Jeter
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@savefarris_psn said in Jeter:
@ericulous1_psn said in Jeter:
@savefarris_psn said in Jeter:
Can't wait to play with the 5th best shortstop in the AL in the 90s/00s.
Buuuut, in their best years.....absolutely. who else are you considering?
Oh yes, good call. For some reason I always think of him as a 2B but he definitely logged more games at SS I believe.
Also, you did say 90s which adds Ripken and Larkin to the mix for a chunk of their career.
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Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
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@snakeeyes23_psn said in Jeter:
Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
I could see Jeter getting something like a juiced up post season card. But I agree with most of the previous comments. A Jeter card would at best would have Alan Trammel like attributes offensively with like 75 defense.
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@jcassaro44_mlbts said in Jeter:
People that love Jeter will use him, people that hate him won’t (unless he’s op)... I just hope they add some lefty relievers and get Ty Cobb back.
Absolutely, everyone has the same lefty relievers. Ty Cobb was a fun card, Hornsby too. But I guess once their contract was up SDS couldn’t reach a deal. There will be new players, as for the LH relievers, who knows.
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Pretty amazing to see how many people despise Jeter. Yes, you can say he was a tad bit overrated but what do you guys expect? All he did was win, in the biggest market on earth. And not to mention he was pretty freakin good for a really long time. He’s gonna be a new legend, so he’s gonna be juiced….if you don’t like it, don’t use him
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@mjfc_363_psn said in Jeter:
@snakeeyes23_psn said in Jeter:
Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
I could see Jeter getting something like a juiced up post season card. But I agree with most of the previous comments. A Jeter card would at best would have Alan Trammel like attributes offensively with like 75 defense.
Maybe they give Jeter a program similar to the one for Jackie from MLB 20. I believe with that one you had to do a bunch of missions and moments with a bronze or silver Jackie to first unlock his gold card, then more of the same to get his low diamond and finally at the end of the reward path it would be a 99 overall.
I know Jeter isn't for everyone, but his best card will definitely be solid. He will have max contact/clutch and reverse power splits (100+ vs RH; 90+ vs LH) with 85+ fielding/speed that becomes diamond after a few parallel upgrades. Think that SDS will likely give him a Signature Series card for his 99, but I can see them deciding on a Postseason card instead.
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@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@dolenz_psn said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@lioned-33_xbl said in Jeter:
Looks like Jeter is the legend this year. Nintendo accidentally leaked the deluxe editions. Announcement On 2.2.22
Looking forward to Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Looking forward to non-Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Won’t be me. If SDS wants to give the worst defensive SS of all time inflated fielding attributes, they are welcome to.
Come on he’s not the worst. He certainly isn’t the best, but saying he was the worst is a gross exaggeration. I would say that he was average to slightly below average defensively.
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@killerpresence4 said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@dolenz_psn said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@lioned-33_xbl said in Jeter:
Looks like Jeter is the legend this year. Nintendo accidentally leaked the deluxe editions. Announcement On 2.2.22
Looking forward to Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Looking forward to non-Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Won’t be me. If SDS wants to give the worst defensive SS of all time inflated fielding attributes, they are welcome to.
Come on he’s not the worst. He certainly isn’t the best, but saying he was the worst is a gross exaggeration. I would say that he was average to slightly below average defensively.
He may not be the worst of all time, but he’s easily the worst of the modern era. His -162 DRS is over twice as bad as the next lowest, and his -66.1 UZR is by far the lowest as well.
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@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Jeter:
@snakeeyes23_psn said in Jeter:
Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
I could see Jeter getting something like a juiced up post season card. But I agree with most of the previous comments. A Jeter card would at best would have Alan Trammel like attributes offensively with like 75 defense.
Maybe they give Jeter a program similar to the one for Jackie from MLB 20. I believe with that one you had to do a bunch of missions and moments with a bronze or silver Jackie to first unlock his gold card, then more of the same to get his low diamond and finally at the end of the reward path it would be a 99 overall.
I know Jeter isn't for everyone, but his best card will definitely be solid. He will have max contact/clutch and reverse power splits (100+ vs RH; 90+ vs LH) with 85+ fielding/speed that becomes diamond after a few parallel upgrades. Think that SDS will likely give him a Signature Series card for his 99, but I can see them deciding on a Postseason card instead.
He isn’t going to have 100/90 power lmao
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@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@killerpresence4 said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@dolenz_psn said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@lioned-33_xbl said in Jeter:
Looks like Jeter is the legend this year. Nintendo accidentally leaked the deluxe editions. Announcement On 2.2.22
Looking forward to Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Looking forward to non-Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Won’t be me. If SDS wants to give the worst defensive SS of all time inflated fielding attributes, they are welcome to.
Come on he’s not the worst. He certainly isn’t the best, but saying he was the worst is a gross exaggeration. I would say that he was average to slightly below average defensively.
He may not be the worst of all time, but he’s easily the worst of the modern era. His -162 DRS is over twice as bad as the next lowest, and his -66.1 UZR is by far the lowest as well.
Yes I get it, but those numbers are a culmination of a 20+ year career. There are very few SS out there that have had that long of a career. SS is one of the most demanding positions on the field and thus ends up with shorter careers do to the toll it takes on their bodies. I’m just saying that he is not as bad as the one guy made him out to be. Sometimes we get too bogged down in advanced metrics and fail to take into account the whole athlete. We all know he didn’t have the greatest range but he was a solid routine play defender. And truthfully, he didn’t need to be greatest defender on those Yankees teams. All those teams needed from him was to make the routine plays. His bat was what took him to HOF level. And no I’m certainly not a Jeter fanboy, I was not a big fan of his during his playing days, I’m just merely pointing out the exaggeration of the statement that was made.
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@killerpresence4 said in Jeter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@killerpresence4 said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@dolenz_psn said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@lioned-33_xbl said in Jeter:
Looks like Jeter is the legend this year. Nintendo accidentally leaked the deluxe editions. Announcement On 2.2.22
Looking forward to Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Looking forward to non-Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Won’t be me. If SDS wants to give the worst defensive SS of all time inflated fielding attributes, they are welcome to.
Come on he’s not the worst. He certainly isn’t the best, but saying he was the worst is a gross exaggeration. I would say that he was average to slightly below average defensively.
He may not be the worst of all time, but he’s easily the worst of the modern era. His -162 DRS is over twice as bad as the next lowest, and his -66.1 UZR is by far the lowest as well.
Yes I get it, but those numbers are a culmination of a 20+ year career. There are very few SS out there that have had that long of a career. SS is one of the most demanding positions on the field and thus ends up with shorter careers do to the toll it takes on their bodies. I’m just saying that he is not as bad as the one guy made him out to be. Sometimes we get too bogged down in advanced metrics and fail to take into account the whole athlete. We all know he didn’t have the greatest range but he was a solid routine play defender. And truthfully, he didn’t need to be greatest defender on those Yankees teams. All those teams needed from him was to make the routine plays. His bat was what took him to HOF level. And no I’m certainly not a Jeter fanboy, I was not a big fan of his during his playing days, I’m just merely pointing out the exaggeration of the statement that was made.
Having the worst numbers makes you the worst. Being bad for a long time doesn’t make them look any better.
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@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@killerpresence4 said in Jeter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@killerpresence4 said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@dolenz_psn said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@lioned-33_xbl said in Jeter:
Looks like Jeter is the legend this year. Nintendo accidentally leaked the deluxe editions. Announcement On 2.2.22
Looking forward to Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Looking forward to non-Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Won’t be me. If SDS wants to give the worst defensive SS of all time inflated fielding attributes, they are welcome to.
Come on he’s not the worst. He certainly isn’t the best, but saying he was the worst is a gross exaggeration. I would say that he was average to slightly below average defensively.
He may not be the worst of all time, but he’s easily the worst of the modern era. His -162 DRS is over twice as bad as the next lowest, and his -66.1 UZR is by far the lowest as well.
Yes I get it, but those numbers are a culmination of a 20+ year career. There are very few SS out there that have had that long of a career. SS is one of the most demanding positions on the field and thus ends up with shorter careers do to the toll it takes on their bodies. I’m just saying that he is not as bad as the one guy made him out to be. Sometimes we get too bogged down in advanced metrics and fail to take into account the whole athlete. We all know he didn’t have the greatest range but he was a solid routine play defender. And truthfully, he didn’t need to be greatest defender on those Yankees teams. All those teams needed from him was to make the routine plays. His bat was what took him to HOF level. And no I’m certainly not a Jeter fanboy, I was not a big fan of his during his playing days, I’m just merely pointing out the exaggeration of the statement that was made.
Having the worst numbers makes you the worst. Being bad for a long time doesn’t make them look any better.
Well he did win five gold gloves so obviously not everyone thought he was terrible. And like I said before, his numbers are a culmination of 20 years playing that position not 8-10 years that most SS play before their bodies break down or a positional move. Most people don’t realize that Manny Machado began his career as a SS. And based on his advanced metrics he was a pretty bad SS now he’s considered one of the best defensive 3rd baseman in baseball. Everyone looks at Tatis as the future of that position but he’s hasn’t been very good either. Tatis’ issue isn’t getting to the ball it’s knowing where the ball is going to go when he throws it. Not everyone can be Andrelton Simmons who is about as good as it get in this day and age where he is a great routine play SS and has otherworldly range and accuracy.
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@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Jeter:
@snakeeyes23_psn said in Jeter:
Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
I could see Jeter getting something like a juiced up post season card. But I agree with most of the previous comments. A Jeter card would at best would have Alan Trammel like attributes offensively with like 75 defense.
Maybe they give Jeter a program similar to the one for Jackie from MLB 20. I believe with that one you had to do a bunch of missions and moments with a bronze or silver Jackie to first unlock his gold card, then more of the same to get his low diamond and finally at the end of the reward path it would be a 99 overall.
I know Jeter isn't for everyone, but his best card will definitely be solid. He will have max contact/clutch and reverse power splits (100+ vs RH; 90+ vs LH) with 85+ fielding/speed that becomes diamond after a few parallel upgrades. Think that SDS will likely give him a Signature Series card for his 99, but I can see them deciding on a Postseason card instead.
I think his best card may be like 42 collection Jackie Robinson, great contact but not much power
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@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Jeter:
@snakeeyes23_psn said in Jeter:
Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
I could see Jeter getting something like a juiced up post season card. But I agree with most of the previous comments. A Jeter card would at best would have Alan Trammel like attributes offensively with like 75 defense.
Maybe they give Jeter a program similar to the one for Jackie from MLB 20. I believe with that one you had to do a bunch of missions and moments with a bronze or silver Jackie to first unlock his gold card, then more of the same to get his low diamond and finally at the end of the reward path it would be a 99 overall.
I know Jeter isn't for everyone, but his best card will definitely be solid. He will have max contact/clutch and reverse power splits (100+ vs RH; 90+ vs LH) with 85+ fielding/speed that becomes diamond after a few parallel upgrades. Think that SDS will likely give him a Signature Series card for his 99, but I can see them deciding on a Postseason card instead.
He isn’t going to have 100/90 power lmao
They just gave Trea Turner 102/121 power on his Finest card in a year where he hit 28 home runs. Previously, he has never hit 20, but they juiced him like they do for most big names especially for their best cards. Jeter is the biggest name this year and hit 24 homers in 1999 so you know they are going to boost the pop to replicate his absolute peak.
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@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@killerpresence4 said in Jeter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@killerpresence4 said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@dolenz_psn said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@lioned-33_xbl said in Jeter:
Looks like Jeter is the legend this year. Nintendo accidentally leaked the deluxe editions. Announcement On 2.2.22
Looking forward to Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Looking forward to non-Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Won’t be me. If SDS wants to give the worst defensive SS of all time inflated fielding attributes, they are welcome to.
Come on he’s not the worst. He certainly isn’t the best, but saying he was the worst is a gross exaggeration. I would say that he was average to slightly below average defensively.
He may not be the worst of all time, but he’s easily the worst of the modern era. His -162 DRS is over twice as bad as the next lowest, and his -66.1 UZR is by far the lowest as well.
Yes I get it, but those numbers are a culmination of a 20+ year career. There are very few SS out there that have had that long of a career. SS is one of the most demanding positions on the field and thus ends up with shorter careers do to the toll it takes on their bodies. I’m just saying that he is not as bad as the one guy made him out to be. Sometimes we get too bogged down in advanced metrics and fail to take into account the whole athlete. We all know he didn’t have the greatest range but he was a solid routine play defender. And truthfully, he didn’t need to be greatest defender on those Yankees teams. All those teams needed from him was to make the routine plays. His bat was what took him to HOF level. And no I’m certainly not a Jeter fanboy, I was not a big fan of his during his playing days, I’m just merely pointing out the exaggeration of the statement that was made.
Having the worst numbers makes you the worst. Being bad for a long time doesn’t make them look any better.
I think was was being said here is you also can’t just go by TOTALS to make your point, per season average would be a better comp.
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@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@dolenz_psn said in Jeter:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in Jeter:
@lioned-33_xbl said in Jeter:
Looks like Jeter is the legend this year. Nintendo accidentally leaked the deluxe editions. Announcement On 2.2.22
Looking forward to Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Looking forward to non-Yankee fans complaining about his attributes.
Won’t be me. If SDS wants to give the worst defensive SS of all time inflated fielding attributes, they are welcome to.
Fernando Tatis Jr. says I see (hear) you!
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@ericulous1_psn said in Jeter:
@savefarris_psn said in Jeter:
@ericulous1_psn said in Jeter:
@savefarris_psn said in Jeter:
Can't wait to play with the 5th best shortstop in the AL in the 90s/00s.
Also, you did say 90s which adds Ripken and Larkin to the mix for a chunk of their career.
Larkin: not in the AL
Ripken: By the time Jeter became DEREK JETER, Ripken had already made the move to 3B. Although even as a 3B, he was STILL a better SS than Jetes. -
I suppose Jeter's 99 card can be a Prime, mitigating against the bad defense argument.
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@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Jeter:
@snakeeyes23_psn said in Jeter:
Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
I could see Jeter getting something like a juiced up post season card. But I agree with most of the previous comments. A Jeter card would at best would have Alan Trammel like attributes offensively with like 75 defense.
Maybe they give Jeter a program similar to the one for Jackie from MLB 20. I believe with that one you had to do a bunch of missions and moments with a bronze or silver Jackie to first unlock his gold card, then more of the same to get his low diamond and finally at the end of the reward path it would be a 99 overall.
I know Jeter isn't for everyone, but his best card will definitely be solid. He will have max contact/clutch and reverse power splits (100+ vs RH; 90+ vs LH) with 85+ fielding/speed that becomes diamond after a few parallel upgrades. Think that SDS will likely give him a Signature Series card for his 99, but I can see them deciding on a Postseason card instead.
He isn’t going to have 100/90 power lmao
They just gave Trea Turner 102/121 power on his Finest card in a year where he hit 28 home runs. Previously, he has never hit 20, but they juiced him like they do for most big names especially for their best cards. Jeter is the biggest name this year and hit 24 homers in 1999 so you know they are going to boost the pop to replicate his absolute peak.
Even if his best card is based solely on 1999, he’d only have like 80 power max. That number only decreases if they give him a card based on his career. Trea Turner getting boosted has nothing to do with him being a big name and everything to do with it being a finest card, which are all ridiculously boosted. Harper’s 2015 season was way better than his 2021 season, yet his finest is better than his 2015 MVP card.
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@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Jeter:
@sakattack87_psn said in Jeter:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Jeter:
@snakeeyes23_psn said in Jeter:
Jeter should have a high clutch attribute and his quirk as a leader should be making the entire lineup gain an extra level of attributes.
I could see Jeter getting something like a juiced up post season card. But I agree with most of the previous comments. A Jeter card would at best would have Alan Trammel like attributes offensively with like 75 defense.
Maybe they give Jeter a program similar to the one for Jackie from MLB 20. I believe with that one you had to do a bunch of missions and moments with a bronze or silver Jackie to first unlock his gold card, then more of the same to get his low diamond and finally at the end of the reward path it would be a 99 overall.
I know Jeter isn't for everyone, but his best card will definitely be solid. He will have max contact/clutch and reverse power splits (100+ vs RH; 90+ vs LH) with 85+ fielding/speed that becomes diamond after a few parallel upgrades. Think that SDS will likely give him a Signature Series card for his 99, but I can see them deciding on a Postseason card instead.
He isn’t going to have 100/90 power lmao
They just gave Trea Turner 102/121 power on his Finest card in a year where he hit 28 home runs. Previously, he has never hit 20, but they juiced him like they do for most big names especially for their best cards. Jeter is the biggest name this year and hit 24 homers in 1999 so you know they are going to boost the pop to replicate his absolute peak.
Even if his best card is based solely on 1999, he’d only have like 80 power max. That number only decreases if they give him a card based on his career. Trea Turner getting boosted has nothing to do with him being a big name and everything to do with it being a finest card, which are all ridiculously boosted. Harper’s 2015 season was way better than his 2021 season, yet his finest is better than his 2015 MVP card.
They can boost his attributes however they like. They proved it with postseason cards, compared to legend postseason cards. They do it with All Star cards. If they can give Ty Cobb the power they did for his Prime card, they could absolutely give Jeter whatever power attributes they want.
