HOF enjoyable?
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@eatyum_psn said in HOF enjoyable?:
@bobbyromano24 said in HOF enjoyable?:
I just don’t understand why Edward Cabrera can consistently throw 100 mph sinkers but guys like Zack Wheeler and Jose Alvarado max out at 97 with their sinkers. And it also makes zero sense how a sinker acts NOTHING like a 2-seam FB in the game when they are the SAME PITCH in real life. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills! Doesn’t anybody else realize this?!? Ferrari, Le Tigre, Blue Steel, there all the same look!!!
Because Edward Cabrera has outlier on his sinker and those other guys don't.
It’s because they made his sinker 93-100 and the other guys 93-97. Alvarado throws everything 99-102 so there’s no reason for him to top out at 97. Wheeler also isn’t topping out at only 97 with his sinker, that’s his average velo. It’s poor programming. Another note: a 98 mph sinker should be the same perceived velocity as a 98 mph 4 seam, a 98 mph 2 seam, or a 98 mph cutter. Yet these pitches will feel like: sinker 102, 4 seam 98, 2 seam/cutter 94
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@bobbyromano24 said in HOF enjoyable?:
@eatyum_psn said in HOF enjoyable?:
@bobbyromano24 said in HOF enjoyable?:
I just don’t understand why Edward Cabrera can consistently throw 100 mph sinkers but guys like Zack Wheeler and Jose Alvarado max out at 97 with their sinkers. And it also makes zero sense how a sinker acts NOTHING like a 2-seam FB in the game when they are the SAME PITCH in real life. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills! Doesn’t anybody else realize this?!? Ferrari, Le Tigre, Blue Steel, there all the same look!!!
Because Edward Cabrera has outlier on his sinker and those other guys don't.
It’s because they made his sinker 93-100 and the other guys 93-97. Alvarado throws everything 99-102 so there’s no reason for him to top out at 97. Wheeler also isn’t topping out at only 97 with his sinker, that’s his average velo. It’s poor programming. Another note: a 98 mph sinker should be the same perceived velocity as a 98 mph 4 seam, a 98 mph 2 seam, or a 98 mph cutter. Yet these pitches will feel like: sinker 102, 4 seam 98, 2 seam/cutter 94
It's because they gave Edward Cabrera the outlier quirk as I stated above....the outlier quirk allows a pitch to go past it's "max" velocity.
Just like Alvarado can go 102 on his fastball, he has outlier on that pitch.
It's not "poor" programming if it's intentional. Whether it should be that way is obviously debatable.
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Pinpoint pitching needs to be nerfed a bit. I'm hitting just fine on HOF when I'm getting more than 1 pitch to hit every 3 innings. Against Cabrera, Glavine, etc. in the hands of someone who knows how to sequence and has mastered pinpoint, it's pretty brutal. Sinkers that start out over the plate at your head end up shaving the inner corner for a strike. Unless you're sitting on exactly that pitch, you're basically never going to hit it.
I think part of the problem is pinpoint, in its current iteration, makes it too easy to get a perfect result. I'm getting consistent perfects with like 78% motion accuracy. It should need to be like 95% or above. I love its addition to the game, because last year was a nightmare trying to pitch, but it needs some refinement. You can see it in the OPS's of people in CS and above. OPS's in the .700's when last year below 1.000 was a rarity. .700 and you weren't even smelling CS.
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@aaronjw76_psn said in HOF enjoyable?:
First game on HOF. 34 K's, 7 hits, 1 run. 13 innings.
I had Pedro. They had Edward.
I couldn't hit anything with heat. They couldn't hit anything offspeed.
This is enjoyable? Lol
I made it to DS and stopped playing Ranked. All star is way more fun
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Yeah that Edward Cabrera is nasty just faced him for the 1st time today 100 mph Sinker lord have mercy luckily I still won. Games on higher difficulty really can be pitcher duels who makes the 1st mistake gotta keep a cool head .
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@bobbyromano24 said in HOF enjoyable?:
@eatyum_psn said in HOF enjoyable?:
@bobbyromano24 said in HOF enjoyable?:
I just don’t understand why Edward Cabrera can consistently throw 100 mph sinkers but guys like Zack Wheeler and Jose Alvarado max out at 97 with their sinkers. And it also makes zero sense how a sinker acts NOTHING like a 2-seam FB in the game when they are the SAME PITCH in real life. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills! Doesn’t anybody else realize this?!? Ferrari, Le Tigre, Blue Steel, there all the same look!!!
Because Edward Cabrera has outlier on his sinker and those other guys don't.
It’s because they made his sinker 93-100 and the other guys 93-97. Alvarado throws everything 99-102 so there’s no reason for him to top out at 97. Wheeler also isn’t topping out at only 97 with his sinker, that’s his average velo. It’s poor programming. Another note: a 98 mph sinker should be the same perceived velocity as a 98 mph 4 seam, a 98 mph 2 seam, or a 98 mph cutter. Yet these pitches will feel like: sinker 102, 4 seam 98, 2 seam/cutter 94
I don't know why they got Archie Bradley CH averaging 70 mph in online rated games.
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Not at all.. unless you enjoy absolutely zero offense and 40 or so combined strike outs between both teams
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Another 3 hit, 34 strike out game.
Get me the F off this [censored] difficulty
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@eatyum_psn said in HOF enjoyable?:
@bobbyromano24 said in HOF enjoyable?:
@eatyum_psn said in HOF enjoyable?:
@bobbyromano24 said in HOF enjoyable?:
I just don’t understand why Edward Cabrera can consistently throw 100 mph sinkers but guys like Zack Wheeler and Jose Alvarado max out at 97 with their sinkers. And it also makes zero sense how a sinker acts NOTHING like a 2-seam FB in the game when they are the SAME PITCH in real life. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills! Doesn’t anybody else realize this?!? Ferrari, Le Tigre, Blue Steel, there all the same look!!!
Because Edward Cabrera has outlier on his sinker and those other guys don't.
It’s because they made his sinker 93-100 and the other guys 93-97. Alvarado throws everything 99-102 so there’s no reason for him to top out at 97. Wheeler also isn’t topping out at only 97 with his sinker, that’s his average velo. It’s poor programming. Another note: a 98 mph sinker should be the same perceived velocity as a 98 mph 4 seam, a 98 mph 2 seam, or a 98 mph cutter. Yet these pitches will feel like: sinker 102, 4 seam 98, 2 seam/cutter 94
It's because they gave Edward Cabrera the outlier quirk as I stated above....the outlier quirk allows a pitch to go past it's "max" velocity.
Just like Alvarado can go 102 on his fastball, he has outlier on that pitch.
It's not "poor" programming if it's intentional. Whether it should be that way is obviously debatable.
Wasn’t asking “how”, was asking “why?” I understand the outlier. Yes you’re right I shouldn’t have said poor programming because they programmed it correctly to work as they intended. But the fact that they intended to make it that way is where my issue the lies
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Me on HOF:
Except... I would have used contact swing for a double.
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Edward cabrera sinkers look like a blitzball the way it moves
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@aaronjw76_psn said in HOF enjoyable?:
First game on HOF. 34 K's, 7 hits, 1 run. 13 innings.
I had Pedro. They had Edward.
I couldn't hit anything with heat. They couldn't hit anything offspeed.
This is enjoyable? Lol
I played that 42 event on HOF to get the pack. It was awful grinding that out. No idea how anyone can enjoy HOF.
I will say I got more used to it over time and ended up winning like 6 in a row once I got better with the pitch speeds. But still, overall NOT fun basically having to guess at pitches half the time.
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HOF takes a little practice this year for sure. My first couple games were all 2-1, 3-2 type games. Now that I’ve strictly been playing there I can put together good offensive games. Still definitely have those low scoring games when facing guys like Grochett, Cabrera, but it opens up the more you play. A few games back I won a game 12-7. Part of the problem is it doesn’t seem like you get rewarded as much as you should on HOF for making solid contact.
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First game of new season I won 1-0 in the 10th. Glavine had 20 Ks for me. But I probably wouldve done better had I practiced first, got used to all star again from the event
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@cubandoctor21 said in HOF enjoyable?:
First game of new season I won 1-0 in the 10th. Glavine had 20 Ks for me. But I probably wouldve done better had I practiced first, got used to all star again from the event
This is true. Doing all kinds of different stuff in the game is the worst thing for RS gameplay. That’s why I usually grind one thing at a time and not go from one mode to the other
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I have not reached HOF yet. only played 15 games. so far undefeated, but i have not faced any competition whatsoever. looking forward to testing out HOF. looks more difficult than past years but i think it will be fun. pinpoint is kinda OP- this is the first time i’ve ever seen the meta dominated by pitching. Not realistic for almost every single pitch to be spotted on the black all game long
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@mitchhammond24 said in HOF enjoyable?:
I have not reached HOF yet. only played 15 games. so far undefeated, but i have not faced any competition whatsoever. looking forward to testing out HOF. looks more difficult than past years but i think it will be fun. pinpoint is kinda OP- this is the first time i’ve ever seen the meta dominated by pitching. Not realistic for almost every single pitch to be spotted on the black all game long
Lol you're one of the best players on the forum. You'll be fine
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@aaronjw76_psn said in HOF enjoyable?:
@mitchhammond24 said in HOF enjoyable?:
I have not reached HOF yet. only played 15 games. so far undefeated, but i have not faced any competition whatsoever. looking forward to testing out HOF. looks more difficult than past years but i think it will be fun. pinpoint is kinda OP- this is the first time i’ve ever seen the meta dominated by pitching. Not realistic for almost every single pitch to be spotted on the black all game long
Lol you're one of the best players on the forum. You'll be fine
preciate u but i wouldn’t say that. at least not after the bad year i had in 20 haha
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When they had the last event on HOF it was terrible. I have no interest in havin to play on HOF
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in HOF enjoyable?:
Some games are very frustrating but it just makes moments when you have a clutch home run or walk off hit that much more enjoyable. Just accept that you don’t have to win every single game to have fun. The weird YouTubers who sit in their room and have no social life or chance at feeling the touch of a woman go 95-2 and hit .400 on legend but is that really who you wanna be? The best clubs take 2 games out of 3 and are great but a 40-20 record is bad in the show? Nah man just have fun playing the game
Such a great statement.
