Why directional is trash for online...

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@stiebfan37_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

Zone hitting is the most unrealistic style of hitting in the game...yes it takes skill, I don't disagree, but zone hitters can reach balls that no directional hitter can reach, and no human being in real life could reach for tha matter...the down and in off the shoe laces hit...the 2 feet outside hit...the up and in almost hitting you in the head hit, a lot of those for homeruns....ya zone is realistic my [censored]...skill yes, realistic hell no.

The pci has a barrier...it can only go so far in a circle. You clearly have no clue what youre talking about.. if youre having balls hit way off plate or in dirt...thats directional.

So blindly swinging and just timing is realistic? No matter of whwre ball is??? Makes sense....

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I switched to directional last year. Haven't looked back. Was on Zone since MLB the show came out.

I use to be a Zone snob too. But no more. I like directional and the entire RNG arugment - well Zone this year is the most RNG from what I have seen from some of the top theshow gamers.

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@stiebfan37_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

Zone hitting is the most unrealistic style of hitting in the game...yes it takes skill, I don't disagree, but zone hitters can reach balls that no directional hitter can reach, and no human being in real life could reach for tha matter...the down and in off the shoe laces hit...the 2 feet outside hit...the up and in almost hitting you in the head hit, a lot of those for homeruns....ya zone is realistic my [censored]...skill yes, realistic hell no.

Im a directional guy now as I posted just above , but when it comes to realism, at the core, I think zone is realistic based on the simple argument :

Zone - you swing your ball at where the ball is pitched, like in real life.

Directional - you influence the ball with timing. So in real life, if I swing low at a ball high I will swing and miss. But in directional you influence it to be a grounder.

Again - this goes back to my Zone Snob days. But I'm a totally in on Directional now. Much more enjoyable for me as I age.

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@surfinsantacruz_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:

I switched to directional last year. Haven't looked back. Was on Zone since MLB the show came out.

I use to be a Zone snob too. But no more. I like directional and the entire RNG arugment - well Zone this year is the most RNG from what I have seen from some of the top theshow gamers.

I agree. Some years, zone is way better and more fun. Some years it is directional. So far, I think zone sucks this year. Offline only. I would never use directional online personally because anything up is basically an automatic out.

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@surfinsantacruz_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@stiebfan37_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

Zone hitting is the most unrealistic style of hitting in the game...yes it takes skill, I don't disagree, but zone hitters can reach balls that no directional hitter can reach, and no human being in real life could reach for tha matter...the down and in off the shoe laces hit...the 2 feet outside hit...the up and in almost hitting you in the head hit, a lot of those for homeruns....ya zone is realistic my [censored]...skill yes, realistic hell no.

Im a directional guy now as I posted just above , but when it comes to realism, at the core, I think zone is realistic based on the simple argument :

Zone - you swing your ball at where the ball is pitched, like in real life.

Directional - you influence the ball with timing. So in real life, if I swing low at a ball high I will swing and miss. But in directional you influence it to be a grounder.

Again - this goes back to my Zone Snob days. But I'm a totally in on Directional now. Much more enjoyable for me as I age.

This is true...which then caters to power swing and holding up and game rewards them w hrs.
The devs said last year not doin anything will have cpu aim for you and basically just timing.

I didnt say take it out of the game..i want it out for competitive online play....that rewards them w extra xp and such.

All diamonds w 99+ contact or power...requires zero skill.

With zone the pci gets smaller and gotta be even more accurate.

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All this argument when the one true way to hit for men and the one that makes the most sense swinging a baseball bat is Analog Stride.

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@thewooderboy_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:

I’m 35-5 using directional in online ranked lmao stop hating

He he
Exhibit 1.(?)

Now then......
How hard is it to start an APPROXIMATE timing window and then watch
For the attributes and algorithms to do the actual " playing" for you ??

You guys want to use that type mechanism, then have at it..AND do it against each other not skill based players.

We just want a way to isolate the tee ball boys out and away from the guys who actually Aim at the ball
With some sort of simulation of a bat .
There's plenty of players to go around... BUT the two different skill sets have no business in the same game whatsoever. Never will, never has.

Also to those saying the top players ( say top 20 in online rated for instance ) "ALL use zone"...
That is false and in a big way...
I will not out anybody by handle nor name but a fact IS a fact.
The no foul balls to speak of, and home run mashers out of no where toddler tee ball boys are indeed as I print this sitting in the top tiers on page ONE as I type.

Btw .what's worse(?))
The full game start out people who use that mess
OR...
The guys (& gals) who long pause and swap to tee ball hitting simply in essence because the opponent pitches good and they can't hit...OR when being behind they then get a man on base....you guessed it they pause and go to toddler tee ball and suddenly hit the game winning lick after striking out 15 times prior.
It's ridiculous to say the least and there also needs to be " a settings lock" to prevent these settings manipulative changes ,* except for " camera views".
I use mound visits every single time on defense and on offense " quick menu " at the plate ONLY as a way not for just for authenticity But foremost to show respect to the other player that I Am NOT one of the dime a dozen multitudes of "them" who will do anything to win games against faceless people who to top it off will give you NO prize !!
(Hmm how novel I know).
There's plenty of " me" and my type..but overall this game (just as the forum) has became over ran with the EXact depiction of this classless , tactless, and
The " me me me " generation filled society in which we unfortunately have to live.

  • Excuse the bold / large print - have no idea why, what, nor where.
    ( Old man problems )
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It’s hard to take these posts seriously. Opponents are puppies? Directional hitting is OP? Frustrated because opponents hit your “waste pitches”?

I guess even puppies can pick up your pitching sequences.

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@guccigangchuck said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

Directional (?))
Ya mean, what I refer to as -
" toddler TEE Ball " !

It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.

There needs to be isolation toggles just like there are for "guess pitch", difficulty and the other choices prior to an online game search.
{I've said this for years and years now btw}

I play authentic ball as in a chess match, but get matched up with a puppy who plays Chinese checkers and even has extra marbles !!
2 different games and has no business at the same table ( on the same screen ) together.
They have no foul balls and practically no base runners even....just skilless and ridiculous square button mashing home run derby's.

The " fools gold " of it all is they claim to be good, sit in the leaderboards, and some how THINK they are actually playing the game.
Not hardly.
Starting an approximate timing window and
then letting attributes and algorithms do all the work....
That's not " playing " by definition of the word in the slightest.
It's nothing more than
" Watching "
(and some hoping)

Playing a large number of those top leaderboard puppies that are there year after year is mostly laughable.
It's skilless manipulation based on attributes and algorithms not player skill in the slightest.

The mixing of the
" authentic players " with the toddler Tee ball boys in online play IS this games biggest short coming and farce.

bruh the top players use zone, no one at top of the leaderboards is rocking directional.

Using PCI gives you a huge advantage over directional. Those should be the easy wins for anyone using the PCI.

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@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@stiebfan37_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

Zone hitting is the most unrealistic style of hitting in the game...yes it takes skill, I don't disagree, but zone hitters can reach balls that no directional hitter can reach, and no human being in real life could reach for tha matter...the down and in off the shoe laces hit...the 2 feet outside hit...the up and in almost hitting you in the head hit, a lot of those for homeruns....ya zone is realistic my [censored]...skill yes, realistic hell no.

The pci has a barrier...it can only go so far in a circle. You clearly have no clue what youre talking about.. if youre having balls hit way off plate or in dirt...thats directional.

So blindly swinging and just timing is realistic? No matter of whwre ball is??? Makes sense....

Other way dude, with PCI you can reach any pitch, the barrier is way to wide and has been a complaint for years; people can foul off pitches or hit HRs on pitches they shouldn’t be able to reach.

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@halfbutt_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

It’s hard to take these posts seriously. Opponents are puppies? Directional hitting is OP? Frustrated because opponents hit your “waste pitches”?

I guess even puppies can pick up your pitching sequences.

Yeah he’s an old fart who speaks through his fart hole

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@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@thewooderboy_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:

I’m 35-5 using directional in online ranked lmao stop hating

He he
Exhibit 1.(?)

Now then......
How hard is it to start an APPROXIMATE timing window and then watch
For the attributes and algorithms to do the actual " playing" for you ??

You guys want to use that type mechanism, then have at it..AND do it against each other not skill based players.

We just want a way to isolate the tee ball boys out and away from the guys who actually Aim at the ball
With some sort of simulation of a bat .
There's plenty of players to go around... BUT the two different skill sets have no business in the same game whatsoever. Never will, never has.

Also to those saying the top players ( say top 20 in online rated for instance ) "ALL use zone"...
That is false and in a big way...
I will not out anybody by handle nor name but a fact IS a fact.
The no foul balls to speak of, and home run mashers out of no where toddler tee ball boys are indeed as I print this sitting in the top tiers on page ONE as I type.

Btw .what's worse(?))
The full game start out people who use that mess
OR...
The guys (& gals) who long pause and swap to tee ball hitting simply in essence because the opponent pitches good and they can't hit...OR when being behind they then get a man on base....you guessed it they pause and go to toddler tee ball and suddenly hit the game winning lick after striking out 15 times prior.
It's ridiculous to say the least and there also needs to be " a settings lock" to prevent these settings manipulative changes ,* except for " camera views".
I use mound visits every single time on defense and on offense " quick menu " at the plate ONLY as a way not for just for authenticity But foremost to show respect to the other player that I Am NOT one of the dime a dozen multitudes of "them" who will do anything to win games against faceless people who to top it off will give you NO prize !!
(Hmm how novel I know).
There's plenty of " me" and my type..but overall this game (just as the forum) has became over ran with the EXact depiction of this classless , tactless, and
The " me me me " generation filled society in which we unfortunately have to live.

  • Excuse the bold / large print - have no idea why, what, nor where.
    ( Old man problems )

Man stfu ain’t nobody reading that nonsense. Just take your loss to my directional using old head [censored] and move on lmao

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I was desperately trying to get off of Directional, but STILL have drop the PCI issues on Zone. Now that I see ppl made WS with directional, I'm going back! 🤪
No shame in my game.

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@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

Ya 0-2 waste pitches that get hit for hrs cuz they timed it perfectly even tho its 2 ft out of zone...or throwing fbs up and in all game and cant hit it then 0-2 throw one on outside down and away and they hit it?? Yup ok...its a joke. This game rewards ppl who dont even aim to hit.

Do you play COD with autoaim on???

A directional hitter can not hit a ball two feet out of the zone for a HR... would never happen

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@halfbutt_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

It’s hard to take these posts seriously. Opponents are puppies? Directional hitting is OP? Frustrated because opponents hit your “waste pitches”?

I guess even puppies can pick up your pitching sequences.

I agree! This is what i figured happened as well. I don't think i have faced a good pitcher in last 6 years. 8 out of 10 are out of zone, if you don't want to pitch in zone with right pitch to force groundball or pop fly then i say oh well take your lumps an move on.

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@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.

I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.

It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.

? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.

There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.

The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.

Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.

First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.

Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.

By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.

It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.

No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.

A chess board has no marbles.

"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.

  • Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
  • Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
  • Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
  • Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
  • Live and die by the three (basketball)
  • Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
  • Using directional hitting (The Show)
  • Using Zone Hitting (The Show)

I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.

So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.

FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.

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@joshjays44_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

All this argument when the one true way to hit for men and the one that makes the most sense swinging a baseball bat is Analog Stride.

Analog stride + zone....

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@yankblan_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@stiebfan37_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

Zone hitting is the most unrealistic style of hitting in the game...yes it takes skill, I don't disagree, but zone hitters can reach balls that no directional hitter can reach, and no human being in real life could reach for tha matter...the down and in off the shoe laces hit...the 2 feet outside hit...the up and in almost hitting you in the head hit, a lot of those for homeruns....ya zone is realistic my [censored]...skill yes, realistic hell no.

The pci has a barrier...it can only go so far in a circle. You clearly have no clue what youre talking about.. if youre having balls hit way off plate or in dirt...thats directional.

So blindly swinging and just timing is realistic? No matter of whwre ball is??? Makes sense....

Other way dude, with PCI you can reach any pitch, the barrier is way to wide and has been a complaint for years; people can foul off pitches or hit HRs on pitches they shouldn’t be able to reach.

Obviously you dont use zone. The pci can only go half way on all edges of zone. The inner pci.

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@thegoaler_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

I was desperately trying to get off of Directional, but STILL have drop the PCI issues on Zone. Now that I see ppl made WS with directional, I'm going back! 🤪
No shame in my game.

Go to practice and have it throw high to you only....then concentrate on holding that up. Also something that doesnt happen to directional users.

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@t00muchham_xbl said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:

It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.

I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.

It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.

? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.

There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.

The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.

Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.

First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.

Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.

By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.

It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.

No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.

A chess board has no marbles.

"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.

  • Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
  • Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
  • Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
  • Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
  • Live and die by the three (basketball)
  • Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
  • Using directional hitting (The Show)
  • Using Zone Hitting (The Show)

I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.

So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.

FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.

Your comparisons are ridiculous haha

Directional is cpu controlled aiming..

In madden itd be like lettung the cpu throw for you....run for you etc. All you do is snap.

Itd be like an online shooter and using aimbot and auto aim.