TL/DR: Like this post to vote for an increase of Stan Musial’s speed attribute

Here is my case:

Ok, so a few weeks ago I posted that Stan Musial was done dirty with his 47 speed. I mentioned that he was tied for 19th on the all-time triples list, and only one player ahead of him was even born in the 20th century. The guys ahead of him played in ballparks that didn’t even have outfield fences. Lol

Speaking of ballparks, some argued that it was the bigger ballparks that Musial played in that inflated his triples. So, I decided to compare his numbers with other cards in the game who’s careers overlapped with Musial’s. This is what I found:

First, let’s start with Stan the Man himself.

He hit 177 triples in his career. He also stole 78 bases, with a 52% stolen base success rate. He has 47 speed in this game.

Jackie Robinson and Pee Wee Reese had far fewer triples than Musial, but stole way more bases at a way higher success rate. I will not argue that Musial should be as fast as they are. But....

Duke Snider hit 85 triples, and stole 99 bases at a 57% success rate. He has 69 speed, making him WAY faster than Musial. That isn’t right.

Monte Irvin only hit 31 triples. Now, he did steal bases successfully at a 75% rate, but he only stole 28 bases in his entire career. That means his skipper rarely sent him. He was probably pretty slow. In this game? 66 speed, almost 20 points higher than Musial. That isn’t right.

Ted Williams hit just 71 triples; more than 100 FEWER than Musial. He also stole fewer bases (71), at a slightly higher success rate (58%). He is faster than Musial in this game with 56 speed.

Minnie Minoso hit 83 triples. He did steal 205 bases, but his success rate was only 61%. That’s good, but is it 87 speed good?

When you compare Minoso with Al Kaline, though, you’re left with more questions than answers. Kaline hit nearly as many triples (75), and stole 137 bases AT A 67% SUCCESS RATE! That’s not too shabby. Yet Kaline has just 62 speed.

Larry Doby hit just 52 triples and stole just 47 bases at 56%. He has 64 speed and is faster than Musial. That isn’t right.

Eddie Mathews hit 72 triples, and stole fewer bases than Musial. Mathews is faster. That isn’t right.

Bill Mazeroski hit fewer triples and stole fewer bases. He is faster than Musial. That isn’t right.

Ernie Banks and Joe Torre are both faster than Musial in this game, yet COMBINED they have fewer triples AND fewer stolen bases than Musial. And they both got caught stealing more than they were successful (48% and 44%, respectively).

So if you think SDS has committed a grave injustice against Stan “The Man” Musial by giving him just 47 speed, like this post to make your voice heard.

We demand a boost of AT LEAST ten attribute points to his speed rating, in order to give credit where credit is due. Stan did not work that hard all those years only to be disrespected like this. He did not give his blood, sweat, and tears to entertain the baseball world, only to have the memory of his skill set so slandered by SDS.

It’s one thing to make a mistake. But when you know better, you do better.

SDS: Now you know better. Please do better.

(PS: This is all in good fun. I’m not really upset about it. I’m not even a Cardinals fan. I’m just saying...)

I was interested in learning more about the career of Stan the Man so I did a little research.

Turns out he is 19th on the all time triples list, and no one ahead of him on the list played after WWII. Not even close. Only one guy was even born in the 20th century (1903).

The year this card represents, his MVP season of 1948, he led the majors with 18 triples.

Yet he only has 47 speed. Unless you’re playing at Polo, I don’t think 47 speed can even get a triple in this game.

Anyway, just sharing what I learned about the great Stan Musial...

Just say you’re a good hitter.

You don’t have to disguise your humble brag as a solicitation of advice. You’re too good at the game to act like you don’t know what to do with Tatis.

I think this is fantastic.

To everybody blasting it, consider the rich history of baseball. There have been many different eras, and this game has given us cards from just about every one of them.

We’ve had Moonshot events and every other kind of event, why not a Dead Ball Era? I think it’s genius.

Remember, some people/organizations (Irl or video game) prefer high-scoring and build their teams around that. Others believe in pitching and defense and build their team around that.

Why shouldn’t they have their event, too? There is nothing wrong with honoring a distinct era of baseball in this video game, especially when the game features players of that era.

For those of you who love power and play at Shippett, sit this one out, just like others have sat out the Moonshot and what not.

For me, I could go either way. I may play this Event a lot and I may not play it much, but I think it’s cool that SDS is honoring this era by including it in the game.

I don’t know but I wouldn’t mind that stadium being taken out of the game. I am SO. DANG. TIRED. of playing at Shippett.

This is more observation than complaint, but...

You know what is a huge waste of time in this game?

Cut aways for the appeal of a check swing.

If you consider how infrequently they actually call it a strike it seems pretty pointless for that little feature.

Wait a minute....You’re 40 years old, Chuck, and you’re berating people on the Internet for the “slang” they use?

Wow. That’s funny. I thought you were a teen. Seriously.

Eatyum showed you how and why you were misguided in your comments but you kept digging your hole deeper and deeper.

Eatyum told you that you can’t determine the level of “self-respect” or education level of someone by the slang or meme phrases they use on the Internet.

In this case, he was right! I graduated magna cum laude with a degree in History and have earned two graduate degrees, including a Master’s. That’s pretty well educated. Wouldn’t you agree?

When Eatyum pointed out how wrong you were, you said you were right and that it was about “context.” You said it was too much to go into detail here, then spent numerous other posts and walls of text to explain further why you were wrong. So no, it wasn’t too much detail to go into, it was the lack of of a substantial argument that prevented further explanation.

There are three main things about this whole thread that I find hilariously ironic.

1. You are denigrating people for their grammar, yet your posts contain several grammatical errors.

2. You said, “If someone says something I dont (grammatical error in original) like...it would be better for me [to not] get offend[ed] by it...But guys joking around about something that has nothing to do with me is a conversation I, as a human being, would be better off staying away from.”

Uh....are you serious? That’s EXACTLY what you did NOT do when you commented on “bro” and “bruh.”

3. You’re 40, telling Eatyum, who is in his early 20’s, that he needs to mature and learn the ways of the world when, clearly, he has a much more broad, thoughtful, considerate, and mature worldview than you.

Sorry, Chuck. I’ve seen you post many times on this forum and never took issue with anything you’ve said before. I still don’t have a problem with you.

But in this situation, you took the ‘L’...........bro.

There is no doubt about it: replaying a homerun is douchey. To me, it is akin to all the many unwritten rules in baseball that are meant to keep people from rubbing it in. Replaying a homerun is definitely rubbing it in.

Also, I think replaying home runs on AS is especially douchey, as anyone can hit a homerun with terrible timing and/or PCI placement on AS.

However, I will say that giving us the ability to replay homeruns when we hit them but not replay when we rob one is messed up. If we have one we should have the other.

Agreed wholeheartedly.

Relief pitchers are useless with the way it is structured now. From stamina to confidence and the three batter minimum, the recipe is disastrous. And that’s why we see so many starters out of the pen. You can’t blame the community of players for doing that when using a reliever has cost them so many leads.

At first I thought all these errors in the outfield were because my team wasn’t stacked and I had guys that could hit, but were bronze fielders or worse.

I just had Mookie Betts, a guy with a 97 fielding rating, miss a routine flyball to right field. And I mean *routine. * It wasn’t smoked to his right or left, and he missed the ball while on a dead sprint. No. It was hit high, and was a can of corn. Error.

I like that fielding attributes matter. But if they matter, and weak fielders make errors, so I upgrade my team for better defenders, and they still make worse errors than the bronze guys, what’s the point?

It’s time to fix this, SDS. I am in a league/chat with a lot of longtime players of this game; guys who have played through a lot of patches and glitches for years. We have never talked about NOT playing this game. Well, we are talking about it now. That’s troubling because I know we aren’t alone.

Fix the fielding. Then the pitching. Make this game playable.

You can dive all over the field. You can slide all over the base paths. You can crash into the outfield wall at a dead sprint. You can take a 102 mph fastball to the head. You can do all that and never be injured.

The only player that can be injured is the starting pitcher when a ball is hit to him. I would say when a line drive is hit to him, but my pitcher just got injured on a weak hit.

Obviously, when your SP goes down injured early in the game, it has huge ramifications for your next several games. That’s not cool.

I am not advocating fielders or hitters get injured. I’m saying take injuries of pitchers out. Can’t really use the “real life” argument about taking a line drive off the face when there’s is literally no other way to get injured in this game. That isn’t real life either.

@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Calm down:

@maurice91932_psn said in Calm down:

@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Calm down:

"If that was the case, everyone would have similar batting averages and similar win/loss records. Clearly, stick skills DO matter, and that’s why some guys win 98% of their games and bat .400. They have stick skills."

These people get rewarded a lot and still complain.

Just yesterday I put 5 swings from Delgado with 4 being good timing almost perfect fly area and another just early. Got zero hits out of it. That is not rewarding stick skills.

Yes, they do. But they’re still dominating. So they are doing something better than the rest of us. If it’s not stick skills, what is it?

Good players with magic internet. Move that server from Florida to Kentucky and see how fast pitching_rebel falls. He would quit the game in a week.

That’s it? I don’t know, man. I think there has to be something more to it than that.

@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Calm down:

"If that was the case, everyone would have similar batting averages and similar win/loss records. Clearly, stick skills DO matter, and that’s why some guys win 98% of their games and bat .400. They have stick skills."

These people get rewarded a lot and still complain.

Just yesterday I put 5 swings from Delgado with 4 being good timing almost perfect fly area and another just early. Got zero hits out of it. That is not rewarding stick skills.

Yes, they do. But they’re still dominating. So they are doing something better than the rest of us. If it’s not stick skills, what is it?

@capt_awesome34 said in Calm down:

Oh man Little Billy is back in the conversation lol

It’s been a few years. I hear “Billy” prefers “William” now. Lol

Yep. I was on the john.

People need to chill. Is this game frustrating? Yeah, sometimes.

But to say it’s scripted, or that stick skills don’t matter is nonsense.

If that was the case, everyone would have similar batting averages and similar win/loss records. Clearly, stick skills DO matter, and that’s why some guys win 98% of their games and bat .400. They have stick skills.

It kills me when people who are barely over .500 with a batting average of .210 get on here and say “stick skills don’t matter.” How would you know? You don’t have any stick skills.

Guys who can only square up 2 pitches in an entire game get mad when those swings don’t go for hits. Yeah, that’s frustrating. But if you could get more good swings you’d get rewarded more.

For years, people jumped on this forum every time they gave up a homer on a less than perfect swing and said dumb things about helping “Little Billy.” People said their stick skills didn’t matter, because they lined out more than they liked and gave up an occasional off PCI homer.

So SDS said fine, we will make it so that you have to consistently put good swings on the ball to score runs. And now what? All y’all are finding out that you’ve been Little Billy all along.

And for the record, I am not good at this game. I’m average at best. I’m just disappointed because the game has been changed to make hitting harder for everyone. The result has been that the elites are still the elites, they’re just scoring less. The average guys are still average, and they’re scoring less. And the bums are the bums, and they aren’t scoring at all.

I’ve long argued that hitting is too hard across the board. I stand by that. But I’ve never said that skills don’t matter.

Every time y’all take a loss, you need to look inward and admit you most likely didn’t swing the bat well consistently. Learn to take a loss, and stop exaggerating how good you are in this game.

I had a guy do that to me to get the first strike but I was able to beat him to the pause button before the next pitch. Very weak sportsmanship for sure.

@virusts_xbl said in When the said Double Login rewards…:

Has anyone ever gotten a diamond? Is it possible? The best I've done was get Goldschmidt the day before he hit diamond.

Yes. In ‘15 I got a Diamond Miggy Cabrera. I was exclusively an offline franchise player prior to that. I didn’t even know what the log in cards were for. Then I get a Diamond one, and I thought, “Oh that’s different. What are these for anyway?”

So, I logged into DD for the first time and now it’s all I play.

@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Batting averages:

@h-town713-x1hqx_xbl said in Batting averages:

My BA online is under .15 I’m terrible online. I think my best hitter is .17 lol

I watched SCAN a YouTuber and I seen his hitting averages online. Dam near every player was close to .40 or above that. I was shocked to say the least like how??

NY streamer with bad internet. Almost every game he plays, he connects to the NJ server. He has an advantage over almost everyone he plays. Good player for sure but almost EVERY great player in this game is located very close to a server. That is not a coincidence. Move the Florida server to Kentucky and see how fast pitching_rebel quits the game. He would probably jump off his roof.

I wish I could play pitching_rebel 10 games where we are and then 10 at an on-site location. Not saying I would win but I would bet everything I own the games would be completely different.

I live in San Diego. Am I close to or far away from a server?

@sportpimpin_xbl said in Is Tommy Pham...:

@yankblan_psn said in Is Tommy Pham...:

Flagged.

Dats wacist yo idindunuffin

I bet you are a fun guy at Klan rallies…