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Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low

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  • kpdevine_XBLK Offline
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    actually did he just get position changed and no stat change? What lol

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    Dude was the biggest [censored] in the world for the pirates until the last series he pitched for them. That’s gonna drag him down for a while w the way they do ratings

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    @dudeman22__psn said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:

    Dude was the biggest [censored] in the world for the pirates until the last series he pitched for them. That’s gonna drag him down for a while w the way they do ratings

    It’s clear he’s not the same pitcher. The sample is big and the savant page backs it up + he’s changed his pitching tendencies

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    He definitely passes the eye test. Hitters are looking lost when facing him and that sinker is a bowling ball.

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    @kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:

    @dudeman22__psn said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:

    Dude was the biggest [censored] in the world for the pirates until the last series he pitched for them. That’s gonna drag him down for a while w the way they do ratings

    It’s clear he’s not the same pitcher. The sample is big and the savant page backs it up + he’s changed his pitching tendencies

    Yeah that’s true, but they’re still not gonna upgrade him much for that reason

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    I’d say you don’t just get to diamond after half a season of doing well. But Cedric Mullins made it to diamond last year after being an afterthought for a few years.

    To me the 3 year average is gone. No way Bo Bichette is a silver over the past 3 years. Same with so many other players.

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    @saintleo14_mlbts said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:

    I’d say you don’t just get to diamond after half a season of doing well. But Cedric Mullins made it to diamond last year after being an afterthought for a few years.

    To me the 3 year average is gone. No way Bo Bichette is a silver over the past 3 years. Same with so many other players.

    It’s a year and a half for holmes and the team change emphasizes it, he’s playing like a diamond now and hasn’t been the same player

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    I think his getting a POTM card in the final set of card for this months May program 92-93 OVR card.

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  • kpdevine_XBLK Offline
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    He just won reliever of the month. Really should be a diamond imo

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    He ALMOST gave up a run two days ago. SDS going to use that to justify keeping him silver.

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    Clay Holmes extends scoreless inning streak to 26

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    @kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:

    Clay Holmes extends scoreless inning streak to 26

    FA pickup in both of my fantasy leagues, absolutely has been amazing and carrying my bullpen.

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    1131 ERA+ LOL

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    He'll go up to Gold next update.

    His biggest issue in reaching diamond is just how much emphasis SDS puts on the K/9 attribute. There are only 4 live series diamond relivers and they all have K/9 > 10. Holmes does not.

    I have complained about it before. Their rating system has very little leeway for guys who are effective but do not get a ton of strikeouts. Adam Wainwright was 7th in the NL Cy Young last year and ended the regular season as an 80 because his K/9 rating was was only 56. He even won Pitcher of the Month in August last year and got a whopping +1 in the final roster upgrade of that month. It would be three more weeks before he even cracked gold.

    Other stats like H/9 and BB/9 definitely matter but it really does seem like pitchers in this game live or die by their K/9 rating.

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  • kpdevine_XBLK Offline
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    My man just broke Mariano Rivers’s scoreless inning streak what does he have to do lol

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    @kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:

    My man just broke Mariano Rivers’s scoreless inning streak what does he have to do lol

    Like I said in the previous message, he needs to strike out more. It is the same issue Alex Reyes had last year. He was the hottest closer in baseball up until the all star break, never gave up a run until his 16th appearance, ended june with a 0.91 ERA and never climbed above a silver because he was doing it without striking a lot of guys out.

    There are now only 2 diamond relief pitchers, Josh Hader and Taylor Rogers

    Josh Hader (91) with a 106 k/9 rating in game because he is striking out 15.1 batters per 9

    Taylor Rogers (85) with a 75 K/9 rating in game because he is striking out 9.7 a game. He is helped by a 103 Hits/9 rating based on real life 5 hits per nine this year

    Holmes is very close to Rogers in his ratings, just a tad lower on the k/9 attribute. I would expect the gap to close between them next update, but not sure if that means Clay gets bumped or Taylor gets downgraded. Or maybe both?

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    Unless he gets blown up this week. The next roster update he will go up 4 overalls and be a 85 overall. I see Taylor Rogers potentially dropping to a 84.

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    We’re so close y’all… hopefully one more week

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    SDS uses 3 year averages for their upgrades and ratings...

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  • mjfc_363_PSNM Offline
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    Dude, he could be the son of god and SDS would find a way keep him a silver.

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