wouldn't mind seeing some of those other guys either believe me, but with their images all being somewhat "compromised" it seems like a long shot. And it isn't like SDS had a choice between either Jeter/A-Rod/Bonds/Randy Johnson for this year and decided on Jeter. Some guys are available and some aren't for whatever reasons.
The bottomed line is SDS doesn't care if Jeter makes anyone's God squad they only care about the truckloads of copies they're going to sell with his face on the cover.
