Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low
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@kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
@eatyum_psn said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
@kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
@eatyum_psn said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
@kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
@eatyum_psn said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
He def should get upgraded more, but to a diamond?
I'll first point out that you aren't showing stats that correlate to upgraded stats. ERA and ERA+ aren't in-game stats. bWAR isn't an in-game stat that gets upgraded
Secondly, while his H/9 could use an upgrade, his 9.0 K/9, while good, isn't something that screams huge upgrade. And those two stats are generally the most important to bumping overall.
It's not just about how a player is doing in RL, you have to look at how players get bumped in overalls in game, you have to look at those measurements.
His HR/9, H/9, and BB/9 could also use a big upgrade. His HR/9 could be close to maxed out lol. Dude doesn’t allow home runs and is a ground ball pitcher
His H/9 is at 87, so while it def needs to be upgraded, it's hard to say that it needs a "big" upgrade, they aren't just gonna give him 110 h/9, at most he would go up to upper 90s, and that's not enough to get him to diamond.
But is it 105 H/9 undeserved?
Go look at every LS reliever, you know how many have 105? A total of 5, and those 5 are there because of the three year average. They are not just going to mega boost Clay Holmes suddenly. Relievers are some of the hardest cards to get to diamond,
And 105 H/9 still wouldn't get him to a diamond either. Ryan Tepera has 106 H/9 and is a 79 silver.
Holmes is better than Tepera by a lot
Not in H/9, Tepera has a better H/9 in rl
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He is more likely to get a Topps Now or POTM card than a big boost to his LS
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It’s not just current stats that affect a players rating. It’s the past few years as well. If not a player that plays great for a month and a half could have a mid 90’s card. Plus trying to figure out how SDS does player upgrades or downgrades is anyones guess, and doesn’t make sense a lot of the time.
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Got upgraded but it’s not enough, should have gone gold, close to diamond. Only got a bump to high silver for one of the best RPs in the sport.
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actually did he just get position changed and no stat change? What lol
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Dude was the biggest [censored] in the world for the pirates until the last series he pitched for them. That’s gonna drag him down for a while w the way they do ratings
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@dudeman22__psn said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
Dude was the biggest [censored] in the world for the pirates until the last series he pitched for them. That’s gonna drag him down for a while w the way they do ratings
It’s clear he’s not the same pitcher. The sample is big and the savant page backs it up + he’s changed his pitching tendencies
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He definitely passes the eye test. Hitters are looking lost when facing him and that sinker is a bowling ball.
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@kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
@dudeman22__psn said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
Dude was the biggest [censored] in the world for the pirates until the last series he pitched for them. That’s gonna drag him down for a while w the way they do ratings
It’s clear he’s not the same pitcher. The sample is big and the savant page backs it up + he’s changed his pitching tendencies
Yeah that’s true, but they’re still not gonna upgrade him much for that reason
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I’d say you don’t just get to diamond after half a season of doing well. But Cedric Mullins made it to diamond last year after being an afterthought for a few years.
To me the 3 year average is gone. No way Bo Bichette is a silver over the past 3 years. Same with so many other players.
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@saintleo14_mlbts said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
I’d say you don’t just get to diamond after half a season of doing well. But Cedric Mullins made it to diamond last year after being an afterthought for a few years.
To me the 3 year average is gone. No way Bo Bichette is a silver over the past 3 years. Same with so many other players.
It’s a year and a half for holmes and the team change emphasizes it, he’s playing like a diamond now and hasn’t been the same player
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I think his getting a POTM card in the final set of card for this months May program 92-93 OVR card.
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He just won reliever of the month. Really should be a diamond imo
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He ALMOST gave up a run two days ago. SDS going to use that to justify keeping him silver.
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Clay Holmes extends scoreless inning streak to 26
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@kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
Clay Holmes extends scoreless inning streak to 26
FA pickup in both of my fantasy leagues, absolutely has been amazing and carrying my bullpen.
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1131 ERA+ LOL
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He'll go up to Gold next update.
His biggest issue in reaching diamond is just how much emphasis SDS puts on the K/9 attribute. There are only 4 live series diamond relivers and they all have K/9 > 10. Holmes does not.
I have complained about it before. Their rating system has very little leeway for guys who are effective but do not get a ton of strikeouts. Adam Wainwright was 7th in the NL Cy Young last year and ended the regular season as an 80 because his K/9 rating was was only 56. He even won Pitcher of the Month in August last year and got a whopping +1 in the final roster upgrade of that month. It would be three more weeks before he even cracked gold.
Other stats like H/9 and BB/9 definitely matter but it really does seem like pitchers in this game live or die by their K/9 rating.
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My man just broke Mariano Rivers’s scoreless inning streak what does he have to do lol
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@kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
My man just broke Mariano Rivers’s scoreless inning streak what does he have to do lol
Like I said in the previous message, he needs to strike out more. It is the same issue Alex Reyes had last year. He was the hottest closer in baseball up until the all star break, never gave up a run until his 16th appearance, ended june with a 0.91 ERA and never climbed above a silver because he was doing it without striking a lot of guys out.
There are now only 2 diamond relief pitchers, Josh Hader and Taylor Rogers
Josh Hader (91) with a 106 k/9 rating in game because he is striking out 15.1 batters per 9
Taylor Rogers (85) with a 75 K/9 rating in game because he is striking out 9.7 a game. He is helped by a 103 Hits/9 rating based on real life 5 hits per nine this year
Holmes is very close to Rogers in his ratings, just a tad lower on the k/9 attribute. I would expect the gap to close between them next update, but not sure if that means Clay gets bumped or Taylor gets downgraded. Or maybe both?
