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  • sbchamps17_NSWS Online
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    Flores has definitely fallen off after his hot start and plus he's not an everyday player like Alonso is

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  • P0pa Cherry_XBLP Online
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    It's also a sham that Webb didn't go diamond with the roster update.

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    Flores batted .223 and 4 homers for the month of April. Not really Worth a card in my opinion for the month of April only for RBIs

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  • YOSHI24_XBLY Offline
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    RBI … after pitcher wins probably the most useless stat to judge anything of

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  • chrisham8380_PSNC Online
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    @YOSHI24_XBL You literally can’t win without scoring runs.

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  • chrisham8380_PSNC Online
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    But Marte gets a spotlight for leading the Reds in RBIs in April with 16. Wow.

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  • YOSHI24_XBLY Offline
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    @chrisham8380_PSN said in April Lightning:

    @YOSHI24_XBL You literally can’t win without scoring runs.

    Runs scored is different from RBI … and RBI does not say anything about how good a hitter is. Nobody in the business give the stat any value, because the hitter has no influence on what the people in front of him in the batting order do

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    @chrisham8380_PSN said in April Lightning:

    But Marte gets a spotlight for leading the Reds in RBIs in April with 16. ...

    ... "while posting a 135 wRC+ in April".

    That's good for 44th in MLB. Guess where Flores's 78 wRC+ ranks. 133rd.

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  • PAinPA_PSNP Offline
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    Between all the DQs there is 8 or so moments with score a run or get an RBI , you have a man on 3rd and 3 outs to do it, I have done it every time maybe 200 times doing it , I can count on both hands the amount of times I've gotten a hit to do it.
    RBIs are good to measure value to a team or chances to win games, but are terrible at rating how good a batter is .

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  • Dolenz_PSND Online
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    @chrisham8380_PSN said in April Lightning:

    @YOSHI24_XBL You literally can’t win without scoring runs.

    Which is why he got a +12 to his clutch attribute and part of the reason he got plus 3 overall and upgraded to a Silver from a bronze.

    Sorry that you got you hopes up.

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  • trfatboy22_PSNT Offline
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    @YOSHI24_XBL Have you heard of the Clutch rating? What do you think that is? lol

    Do RBI hold as much weight as in the past no. But to say no one gives them weight is ludicrous. They have plenty of value in the industry.

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  • yankblan_PSNY Offline
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    @trfatboy22_PSN the play by play guys? Yes. The scouts and FO personnel? No.

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  • trfatboy22_PSNT Offline
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    @yankblan_PSN Imagine being so blatantly and confidently wrong lmao. But hey good for you I guess.

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  • yankblan_PSNY Offline
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    @trfatboy22_PSN google « irony »

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  • trfatboy22_PSNT Offline
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    @yankblan_PSN Nah I'm good, I'll let you believe what you want. But I'm not the one who is wrong here.

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    @trfatboy22_PSN back to you

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    @yankblan_PSN I’ve seen plenty of times where a team gets the bases loaded with no outs and doesn’t score, because nobody could get the RBI. Saying RBI’s have no value is the same as you telling me you don’t really watch baseball. You can get on base all you want, but if you don’t have someone who is able to get the runners home, you will lose every game.

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    This is the worst drop I’ve seen in years. All of these cards are garbage except for Weaver. What’s going on over there at SdS?

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    @trfatboy22_PSN, and @chrisham8380_PSN, RBI isn't a useful stat as far as evaluating hitters because, as @yankblan says, it simply reflects what happened before a player's at bat (and not anything the batter did differently). Someone mentioned "clutch," and while that's a fun aspect of this video game, it isn't a real thing; it makes people feel good about players they like, and it may fill them with hope when they come up with runners on base, but there is no basis in reality for such an attribute (and there is probably more evidence for the efficacy of rally caps).

    Just like no one is "clutch" at pulling high diamonds from packs; they're either in there before the pack is opened or they aren't.

    Some light reading on the subject:

    https://sabr.org/journal/article/the-statistical-mirage-of-clutch-hitting/

    https://sabr.org/journal/article/clutch-hitting-revisited/

    https://library.fangraphs.com/stats-to-avoid-runs-batted-in-rbi/

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    @chrisham8380_PSN you’re conflating RBI as a hitter’s stat and runs as a team.

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