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Found it in extras, thanks for the heads up 🙂 Makes sense.

Really wish they would bring back the game by game performance stats though

Not only that, but there's a lot of times (never bothered to correlate lack of game log with this) where the tickers would show something like 0-2 <gap>, Strikeout. Or 0-1, <nothing>

@Red_Ted_is_back said in Weirdest 2-out play ever:

As subject line describes, this one’s a thinker…

MLB The Show 22 CPU makes weirdest 2-out play ever

I'm pretty sure the CPU knows what it's doing.

It's so dumb that it's a rule but you have to schedule to pitch that pitcher the next inning for it to count on Diaz, and I have no clue why Diaz would be given an earned run, but on the loading screen it always says that all the runs are earned, I think it's just a bug because it does not fall on the pitchers ERA

Lol, better than when those ads change mid pitch.

@kovz88_psn said in PAR randomness:

I would've said the same thing about the effort but you barely went past the yellow. The only other question I have might be a stupid one cause I haven't used meter in a while:
Is good in meter the same as perfect in pinpoint or is there a perfect on meter as well?

There is no perfect on meter, or at least no feedback that confirms it. Basically that white bit expands when pitcher confidence is over 85% or something. Normally it’s just a thin line.

I'm not knocking your ideas as it would work for some, but there are still plenty of gamers who just want a deep and all inclusive Franchise/Dynasty mode. The problem is we've been marginalized by greed (some would say it's intended) and have lost interest or jumped ship to a sport that's far from our favorite because it has a Franchise mode that is better.

I have anomalies with my own RTTS character. Such as he's a 2-way player in the Show 2020. I created a SP but used all the hitting equipment. Pretty soon I was playing LF between starts. Similar to Othani's rest in real life. What sucked is I was used more as a hitter than the Ace of the staff in playoff games. I'm a much better pitcher by far. Wish you could have more control over your players to start on 3 day rest in playoffs.

@jonah-falcon_xbl said in RTTS speedrun:

They said multiple characters in 22.
My issue is that RTTS is boring aside from actual baseball gameplay.

I’d be wary about that first point.

The exact wording is ‘ Create and use multiple Ballplayers, beyond your Road to the Show personalized Baseball RPG experience, and customize your Ballplayers exactly how you want to aid in your progression.’

My experience is that vague wording leads to misinterpretation, especially with this game.

On the second point, I quite liked the RTTS cut scenes with Ben and the MLB Network analysts and former players. I found the ones I watched to be very interesting. Hopefully the same ones and more will be around in 22 and it’s worth buying.

Hopefully some of the features removed from RTTS and Franchise will make their way back too.

Edit: by ‘misinterpretation’ above I mean things being kept deliberately vague to get the hype going.

Now this is one of my first years of the show. I have 18 and 19 but it wasn’t me playing them.
But I am a long term player of NBA 2K and these stats will be surprising
NBA 2k19: 364 hrs (I started at the end of the year)
2k20:1287 hrs (Covid and I played the game every day pretty much)
But 2k21, I played since launch at took breaks from it during the new year and endgame. Only about 400 hrs. Surprising, I thought I played the game a lot more. I can’t really speak of 2k22 yet since that game is early in its life cycle. But I feel it’ll be down even lower now that I have MLB. 2k22 is not flawed in any way. But it’s just not fun to play. By this time last year I had 170 offline wins. I haven’t even gotten half that. It’s sad, although all 20 21 and 19 and much worse games to most people. I’d rather play them... too bad the servers on those games will shut down in the year or so.
Edit: Sorry for bad grammar, I had to type this on my phone in a rush

@vipersneak_mlbts said in No, user input (stick skills) does not reign supreme in Competitive Gameplay Style:

@red_ted_is_back said in No, user input (stick skills) does not reign supreme in Competitive Gameplay Style:

@vipersneak_mlbts said in No, user input (stick skills) does not reign supreme in Competitive Gameplay Style:

If input was all that mattered a 99 diamond would be no better than a common player. Get over it.

Thank you, it seems you’ve misinterpreted my point.

I partially misinterpreted in only that I thought you were playing online. Here is the thing. You pitcher has attributes, he gets tired, he has a confidence rating for the pitch you selected, he has k/9 rating, he has a clutch rating, the batter has a clutch rating (so tight situations user input will indeed be affected more), and perfect input will never 100% of the time give perfect results. Because as I said, if it did, then it wouldn't matter which pitcher you ever used. Perfect input should give your input more of a say in the outcome, and perhaps it doesn't enough, but it wasn't designed to make input 100% either. Your evidence is pretty weak as well. That is one pitch. Do that experiment 100 times on each playstyle (competitive and simulation) and then determine which values user input more often. You also adding in a conspiracy theory which I do understand, and often frustrates me. I too often think that I was set up by the coding. Then I remember that all players make errors and stuff like this happens in real baseball as well. Sometimes the other team screws up in my favor so I am good with it.

Think about how real baseball plays out. It's pretty messy and odd things are happening all the time that leave you scratching your head as to how your favorite team could play that poorly, or how that player could have decided to do such a dumb thing or make such a stupid error. Do you really want the game sanitized and sterile? So clear cut that you can predict every outcome based on something? I don't. But if you do, then perhaps they do need to make competitive mode even worse than it is now so you are able to calculate the outcomes based on 100% user input. I simply do not see how that could be fun for anyone, and would indeed lead to your players not mattering.

This is good to keep in mind, and pretty well explained.

It's like in D&D terms, there are buffs and debuffs -- stats competing against each other. So the result is affected by more than YOUR stats and input, it's also affected by the other guy's stats.

Might be horrific to ponder, but FOR INSTANCE -- if you throw a perfect pitch with a good pitcher but the hitter has great stats, there's a man on second with 2 outs, and the hitter's clutch attribute is high and yours is average/low...MAYBE that triggers a meatball?

I would vote for attributes like clutch being deactivated in RS so "stick skills reign supreme" in a more solid way.