I hope SDS addresses this issue...
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I totally agree with u not imfor the punishment side... but enjoy it... is it frustrating those stats does not count ? Very... but believe in the same moral eay is so much better to take that W knowing the other guy is such a Ficking Shotty loser to do that kind of stuff
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You know, there is another aspect to this which just occurred to me, and that is, if you click X on “return to lobby” you can actually get tagged with the loss.
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Not sure how it’s considered cheating. They get the loss. I’m usually pretty happy when it happens. If I’m killing somebody now I don’t have to go through the whole game or press for the mercy rule. If it’s a close game there is no chance of me blowing it late because they quit and I got the win. On to the next game. I don’t recall it ever happening when I’m behind but I’d sure welcome that.
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@gypsyblack99 said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
I agree SDS should address this issue. The only problem is everyone seems to be confused about what the issue is. The issue isn't people dashboarding. The issue is that there are so many "unfair" glitches in the animations and game play when playing online. People trying to enjoy a video game get frustrated to the point of rage quitting. I don't blame anyone for dashboarding in any form of online play from 2016 to present. When someone dashboards against me I assume they have seen one too many of their outfielders slowly jogging when they should be sprinting or any of the many other game breaking glitches that seem to be the deciding factor in more than half the online games I've played (giving me wins and losses that weren't earned but a result of wonky animations). It seems to me much of this thread is directed at a symptom and not the actual cause.
People rage quit no matter the game, it could be completely perfect and people would still get mad. Yes the current game flaws add to this, but rage quits will never go away.
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It’s called rage quitting. It’s not cheating.
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@yankblan said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@abbyspapa said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@abbyspapa said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
I would agree that it does skew stats when they dashboard before the play finishes, but I just don't see how the game code could account for that.
Best suggestion would be to calculate how often it happens to you (say 10% of games) and then apply a 10% modifier to your player's stats.
It there are 2 questions...
Can’t the play that has started complete if the disconnect happens during the play, then allow the game to cease the game and disconnect?And, I’d like to see the opponents disconnections prior to committing my time to play them. Why is that not possible?
Thanks all!
Your second question should be much more possible than the first.
Allowing the play to complete would be difficult because you would need to determine when it happens once the ball is in play.
For example, if I'm in the middle of throwing a pitch and I disconnect, does the pitch still get thrown? Do you still get to hit it? If you hit a groundball or a flyball, who fields it?
Right now, once a disconnect happens the game just stops there.
Agreed. Thank you for continuing the discussion. It is important to me. I HATE CHEATING. I do believe it is cheating.
So a simple Win-Loss-Disconnections display of record before committing to play that opponent seems reasonable. No?
It is not cheating; you feel cheated out of a HR or whatever, sure, but it is not cheating because the loser gets an L and the winner a W. These are really slim issues compared to match making. It sucks, but these are just stats, plus, if you play Conquest, they are blended together so they're basically useless.
exactly
OP just feels entitled to getting that HR or double or run or whatever - ppl quit all the time, you get the W and you move on it aint rocket science - perhaps you just care way too much about things which don't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things
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@TheHungryHole said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@yankblan said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@abbyspapa said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@abbyspapa said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
I would agree that it does skew stats when they dashboard before the play finishes, but I just don't see how the game code could account for that.
Best suggestion would be to calculate how often it happens to you (say 10% of games) and then apply a 10% modifier to your player's stats.
It there are 2 questions...
Can’t the play that has started complete if the disconnect happens during the play, then allow the game to cease the game and disconnect?And, I’d like to see the opponents disconnections prior to committing my time to play them. Why is that not possible?
Thanks all!
Your second question should be much more possible than the first.
Allowing the play to complete would be difficult because you would need to determine when it happens once the ball is in play.
For example, if I'm in the middle of throwing a pitch and I disconnect, does the pitch still get thrown? Do you still get to hit it? If you hit a groundball or a flyball, who fields it?
Right now, once a disconnect happens the game just stops there.
Agreed. Thank you for continuing the discussion. It is important to me. I HATE CHEATING. I do believe it is cheating.
So a simple Win-Loss-Disconnections display of record before committing to play that opponent seems reasonable. No?
It is not cheating; you feel cheated out of a HR or whatever, sure, but it is not cheating because the loser gets an L and the winner a W. These are really slim issues compared to match making. It sucks, but these are just stats, plus, if you play Conquest, they are blended together so they're basically useless.
exactly
OP just feels entitled to getting that HR or double or run or whatever - ppl quit all the time, you get the W and you move on it aint rocket science - perhaps you just care way too much about things which don't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things
To be fair, if you hit a HR, you are entitled to the HR. It's only because the stats don't mean anything that I feel it's a non-issue.
If player stats actually mean something in '20 or a future version of the game, then it should certainly be fixed in some way.
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@abbyspapa said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@TheHungryHole said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@yankblan said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@abbyspapa said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@abbyspapa said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
I would agree that it does skew stats when they dashboard before the play finishes, but I just don't see how the game code could account for that.
Best suggestion would be to calculate how often it happens to you (say 10% of games) and then apply a 10% modifier to your player's stats.
It there are 2 questions...
Can’t the play that has started complete if the disconnect happens during the play, then allow the game to cease the game and disconnect?And, I’d like to see the opponents disconnections prior to committing my time to play them. Why is that not possible?
Thanks all!
Your second question should be much more possible than the first.
Allowing the play to complete would be difficult because you would need to determine when it happens once the ball is in play.
For example, if I'm in the middle of throwing a pitch and I disconnect, does the pitch still get thrown? Do you still get to hit it? If you hit a groundball or a flyball, who fields it?
Right now, once a disconnect happens the game just stops there.
Agreed. Thank you for continuing the discussion. It is important to me. I HATE CHEATING. I do believe it is cheating.
So a simple Win-Loss-Disconnections display of record before committing to play that opponent seems reasonable. No?
It is not cheating; you feel cheated out of a HR or whatever, sure, but it is not cheating because the loser gets an L and the winner a W. These are really slim issues compared to match making. It sucks, but these are just stats, plus, if you play Conquest, they are blended together so they're basically useless.
exactly
OP just feels entitled to getting that HR or double or run or whatever - ppl quit all the time, you get the W and you move on it aint rocket science - perhaps you just care way too much about things which don't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things
To be fair, if you hit a HR, you are entitled to the HR. It's only because the stats don't mean anything that I feel it's a non-issue.
If player stats actually mean something in '20 or a future version of the game, then it should certainly be fixed in some way.
absolutely i mean there were good take aways from his post i agree with you guys on that ive had probably 2 grand slams taken away from me this past year bc of that bull quit stuff
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@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
So, let me get this straight.
You’re complaining about getting a win?
And you want people to get punished even more for losing?
Am I complaining about a win bro? For real? I am bringing up the point of out right cheating and that’s it. It’s less about the W/L and more about the cheating and skewing of players stats both for a positive stat and a negative one.
Is that not your view for some reason?
how is it cheating when you get the win?
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@aaronjw76 said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
So, let me get this straight.
You’re complaining about getting a win?
And you want people to get punished even more for losing?
Am I complaining about a win bro? For real? I am bringing up the point of out right cheating and that’s it. It’s less about the W/L and more about the cheating and skewing of players stats both for a positive stat and a negative one.
Is that not your view for some reason?how is it cheating when you get the win?
Hey, the 2017 Astros lost 61 games while cheating.
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@gypsyblack99 said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
I agree SDS should address this issue. The only problem is everyone seems to be confused about what the issue is. The issue isn't people dashboarding. The issue is that there are so many "unfair" glitches in the animations and game play when playing online. People trying to enjoy a video game get frustrated to the point of rage quitting. I don't blame anyone for dashboarding in any form of online play from 2016 to present. When someone dashboards against me I assume they have seen one too many of their outfielders slowly jogging when they should be sprinting or any of the many other game breaking glitches that seem to be the deciding factor in more than half the online games I've played (giving me wins and losses that weren't earned but a result of wonky animations). It seems to me much of this thread is directed at a symptom and not the actual cause.
LOL it's the game's fault you dashboard?
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@LankyRyan said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@gypsyblack99 said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
I agree SDS should address this issue. The only problem is everyone seems to be confused about what the issue is. The issue isn't people dashboarding. The issue is that there are so many "unfair" glitches in the animations and game play when playing online. People trying to enjoy a video game get frustrated to the point of rage quitting. I don't blame anyone for dashboarding in any form of online play from 2016 to present. When someone dashboards against me I assume they have seen one too many of their outfielders slowly jogging when they should be sprinting or any of the many other game breaking glitches that seem to be the deciding factor in more than half the online games I've played (giving me wins and losses that weren't earned but a result of wonky animations). It seems to me much of this thread is directed at a symptom and not the actual cause.
LOL it's the game's fault you dashboard?
lolllll the mental gymnastics some of these guys are running through is almost unreal
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Looks like stat missions are going to be back. This thread is relevant again? Lol
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@MrGamebred said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
Looks like stat missions are going to be back. This thread is relevant again? Lol
People working on their Prestige Helton will be pissed with dashboarders stealing their stats!
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@abbyspapa said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
People working on their Prestige Helton will be pissed with dashboarders stealing their stats!
Lol. I know I won't loose sleep over it. But it'd be pretty cool if there was a way to fix it. if they didn't in the past, not sure what they could do now either though.
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Maybe it is cheating now...
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Other games out there penalize for games disconnect like nba2k I don’t know the word for word but I remember it saying it wouldn’t be matched if I continued a pattern of quitting early. What’s even worse to me is someone quits for no reason. No score. Maybe they got a man on 2nd base. If they don’t get some sort of run they will quit. If if they throw everything in dirt and get mad when you have 2 straight walks then quit. Yeah you win but it’s annoying
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@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
@yankblan said in I hope SDS addresses this issue...:
The technique is simple: you hold home button and power off the console; that's why it's easy and happens fast.
Not proud of it, did it mabye 3-4 times this year out of close to a thousand games; usually when I should have laid off the game for a couple hours to cool off.
So why not just take the Loss? Laying off a game you shouldn’t have started is no excuse for disconnecting during a play... I will never understand any rational for that. It’s cheating. Sorry bro, it’s not something to be justified. Happy you manned up, but please for the sake of the game and your own reputation, stop!
It’s most definitely NOT cheating!! I hate it too but, I’ve quit plenty of games! In fact the majority of my losses are quits. But I’ve never rage quit so someone didn’t get credit for a home run. But honestly, there’s no difference, a quit is a quit!!
I think a much more pressing issue are the zillions of idiots that abuse R2.
