Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?
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Very Overrated defensively, but a great clutch player and great captain. If you look at highlight films of his defense, you’d think he was fantastic all the way around. I watched enough daily Yankee games to know that it just isn’t so. He was average defensively. Belongs in the HOF certainly. Not a fan of his post-playing days. (Frankly not a fan of Mattingly now either)
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@rockerdoctor_mlbts said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
Very Overrated defensively, but a great clutch player and great captain. If you look at highlight films of his defense, you’d think he was fantastic all the way around. I watched enough daily Yankee games to know that it just isn’t so. He was average defensively. Belongs in the HOF certainly. Not a fan of his post-playing days. (Frankly not a fan of Mattingly now either)
Not average defensively. Not even below average. Literally the worst defensive shortstop statistically. Dude should have been playing 2B or LF.
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@savefarris_psn said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@jonblaze2424_mlbts said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
I dont understand takes like this. Jeter is a top 10 shortstop of all time, and that's just a given. ..but he absolutely is top 10 and you can argue top 5 pretty easily.
At best, he was the 2nd best shortstop on his own team.
To Alex Rodriguez??? Another guy who can very easily be considered top 5 of all time? That's like trying to knock DJ because he shared the same infield with Cal Ripken. Still doesn't counter any of my pro-Jeter arguments.
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Is Jeter the most overrated player of all time? I do not think so. Is he overrated yes I think so, Is he a HOF yes. In the since of the Media, Writers and playing for the Yankees yes he would be at the top of the list of overrated All Time.
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@tylerslikewhoa_xbl said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@killerpresence4 said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
Yeah, a guy who has 3000 career hits is the most “overrated” baseball player ever just like the OP is the most unintelligent individual in the history of the world. You see what did there?!?! Lol at morons who use absolutes as a way to justify their argument. You deserve to be mocked and ridiculed for this kind of nonsense. Now if you really want to talk about overrated players go research Brien Taylor. Have a good day kid
Relax Karen. Just because he is grossly overrated that doesn't make him a bad player. No way should he be a first ballot hall of famer but in DD terms I could see him getting an 86 as his top card.
If someone who is 6th all time in hits, 11th in runs scored, a 5 time world series champion and the face of the greatest franchise in the history of sports for 20 years isn't a first ballot hall of famer.....I would love to hear what is in your eyes.
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Derek Jeter is the greatest of all time. Here is why:
Jessica Biel
Jessica Alba
Gabrielle Union
Adriana Lima
Scarlett Johanssen
Vida GuerraI could on, but I’ll stop there. No one in the history of the game has been so successful. Anyone who doesn’t recognize his greatness is just hating. Plain and simple.
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@jonblaze2424_mlbts said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@tylerslikewhoa_xbl said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@killerpresence4 said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
Yeah, a guy who has 3000 career hits is the most “overrated” baseball player ever just like the OP is the most unintelligent individual in the history of the world. You see what did there?!?! Lol at morons who use absolutes as a way to justify their argument. You deserve to be mocked and ridiculed for this kind of nonsense. Now if you really want to talk about overrated players go research Brien Taylor. Have a good day kid
Relax Karen. Just because he is grossly overrated that doesn't make him a bad player. No way should he be a first ballot hall of famer but in DD terms I could see him getting an 86 as his top card.
If someone who is 6th all time in hits, 11th in runs scored, a 5 time world series champion and the face of the greatest franchise in the history of sports for 20 years isn't a first ballot hall of famer.....I would love to hear what is in your eyes.
Bonnie Tyler is like whoa
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@jonblaze2424_mlbts said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
I dont understand takes like this. Jeter is a top 10 shortstop of all time, and that's just a given. Never once in my life heard that he is "the best of all time"....but he absolutely is top 10 and you can argue top 5 pretty easily. Add in the fact he was the face of a dynasty in the biggest market in the world adds to it, and he was about as professional as they came.
Not sure how he can be "overrated"
I take your challenge!
10 Better SS's:- Cal Ripken
- Ozzie Smith
- Honus Wagner
- Alex Rodriguez
- Ernie Banks
- Corey Seager
- Trevor Story
- Fernando Tatis Jr. (will be)
- Barry Larkin
- Robin Yount
Honorable Mention: Trammel, Rollins
Dude won a lot of rings, however.
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@misfits_138_1_psn said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@jonblaze2424_mlbts said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
I dont understand takes like this. Jeter is a top 10 shortstop of all time, and that's just a given. Never once in my life heard that he is "the best of all time"....but he absolutely is top 10 and you can argue top 5 pretty easily. Add in the fact he was the face of a dynasty in the biggest market in the world adds to it, and he was about as professional as they came.
Not sure how he can be "overrated"
I take your challenge!
10 Better SS's:- Cal Ripken
- Ozzie Smith
- Honus Wagner
- Alex Rodriguez
- Ernie Banks
- Corey Seager
- Trevor Story
- Fernando Tatis Jr. (will be)
- Barry Larkin
- Robin Yount
Honorable Mention: Trammel, Rollins
Dude won a lot of rings, however.
I'm not the biggest Jeter guy by any means but having Ozzie Smith, Seager, Story, and Tatis on this list is asinine
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@jonblaze2424_mlbts said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@tylerslikewhoa_xbl said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@killerpresence4 said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
Yeah, a guy who has 3000 career hits is the most “overrated” baseball player ever just like the OP is the most unintelligent individual in the history of the world. You see what did there?!?! Lol at morons who use absolutes as a way to justify their argument. You deserve to be mocked and ridiculed for this kind of nonsense. Now if you really want to talk about overrated players go research Brien Taylor. Have a good day kid
Relax Karen. Just because he is grossly overrated that doesn't make him a bad player. No way should he be a first ballot hall of famer but in DD terms I could see him getting an 86 as his top card.
If someone who is 6th all time in hits, 11th in runs scored, a 5 time world series champion and the face of the greatest franchise in the history of sports for 20 years isn't a first ballot hall of famer.....I would love to hear what is in your eyes.
Yes. The worst defensive shortstop in MLB history will absolutely be a first ballot hall of famer…because he is absolutely overrated.
Still a great player. Still deserving of the hall. But still overrated quite a bit by many people, as we’ve seen in this thread.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@misfits_138_1_psn said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@jonblaze2424_mlbts said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
I dont understand takes like this. Jeter is a top 10 shortstop of all time, and that's just a given. Never once in my life heard that he is "the best of all time"....but he absolutely is top 10 and you can argue top 5 pretty easily. Add in the fact he was the face of a dynasty in the biggest market in the world adds to it, and he was about as professional as they came.
Not sure how he can be "overrated"
I take your challenge!
10 Better SS's:- Cal Ripken
- Ozzie Smith
- Honus Wagner
- Alex Rodriguez
- Ernie Banks
- Corey Seager
- Trevor Story
- Fernando Tatis Jr. (will be)
- Barry Larkin
- Robin Yount
Honorable Mention: Trammel, Rollins
Dude won a lot of rings, however.
I'm not the biggest Jeter guy by any means but having Ozzie Smith, Seager, Story, and Tatis on this list is asinine
I’d take Ozzie on my team over Jeter any time.
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Not THE MOST OVERRATED PLAYER OF ALL TIME.
That award is reserved for Jack Morris.
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@jonblaze2424_mlbts said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@pscrabro_psn said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@kovz88_psn said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
If you wanna say his defense is overrated I can definitely get behind that but as an overall player? No. I don't think you can call anyone with a career .310 batting average overrated.
There's a lot of shortstops that had a career avg. of .300+ though. Nobody is saying he was not top 50, but definitely not top 5. His defense was average at best and wasn't a great hitter, just a good hitter. Nomar had better offensive numbers and was a lot better defensively, but nobody is saying he was great.
Amazing how you can confidently say the person with the 6th most hits of all time wasnt a "great" hitter. And lets forget about his ability to score runs and all of the extra base hits too. Not expecting much from a Sox fan though.
Also, Nomar had 7 productive seasons at the plate and eclipsed 200 hits ONCE in his career. He had some solid years but his numbers are far less impressive than people think.
He played 30% less in his career than Jeter.... so tough to compare stats like hits. Nomar was a better hitter than Jeter when he was healthy. There is no doubt about that. Bogaerts right now has more hits, HR, RBI than Trout has had in the last 3 years.... does that make Bogaerts better? No... because he's played in a lot more games through those 3 years. Compare Nomar and Jeter in B.A., war, obp. ...Nomar was better power and a avg.
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I love the captain argument… in baseball
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@jonblaze2424_mlbts said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@tylerslikewhoa_xbl said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@jonblaze2424_mlbts said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
I dont understand takes like this. Jeter is a top 10 shortstop of all time, and that's just a given. Never once in my life heard that he is "the best of all time"....but he absolutely is top 10 and you can argue top 5 pretty easily. Add in the fact he was the face of a dynasty in the biggest market in the world adds to it, and he was about as professional as they came.
Not sure how he can be "overrated"
Watch the video and if you can still call him top I will be shocked. Just because he is popular doesn't mean he is great
I'm not watching any videos. I know all about how the defensive metrics are suspect, but numbers don't lie. The career hits, 200 hit seasons, 30+ double seasons, .310 career average, rings, postseason clutch....you're just trolling at this point if you are putting him outside the top 10.
Let me ask you a question, does this mean Ozzie Smith is overrated because he couldn't hit the ball out of the infield?
Well said and I 100% agree! Just because he doesn't hit 480 ft. hrs and do bat flips doesn't mean he's over rated. Also when it comes to intangibles (which no one talks about) he is king!
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Offensively, no. Defensively, yes. He also played for the largest market in terms of sports, so he had that going for him.
If he accrued the same offensive numbers in say, Detroit, he'd still be in the HOF just without five rings to show for it. -
@daddysr-29_psn said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
Offensively, no. Defensively, yes. He also played for the largest market in terms of sports, so he had that going for him.
If he accrued the same offensive numbers in say, Detroit, he'd still be in the HOF just without five rings to show for it.And if he played in Detroit, probably not 1st ballot.
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@nflman2033_mlbts said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@daddysr-29_psn said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
Offensively, no. Defensively, yes. He also played for the largest market in terms of sports, so he had that going for him.
If he accrued the same offensive numbers in say, Detroit, he'd still be in the HOF just without five rings to show for it.And if he played in Detroit, probably not 1st ballot.
He might have still been first Ballot. 3000 hits basically guarantees first ballot if you didn't use steroids or gamble. He would be Paul Molitor without the rings more or less
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@jonblaze2424_mlbts said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
@tylerslikewhoa_xbl said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
a 5 time world series champion and the face of the greatest franchise in the history of sports for 20 years isn't a first ballot hall of famer.....I would love to hear what is in your eyes.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever?:
At one time he was the most overrated player, but he has found his way into what I like to call the Bryce Harper Paradox. He has been called overrated so many times that he is underrated now
Bryce Harper is a 2x MVP... and he's not even 30 years old yet... WTF you talking about? lol
Bonds, DiMaggio, Mantle, Musial are the only other players to win 2 MVPs before age 29.
