Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low
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I’d say you don’t just get to diamond after half a season of doing well. But Cedric Mullins made it to diamond last year after being an afterthought for a few years.
To me the 3 year average is gone. No way Bo Bichette is a silver over the past 3 years. Same with so many other players.
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@saintleo14_mlbts said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
I’d say you don’t just get to diamond after half a season of doing well. But Cedric Mullins made it to diamond last year after being an afterthought for a few years.
To me the 3 year average is gone. No way Bo Bichette is a silver over the past 3 years. Same with so many other players.
It’s a year and a half for holmes and the team change emphasizes it, he’s playing like a diamond now and hasn’t been the same player
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I think his getting a POTM card in the final set of card for this months May program 92-93 OVR card.
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He just won reliever of the month. Really should be a diamond imo
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He ALMOST gave up a run two days ago. SDS going to use that to justify keeping him silver.
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Clay Holmes extends scoreless inning streak to 26
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@kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
Clay Holmes extends scoreless inning streak to 26
FA pickup in both of my fantasy leagues, absolutely has been amazing and carrying my bullpen.
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1131 ERA+ LOL
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He'll go up to Gold next update.
His biggest issue in reaching diamond is just how much emphasis SDS puts on the K/9 attribute. There are only 4 live series diamond relivers and they all have K/9 > 10. Holmes does not.
I have complained about it before. Their rating system has very little leeway for guys who are effective but do not get a ton of strikeouts. Adam Wainwright was 7th in the NL Cy Young last year and ended the regular season as an 80 because his K/9 rating was was only 56. He even won Pitcher of the Month in August last year and got a whopping +1 in the final roster upgrade of that month. It would be three more weeks before he even cracked gold.
Other stats like H/9 and BB/9 definitely matter but it really does seem like pitchers in this game live or die by their K/9 rating.
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My man just broke Mariano Rivers’s scoreless inning streak what does he have to do lol
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@kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
My man just broke Mariano Rivers’s scoreless inning streak what does he have to do lol
Like I said in the previous message, he needs to strike out more. It is the same issue Alex Reyes had last year. He was the hottest closer in baseball up until the all star break, never gave up a run until his 16th appearance, ended june with a 0.91 ERA and never climbed above a silver because he was doing it without striking a lot of guys out.
There are now only 2 diamond relief pitchers, Josh Hader and Taylor Rogers
Josh Hader (91) with a 106 k/9 rating in game because he is striking out 15.1 batters per 9
Taylor Rogers (85) with a 75 K/9 rating in game because he is striking out 9.7 a game. He is helped by a 103 Hits/9 rating based on real life 5 hits per nine this year
Holmes is very close to Rogers in his ratings, just a tad lower on the k/9 attribute. I would expect the gap to close between them next update, but not sure if that means Clay gets bumped or Taylor gets downgraded. Or maybe both?
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Unless he gets blown up this week. The next roster update he will go up 4 overalls and be a 85 overall. I see Taylor Rogers potentially dropping to a 84.
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We’re so close y’all… hopefully one more week
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SDS uses 3 year averages for their upgrades and ratings...
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Dude, he could be the son of god and SDS would find a way keep him a silver.
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@t3baseball_psn said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
SDS uses 3 year averages for their upgrades and ratings...
Feels less applicable since the change has been since coming to New York and there’s a clear and continual pattern of good performance. Also SDS doesn’t always follow that.
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Is there an update tomorrow
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What does he have to do? Is being a top RP not enougu
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@kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
What does he have to do? Is being a top RP not enough
No. Unfortunately not. That was proven by Alex Reyes in the first half of last year. He converted 22 consecutive saves was an all star and was still a silver rated player.
As mentioned before. ERA, # of Saves, even Scoreless innings make no impact on a relievers overall. K/9 is the most important stat/ratings along with hits per 9 (and maybe clutch)
Currently here are the 4 diamond live series closers and their k/9 and H/9 rating
- Josh Hader 106 and 124
- Edwin Diaz 114 and 98
- Taylor Rodgers 76 and 106
- Rasiel Iglesias 87 and 95
If Clay could get his k/9 rating up to 75 or 80 then he would make diamond. It is not just Holmes though as there are 5 pitchers either ranked 83 or 84 that could make the same argument.
Ryan Helsely actually has a good enough H/9 and K/9 ratings to be a diamond but they have his clutch rating really low (59). That number has not even been updated at all this year
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@dolenz_psn said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
@kpdevine_xbl said in Clay Holmes is like 12 overalls too low:
What does he have to do? Is being a top RP not enough
No. Unfortunately not. That was proven by Alex Reyes in the first half of last year. He converted 22 consecutive saves was an all star and was still a silver rated player.
As mentioned before. ERA, # of Saves, even Scoreless innings make no impact on a relievers overall. K/9 is the most important stat/ratings along with hits per 9 (and maybe clutch)
Currently here are the 4 diamond live series closers and their k/9 and H/9 rating
- Josh Hader 106 and 124
- Edwin Diaz 114 and 98
- Taylor Rodgers 76 and 106
- Rasiel Iglesias 87 and 95
If Clay could get his k/9 rating up to 75 or 80 then he would make diamond. It is not just Holmes though as there are 5 pitchers either ranked 83 or 84 that could make the same argument.
Ryan Helsely actually has a good enough H/9 and K/9 ratings to be a diamond but they have his clutch rating really low (59). That number has not even been updated at all this year
My counter argument is that there is a Holmes POTM who is a 91, clearly some boosts can be made, especially since he has performed nearly almost as good as that POTM the full season. Almost an 800 ERA+
