1.09 Patch Discussion
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Just had a new one I hadn’t had before @Collin_SDS
I was charging in for a liner with my RFer, a ball I usually make the catch on. At the last minute (while I’m still running in) my fielder suddenly turns his back to the ball and plays the ball on a hop, fielding it backhanded.
Sorry I don’t have a clip to show.
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I definitely feel outfield defense has been better since that patch. Still a few problems but the blatant drops when im set under the ball are gone and i feel im able to adjust more when im under the ball to make sure i dont drop it.
I still find alot of problems on hard hit or line drives to out field where my fielder runs by without attempting at the ball.
Also infielders are just to relaxed in general. Everything is fielded and thrown like david ortiz is going up the line even tho its actually ricky henderson or another really really fast guy and they are safe even tho it was a routine chopper to my ss. Especially when trying to field bunts my players seek so slow to react and hustle. Also had a few times now in last couple days when my ss wouldnt even attempted at a weak bouncer and it skips into the outfield when should super routine play.
Overall thank u sds for listening to us and hopefully next patch continues to improve gameplay like this one has
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@maskedgrappler said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@Driller94_ said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
This game could be so great, still have faith in sds but m obviously hanging on by a thread here. Not trying to get suspended for being overly critical, am rooting for sds it's just getting harder to maintain the faith rt now. Corona has everything so messed up.
I agree with you, it's frustrating. The hitting felt great the first week. Now I'm very late on fastballs on all star even if I swing as the ball leaves the pitchers hand. I've been playing since 17 and this is the first year it's ever felt hopeless.
It’s pointless even trying in my opinion. Last year I was giving Pitching_Rebel close games in RS (he just sneaked a walkoff 3-2 bottom 9th). This year is just unbelievable. The game has to be broken in some way for me because this is just........ wow. Nothing has changed for me except moving to ‘20. No new monitor, no upgrade to PS4 Pro, no new internet provider, nothing. Yet the game is totally unplayable. You could come out and say “Hey comeback, I’m just gonna throw you 4 seamers down the pipe, get some batting practice in.” I would strike out 20+ times in a nine inning game. It’s impossible to make contact, I have seen clips of the ball going straight through the bat as if it’s not even there. Ghost ball. Why they can’t see this if they have “backend data” to analyse I have no idea, but I’ve now gone past the stage of being angry about it. I’ve reached the stage of acceptance and sadness and obviously I need to find a new game to spend the majority of my time with. I can’t enjoy the MLB the Show experience any more. That’s all there is to it.
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@ComebackLogic said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@maskedgrappler said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@Driller94_ said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
This game could be so great, still have faith in sds but m obviously hanging on by a thread here. Not trying to get suspended for being overly critical, am rooting for sds it's just getting harder to maintain the faith rt now. Corona has everything so messed up.
I agree with you, it's frustrating. The hitting felt great the first week. Now I'm very late on fastballs on all star even if I swing as the ball leaves the pitchers hand. I've been playing since 17 and this is the first year it's ever felt hopeless.
It’s pointless even trying in my opinion. Last year I was giving Pitching_Rebel close games in RS (he just sneaked a walkoff 3-2 bottom 9th). This year is just unbelievable. The game has to be broken in some way for me because this is just........ wow. Nothing has changed for me except moving to ‘20. No new monitor, no upgrade to PS4 Pro, no new internet provider, nothing. Yet the game is totally unplayable. You could come out and say “Hey comeback, I’m just gonna throw you 4 seamers down the pipe, get some batting practice in.” I would strike out 20+ times in a nine inning game. It’s impossible to make contact, I have seen clips of the ball going straight through the bat as if it’s not even there. Ghost ball. Why they can’t see this if they have “backend data” to analyse I have no idea, but I’ve now gone past the stage of being angry about it. I’ve reached the stage of acceptance and sadness and obviously I need to find a new game to spend the majority of my time with. I can’t enjoy the MLB the Show experience any more. That’s all there is to it.
Yep, I'm with you. This is usually the only game I play from March to November, but I've just about given up. I've got other games to play and things to do. I'll still pick away at it because it's already paid for, but I doubt I'll be back next year.
Not angry really, but if sds doesnt want us playing their game I'm not going to keep beating my head against a wall.
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@boogiewithstu2 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@Pringle_Nation said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
Here is my post patch experience so far.
Disclaimer: ALL these clips were taken post patch in the past couple of days!
Nice vid, but the music bro, woulda been better just to leave that part out ... But the video still made a good point, fielding is straight broken in this game ...
I added music because some of the clips I was in party chat and cursing extemely loud, figured I'd try and cover that up some.
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@Driller94_ said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@boogiewithstu2 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@Driller94_ said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
The game was perfect early release weekend, is it possible to unpatch it back to square 1 and start over fixing only minor bugs/glitches??? Everything seems way to random now. It seemed more user input relative at launch and the hitting engine/ physics were great. The game was so much fun! Am keeping the faith, difficult situation with everything else going on. Good luck SDS! My suggestion would be to nurf the individual pitch confidence effect or sensitivity, also reduce hanging meatballs on good timed releases and go back to day 1 Hitting. Basically in slider terms +1 user timing (hitting) and +1 on both pitcher accuracy options. -1 pitch speed differential(either fb's down one or OS up 1. Nothin but love, i know it's not that easy, peace
Game wasn’t perfect on release because fielding was broken, and still is ...
Compared to this mess 18 was perfect. i hardly experienced any fielding issues until the patches stated...After 6 days of people pounding gold and silver pitchers on all-star they panicked and ruined hitting, i feel almost like we are being cheese trolled by sds with how frustrating this game is... after we have bought their lives for 10 years. At least they could not cheap out with the server capacity, that might help a lot too!
If the game still played like it did early release, i would drop 500$ tomorrow. Not getting anymore $ from me until 2022 if ever. The "server maint" last night made the game even worse in my experience today. Hate being negative, just wish i hadn't played until after the first few patches because i know how good it almost was and that's what makes it hard to stomach.
Whoever the dev is that built the original hitting for 20 should be running the show at sds. It was a masterpiece. Whoever made the call to change hitting should probably be looking for a new job by now smh. If i was the hitting dev i'd quit, what a waste!!!!
Maniac
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Not even worth posting SDS doesn't care
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So I played a lot of games today (4.27) probably ten event games and 2 full ranked games. I did not have one fielding glitch, non did I see any of my opponents make a coding forced error. I had and saw errors immediately after the patch and I know nothing else was done but today was smooth, and fun. I hope the game continues to play this good! Encouraging
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@Collin_SDS said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
Going to post this here. Let's try to keep all discussion about 1.09 in this thread.
Okay, but both of these "glaring gameplay fielding issues" are still happening regularly. The patch went up less than a week ago and I can think of at least a dozen instances since then where fielders have worn a fly ball on their face because of no catch animation or ran straight over the ball. This has cost me multiple games over multiple modes and needs to be addressed immediately.
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I just played a game where 2 routine fly balls cost me 6 runs.
First was Soto who had a fly ball at the wall he was camped under it but never put his glove up. That extended the inning and my opponent was able to score 3.
Im the 8th with bases loaded I get my opponent to hit a can of corn to Reggie in rf. Reggie camps under the ball and the ball hits him in the face and rolls to the wall clearing the bases.
I was able to keep my composure and end up winning but this isn’t right. I shouldn’t be freaking out on a routine out. Hitting now takes focus and skill yes good/ok is annoying but it’s clear fielding is in such a bad state right now it makes me not want to play RS which is my favorite mode.
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@STI1489 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
I just played a game where 2 routine fly balls cost me 6 runs.
First was Soto who had a fly ball at the wall he was camped under it but never put his glove up. That extended the inning and my opponent was able to score 3.
Im the 8th with bases loaded I get my opponent to hit a can of corn to Reggie in rf. Reggie camps under the ball and the ball hits him in the face and rolls to the wall clearing the bases.
I was able to keep my composure and end up winning but this isn’t right. I shouldn’t be freaking out on a routine out. Hitting now takes focus and skill yes good/ok is annoying but it’s clear fielding is in such a bad state right now it makes me not want to play RS which is my favorite mode.
They gotta get on that and fix it asap ... Pro players make routine play's in there sleep, and it should be the same in a sim video game of baseball ....
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Haven’t played in like two weeks. Played a game today and hitting is still random (IE good-okay when right on it, good-good on a hanger just is a soft fly ball, very early slightly rolled is a hit back up the middle, ect.) when’s patch 1.10 when u fix the hitting.
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I'm a 74 year old guy that has been playing for around 10 years. I play on all-star, all-star. I only play online head to head. I can't use any sliders in the settings and that is fine. The only problems I have with the game is the hitting. I seems that I'm late on EVERY fastball they throw. FIX the [censored] hitting on A-S and below please. You can speed the pitching up for the higher levels but give the average player a chance. It goes without saying the fielding needs to be fixed.
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Infield d really needs some help. Too many easy balls being booted or not even attempted at as they bounce by my fielder. Also players need more urgency throwing and making plays when fast runners are on/ at the plate
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We know the fielding and base running are broken, but can we get something done about the horrible pitching? Maybe hire a couple competent devs to fix these issues and the check swing cheesers? Maybe test your game before putting it out broken every year as well?
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@Quinn2161 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
Infield d really needs some help. Too many easy balls being booted or not even attempted at as they bounce by my fielder. Also players need more urgency throwing and making plays when fast runners are on/ at the plate
Urgency in general would help. Also, I think the animations at second base where the fielder insists on taking the ball to the bag himself OR makes a lollipop toss are both a problem.
There needs to be consistency between fielding speed and base running. How come Marte can not beat out a slow roller to third, but Merrifield can’t properly start a double play?
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@T-Rox_09 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@Driller94_ said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@boogiewithstu2 said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
@Driller94_ said in 1.09 Patch Discussion:
The game was perfect early release weekend, is it possible to unpatch it back to square 1 and start over fixing only minor bugs/glitches??? Everything seems way to random now. It seemed more user input relative at launch and the hitting engine/ physics were great. The game was so much fun! Am keeping the faith, difficult situation with everything else going on. Good luck SDS! My suggestion would be to nurf the individual pitch confidence effect or sensitivity, also reduce hanging meatballs on good timed releases and go back to day 1 Hitting. Basically in slider terms +1 user timing (hitting) and +1 on both pitcher accuracy options. -1 pitch speed differential(either fb's down one or OS up 1. Nothin but love, i know it's not that easy, peace
Game wasn’t perfect on release because fielding was broken, and still is ...
Compared to this mess 18 was perfect. i hardly experienced any fielding issues until the patches stated...After 6 days of people pounding gold and silver pitchers on all-star they panicked and ruined hitting, i feel almost like we are being cheese trolled by sds with how frustrating this game is... after we have bought their lives for 10 years. At least they could not cheap out with the server capacity, that might help a lot too!
If the game still played like it did early release, i would drop 500$ tomorrow. Not getting anymore $ from me until 2022 if ever. The "server maint" last night made the game even worse in my experience today. Hate being negative, just wish i hadn't played until after the first few patches because i know how good it almost was and that's what makes it hard to stomach.
Whoever the dev is that built the original hitting for 20 should be running the show at sds. It was a masterpiece. Whoever made the call to change hitting should probably be looking for a new job by now smh. If i was the hitting dev i'd quit, what a waste!!!!
Maniac
Yep. This game will do it to you rt now
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So I do feel that fielding has been a bit better overall since the patch. There still some issues like the video below. First clip was me, second clip was an opponent.
@Victor_SDS
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Or... revert back. ( Pre patch )
Offence / hitting is also trash after the update.
Batting average from 330 + to 317 in a very few GM's.
Slugging from over 600 is in a plummet also.
I've checked with numerous people and the same is occurring with their hitting stats.
Heck the same type players i mercy ruled
Consistently are now square mashing hm runs and winning ( not base- ball ) but striking out 19 or 20 times too.
Pre patch one gm
Now ? A totally different gm.
The worst since release by far.
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So that happened just now. Game was for WS and that was a homerun by potm didi with a 9 pci placement.
How does this happen maybe I didn’t play/watch enough baseball to comprehend this madness?