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  • The_CanucklerT Offline
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    @bayareaj1991 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @bayareaj1991 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @Oachs83 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    Very easy to explain

    When you lose hitting and pitching is broken

    When you win.....crickets

    I mean that is true but just because people complain about the hitting and pitching when they lose doesn't change the fact that the pitching and hitting in the game is still pretty bad. Plus of course most people don't complain when they win. They won so why would they complain about it? Doesn't change the fact that the hitting and pitching is still bad.

    Bulls h i t!!! I hit just fine and pitch just fine. And no rng doesn’t decide games either. Been playing longer than you and seen the years where the pitching has been bad (18) and also seen years where the hitting has been bad (19). So sick of reading this horse [censored]. If you suck you suck pitching isn’t going to bail you out like it has in previous years. And while there are some issue with hitting this year it’s not a big separator. Just because you suck at it doesn’t mean everyone else sucks at it. I hit for an average over .300 and pitch to 3.3 ERA.

    Wow you're a very angry individual. Did I ever say anything about rng? Did I every say the broken hitting and pitching is the reason that I am not some elite player? No. I am very happy for you that you are so great at this game but that doesn't change the fact that the hitting or pitching is not messed up. It just means that you are a lot better at the game so congrats on that. A lot of the players that are even better than you say the same thing as us peasants of this game. You being so great doesn't really prove anything. The fact that pitchers who have control in the mid to high 90's with high energy and confidence can still have their pitches not go where you want a lot of the time with perfect release makes me believe that the pitching in this game is not very good or "broken" as a lot of people say. the fact that you can have almost centered up pci with a player and it is a lazy fly ball but then can have your pci not even be on the ball or at the edge of the pci but result in a homerun with that same hitter, pitcher, and field does not make much sense to me. I have been helped and hurt by the crappy hitting probably equally so I never blamed anything on that. Next time take a deep breath before responding to someone.

    Good post.

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    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @bayareaj1991 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @bayareaj1991 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @Oachs83 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    Very easy to explain

    When you lose hitting and pitching is broken

    When you win.....crickets

    I mean that is true but just because people complain about the hitting and pitching when they lose doesn't change the fact that the pitching and hitting in the game is still pretty bad. Plus of course most people don't complain when they win. They won so why would they complain about it? Doesn't change the fact that the hitting and pitching is still bad.

    Bulls h i t!!! I hit just fine and pitch just fine. And no rng doesn’t decide games either. Been playing longer than you and seen the years where the pitching has been bad (18) and also seen years where the hitting has been bad (19). So sick of reading this horse [censored]. If you suck you suck pitching isn’t going to bail you out like it has in previous years. And while there are some issue with hitting this year it’s not a big separator. Just because you suck at it doesn’t mean everyone else sucks at it. I hit for an average over .300 and pitch to 3.3 ERA.

    Wow you're a very angry individual. Did I ever say anything about rng? Did I every say the broken hitting and pitching is the reason that I am not some elite player? No. I am very happy for you that you are so great at this game but that doesn't change the fact that the hitting or pitching is not messed up. It just means that you are a lot better at the game so congrats on that. A lot of the players that are even better than you say the same thing as us peasants of this game. You being so great doesn't really prove anything. The fact that pitchers who have control in the mid to high 90's with high energy and confidence can still have their pitches not go where you want a lot of the time with perfect release makes me believe that the pitching in this game is not very good or "broken" as a lot of people say. the fact that you can have almost centered up pci with a player and it is a lazy fly ball but then can have your pci not even be on the ball or at the edge of the pci but result in a homerun with that same hitter, pitcher, and field does not make much sense to me. I have been helped and hurt by the crappy hitting probably equally so I never blamed anything on that. Next time take a deep breath before responding to someone.

    Good post.

    Thank you sir!

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    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @bayareaj1991 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @Oachs83 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    Very easy to explain

    When you lose hitting and pitching is broken

    When you win.....crickets

    I mean that is true but just because people complain about the hitting and pitching when they lose doesn't change the fact that the pitching and hitting in the game is still pretty bad. Plus of course most people don't complain when they win. They won so why would they complain about it? Doesn't change the fact that the hitting and pitching is still bad.

    Bulls h i t!!! I hit just fine and pitch just fine. And no rng doesn’t decide games either. Been playing longer than you and seen the years where the pitching has been bad (18) and also seen years where the hitting has been bad (19). So sick of reading this horse [censored]. If you suck you suck pitching isn’t going to bail you out like it has in previous years. And while there are some issue with hitting this year it’s not a big separator. Just because you suck at it doesn’t mean everyone else sucks at it. I hit for an average over .300 and pitch to 3.3 ERA.

    Beating up on players in the low levels isn’t the way to go about this debate 🤦🏽‍♂️

    What are you talking about?

    You’re talking like you’re playing at the top when you’re 78-19 beating up on people in wildcard

    First off kid, I’ve taken you to town on at least one occasion. Second I have a career that doesn’t allow me to play every second of every day. Third the majority of my time playing this game I spend in events because I like that format better than RS where I don’t have to deal with people cheesing every possible aspect of the game. So please spare me your holier than thou attitude.

    We’ve literally never played before lol

    How convenient, get a case of selective memory when the truth doesn’t suit your narrative. We played earlier this year in RS and you got smoked. But it really doesn’t matter to me I’ve beaten far better than you and I don’t feel the need to make assumptions about other player and how they obtained their records because records mean nothing as is the case between me and you. So please go troll someone else. I certainly don’t need to prove anything to you. You’re neither my wife nor my employer. You attack my post because I post that I’m sick of people complaining about a stupid video game and use my stats as my argument (which is the only way to make a point that happens to be subjective). Like I said go troll somewhere else.

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    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @bayareaj1991 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @Oachs83 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    Very easy to explain

    When you lose hitting and pitching is broken

    When you win.....crickets

    I mean that is true but just because people complain about the hitting and pitching when they lose doesn't change the fact that the pitching and hitting in the game is still pretty bad. Plus of course most people don't complain when they win. They won so why would they complain about it? Doesn't change the fact that the hitting and pitching is still bad.

    Bulls h i t!!! I hit just fine and pitch just fine. And no rng doesn’t decide games either. Been playing longer than you and seen the years where the pitching has been bad (18) and also seen years where the hitting has been bad (19). So sick of reading this horse [censored]. If you suck you suck pitching isn’t going to bail you out like it has in previous years. And while there are some issue with hitting this year it’s not a big separator. Just because you suck at it doesn’t mean everyone else sucks at it. I hit for an average over .300 and pitch to 3.3 ERA.

    Beating up on players in the low levels isn’t the way to go about this debate 🤦🏽‍♂️

    What are you talking about?

    You’re talking like you’re playing at the top when you’re 78-19 beating up on people in wildcard

    First off kid, I’ve taken you to town on at least one occasion. Second I have a career that doesn’t allow me to play every second of every day. Third the majority of my time playing this game I spend in events because I like that format better than RS where I don’t have to deal with people cheesing every possible aspect of the game. So please spare me your holier than thou attitude.

    We’ve literally never played before lol

    How convenient, get a case of selective memory when the truth doesn’t suit your narrative. We played earlier this year in RS and you got smoked. But it really doesn’t matter to me I’ve beaten far better than you and I don’t feel the need to make assumptions about other player and how they obtained their records because records mean nothing as is the case between me and you. So please go troll someone else. I certainly don’t need to prove anything to you. You’re neither my wife nor my employer. You attack my post because I post that I’m sick of people complaining about a stupid video game and use my stats as my argument (which is the only way to make a point that happens to be subjective). Like I said go troll somewhere else.

    Lol no we haven’t 😂

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    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @bayareaj1991 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @Oachs83 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    Very easy to explain

    When you lose hitting and pitching is broken

    When you win.....crickets

    I mean that is true but just because people complain about the hitting and pitching when they lose doesn't change the fact that the pitching and hitting in the game is still pretty bad. Plus of course most people don't complain when they win. They won so why would they complain about it? Doesn't change the fact that the hitting and pitching is still bad.

    Bulls h i t!!! I hit just fine and pitch just fine. And no rng doesn’t decide games either. Been playing longer than you and seen the years where the pitching has been bad (18) and also seen years where the hitting has been bad (19). So sick of reading this horse [censored]. If you suck you suck pitching isn’t going to bail you out like it has in previous years. And while there are some issue with hitting this year it’s not a big separator. Just because you suck at it doesn’t mean everyone else sucks at it. I hit for an average over .300 and pitch to 3.3 ERA.

    Beating up on players in the low levels isn’t the way to go about this debate 🤦🏽‍♂️

    What are you talking about?

    You’re talking like you’re playing at the top when you’re 78-19 beating up on people in wildcard

    First off kid, I’ve taken you to town on at least one occasion. Second I have a career that doesn’t allow me to play every second of every day. Third the majority of my time playing this game I spend in events because I like that format better than RS where I don’t have to deal with people cheesing every possible aspect of the game. So please spare me your holier than thou attitude.

    We’ve literally never played before lol

    How convenient, get a case of selective memory when the truth doesn’t suit your narrative. We played earlier this year in RS and you got smoked. But it really doesn’t matter to me I’ve beaten far better than you and I don’t feel the need to make assumptions about other player and how they obtained their records because records mean nothing as is the case between me and you. So please go troll someone else. I certainly don’t need to prove anything to you. You’re neither my wife nor my employer. You attack my post because I post that I’m sick of people complaining about a stupid video game and use my stats as my argument (which is the only way to make a point that happens to be subjective). Like I said go troll somewhere else.

    Lol no we haven’t 😂

    Whatever kid!!!

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    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @KILLERPRESENCE4 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @bayareaj1991 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @Oachs83 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    Very easy to explain

    When you lose hitting and pitching is broken

    When you win.....crickets

    I mean that is true but just because people complain about the hitting and pitching when they lose doesn't change the fact that the pitching and hitting in the game is still pretty bad. Plus of course most people don't complain when they win. They won so why would they complain about it? Doesn't change the fact that the hitting and pitching is still bad.

    Bulls h i t!!! I hit just fine and pitch just fine. And no rng doesn’t decide games either. Been playing longer than you and seen the years where the pitching has been bad (18) and also seen years where the hitting has been bad (19). So sick of reading this horse [censored]. If you suck you suck pitching isn’t going to bail you out like it has in previous years. And while there are some issue with hitting this year it’s not a big separator. Just because you suck at it doesn’t mean everyone else sucks at it. I hit for an average over .300 and pitch to 3.3 ERA.

    Beating up on players in the low levels isn’t the way to go about this debate 🤦🏽‍♂️

    What are you talking about?

    You’re talking like you’re playing at the top when you’re 78-19 beating up on people in wildcard

    First off kid, I’ve taken you to town on at least one occasion. Second I have a career that doesn’t allow me to play every second of every day. Third the majority of my time playing this game I spend in events because I like that format better than RS where I don’t have to deal with people cheesing every possible aspect of the game. So please spare me your holier than thou attitude.

    We’ve literally never played before lol

    How convenient, get a case of selective memory when the truth doesn’t suit your narrative. We played earlier this year in RS and you got smoked. But it really doesn’t matter to me I’ve beaten far better than you and I don’t feel the need to make assumptions about other player and how they obtained their records because records mean nothing as is the case between me and you. So please go troll someone else. I certainly don’t need to prove anything to you. You’re neither my wife nor my employer. You attack my post because I post that I’m sick of people complaining about a stupid video game and use my stats as my argument (which is the only way to make a point that happens to be subjective). Like I said go troll somewhere else.

    157 pages of game history and my psn and my old psn didn’t pop up in your played games, it’s almost like I don’t know.... we’ve never played before 😂😂Sorry that you don’t like people complaining about issues in the game, I’m so happy that you have no issues with the game that’s wonderful for you 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

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    Oh and because I know this will come up, it took 7 and a half minutes to do that

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    The game is at best average and inconsistent and at worst just plain bad

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    I might be a horrible guy because I’m somewhat entertained by this. You guys are both probably really good at this game. All I know is that if you guys ever play, I want a twitch invite!

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    @writetoshawn said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    I might be a horrible guy because I’m somewhat entertained by this. You guys are both probably really good at this game. All I know is that if you guys ever play, I want a twitch invite!

    I know who will win

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    @AlphaDag13 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @NCStateHokie said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @OreoRockstar said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    i am not one of the ones that makes this complaint routinely, but the biggest pitching complaint is that change ups and curve balls tend of float up from the targeted area (despite good user input) and are routinely crushed, making them pretty useless. Also not getting strikes called on the black

    hitting complaints are all over the board, I won't even try to sum all the ones I have seen on here.

    This. On top of the floaters a perfect pitch release should result in that pitch going exactly where you wanted it to. I can't count how many times I have placed a pitch in the strike zone and had a good release only to travel a foot or two out and bean a batter. I agree a good release should be penalized a small amount but not drift a few feet and bean a batter. That is for poor releases.

    Agreed. Even bad pitchers can hit a spot when their mechanics line up in real life. There's two things they can do to fix this. 1. Make the yellow line harder or easier to hit based on a pitchers control. The better the pitcher, there bigger there yellow line. Maybe make a perfect release option like they did with throws home. 2. make a pitchers "PCI", like a circle that indicates where the ball could go upon release with each pitch having a different sized circle based on how good that pitcher is wity that pitch. It's really baffling how they haven't figured this out yet. It's not that hard to come up with something that takes into account user input AND player attributes. But they have zero reason to change. No competition in town.

    The pitching mechanic you talk about is basically pulse.

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    @Dino-might_not said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @AlphaDag13 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @NCStateHokie said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @OreoRockstar said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    i am not one of the ones that makes this complaint routinely, but the biggest pitching complaint is that change ups and curve balls tend of float up from the targeted area (despite good user input) and are routinely crushed, making them pretty useless. Also not getting strikes called on the black

    hitting complaints are all over the board, I won't even try to sum all the ones I have seen on here.

    This. On top of the floaters a perfect pitch release should result in that pitch going exactly where you wanted it to. I can't count how many times I have placed a pitch in the strike zone and had a good release only to travel a foot or two out and bean a batter. I agree a good release should be penalized a small amount but not drift a few feet and bean a batter. That is for poor releases.

    Agreed. Even bad pitchers can hit a spot when their mechanics line up in real life. There's two things they can do to fix this. 1. Make the yellow line harder or easier to hit based on a pitchers control. The better the pitcher, there bigger there yellow line. Maybe make a perfect release option like they did with throws home. 2. make a pitchers "PCI", like a circle that indicates where the ball could go upon release with each pitch having a different sized circle based on how good that pitcher is wity that pitch. It's really baffling how they haven't figured this out yet. It's not that hard to come up with something that takes into account user input AND player attributes. But they have zero reason to change. No competition in town.

    The pitching mechanic you talk about is basically pulse.

    Exepxt for its not pulsing, and it uses other modes of pitching for input. Soooo not really.

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    @lucas8181 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @lucas8181 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @The_Canuckler said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @lucas8181 said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    @OreoRockstar said in When People Say Hitting/Pitching is Broken:

    i am not one of the ones that makes this complaint routinely, but the biggest pitching complaint is that change ups and curve balls tend of float up from the targeted area (despite good user input) and are routinely crushed, making them pretty useless. Also not getting strikes called on the black

    hitting complaints are all over the board, I won't even try to sum all the ones I have seen on here.

    So...you adjust. you've had almost a year now. If they end up higher than you want, start them lower. I'm not great at the game, I can't hit worth a darn, but my ERA is fantastic. No pitcher SP or RP has an ERA above 2. While I question the universal profile stats accuracy, it says my ERA is .64 through 1500 games.

    That's mostly on all-star, with some occasional games in the 700's.

    So again, adjust.

    Bruhhh don’t talk about your era when it looks like most of your losses you dashboard 🤦🏽‍♂️

    For the last few weeks? Sure, I'm only playing online to finish prestige stats, usually after work, I want to spend time with my wife and kids. Got 5 or 6 guys prestiged. Once I reach that, i quit. It's too late in the year to care about much else. (you'll see I have several games I quit while winning).

    But, If you are a single guy with a cat, sure, your record matters . Enjoy the extra time 🙂

    If you are ever lucky enough to have a wonderful marriage and family like I have, a baseball game won't be a priority.

    I hope you find that someday 🙂

    Don’t go touting your era when your dashboarding on people to save your era I didn’t say anything about your record but you got defensive about that real quick... also that’s hugeeee talk from someone with 1400 hours on the game, don’t act like you’re not doing the same as everyone else 😂😂

    Tough man, I hope you find the life you want. There's someone out there for you, Promise! Just don't settle. Someday the right girl will come your way! Off to watch a movie with my family, sorry you don't have that...yet. Give it time. (how do I know? You determine self worth by the ability to play a virtual video game. That's not what life is....but that's where you are right now. Don't believe it...there's so much more. Good luck my friend).

    When you have to try to attack actual data, to make yourself feel better, you are in a tough place. (See Trump supporters, probably you too, Qanon and all).

    But you can't fight the truth, even if it doesn't fit your narrative. In the end, data is data, and your ability to agree with it is pointless. You can't change what has already happened. Sorry 😞

    I may be late to the party, but the guy you're arguing with (who enjoys having a difference in opinion), does have a wife and kids...he use to have a twitch account under a different name and mentioned having a wife and kids.

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