April Lightning
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@chrisham8380_PSN said in April Lightning:
@YOSHI24_XBL You literally can’t win without scoring runs.
Which is why he got a +12 to his clutch attribute and part of the reason he got plus 3 overall and upgraded to a Silver from a bronze.
Sorry that you got you hopes up.
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@YOSHI24_XBL Have you heard of the Clutch rating? What do you think that is? lol
Do RBI hold as much weight as in the past no. But to say no one gives them weight is ludicrous. They have plenty of value in the industry.
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@trfatboy22_PSN the play by play guys? Yes. The scouts and FO personnel? No.
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@yankblan_PSN Imagine being so blatantly and confidently wrong lmao. But hey good for you I guess.
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@trfatboy22_PSN google « irony »
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@yankblan_PSN Nah I'm good, I'll let you believe what you want. But I'm not the one who is wrong here.
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@trfatboy22_PSN back to you
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@yankblan_PSN I’ve seen plenty of times where a team gets the bases loaded with no outs and doesn’t score, because nobody could get the RBI. Saying RBI’s have no value is the same as you telling me you don’t really watch baseball. You can get on base all you want, but if you don’t have someone who is able to get the runners home, you will lose every game.
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This is the worst drop I’ve seen in years. All of these cards are garbage except for Weaver. What’s going on over there at SdS?
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@trfatboy22_PSN, and @chrisham8380_PSN, RBI isn't a useful stat as far as evaluating hitters because, as @yankblan says, it simply reflects what happened before a player's at bat (and not anything the batter did differently). Someone mentioned "clutch," and while that's a fun aspect of this video game, it isn't a real thing; it makes people feel good about players they like, and it may fill them with hope when they come up with runners on base, but there is no basis in reality for such an attribute (and there is probably more evidence for the efficacy of rally caps).
Just like no one is "clutch" at pulling high diamonds from packs; they're either in there before the pack is opened or they aren't.
Some light reading on the subject:
https://sabr.org/journal/article/the-statistical-mirage-of-clutch-hitting/
https://sabr.org/journal/article/clutch-hitting-revisited/
https://library.fangraphs.com/stats-to-avoid-runs-batted-in-rbi/
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@chrisham8380_PSN you’re conflating RBI as a hitter’s stat and runs as a team.
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Not Logan Webb and Jung Hoo Lee but Wilmer Flores for Giants?? Wow
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@trfatboy22_PSN said in April Lightning:
@YOSHI24_XBL Have you heard of the Clutch rating? What do you think that is? lol
Do RBI hold as much weight as in the past no. But to say no one gives them weight is ludicrous. They have plenty of value in the industry.
Listen, Clutch is no real stat too … We are blended by this listening to reporters … who have no clue about how statistics work. Wanna go check? Derek Jeter … Mr. November … Go look up his postseason and „clutch“ stats
. He is one of my favourite players, he is a good hitter … but he did the same (good) in every situation in this sports with statistic measurements …
And RBI is a measurement on opportunities, not skill … Sad I had to tell you that. Did you know, that in my country, Baseball is not even close to being a national pasttime ? -
@VioletNine9_XBL said in April Lightning:
This is the worst drop I’ve seen in years. All of these cards are garbage except for Weaver. What’s going on over there at SdS?
If that is your worst drop, you never looked at the other drop (from either this year‘s drops or last year). They are free cards, 90% never makes it to the god squads … This drop is all around the lightning guys
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But let‘s talk about something else I find very interesting.
Weekend-Classics is coming and they exactly dropped this very hard collection.
Last Weekend-Classics, they dropped Randy right before in the Chase Pack.Like it or not (I tend to be on the „not“-side
) both were awesome moves … for SDS and „the players“. Want that card bad? Go ahead and think how you spend your stubs -
I like the program. I enjoy challenging (but not absurd) stat grinds. And no showdown!
I do wish we could use some of the cheesy parks in play vs cpu like we could last year. Oh well. This will keep me busy through the weekend. And Corbin is my favorite player, so I’m happy to grind for that card. People love complaining. This is fine for April.
(But please bring back repeatable CQ maps!)
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All I know is Heliot Ramos better get a Topps now for being the first righty to get a splash hit at Oracle Park.
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btw … prices for the Santana collection have come „way“ down from yesterday … prox 520K (still a lot though
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@yankblan_PSN Can’t get runs as a team without an individual getting the RBI
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@chrisham8380_PSN exactly, someone HAS to, and it’s mainly a function of opportunities (situational ABs volume) and teammates ability to get on base before you than individual performance. Even avg with RISP is dependent on BABIP which can fluctuate wildly year to year; you can get a single with Big Papi on 2B and not get an RBI.
A good example is Trout who was considered the GOAT for an 8 year or so period. Led the league in runs 5 times but RBIs only once.
It’s not a useless stat, but is not as important as old school types make it out to be.
