With the shortened 60 game season
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@pogibana said in With the shortened 60 game season:
the salary thing really irritates me. while 30 million plus people out there lost their jobs and are waiting hour in line just to get food for their family these players take a partial salary and whine about it. They make me sick.
It’s easy to lash out at the players but the owners are really the ones who have created this problem. The only difference is they have the luxury of being anonymous while players are the ones in public view.
Yes it is extremely distasteful to have these guys arguing over these amounts of money when other people don’t even have a job but other than a small percentage of players who make an incredible living most have short careers, pay an agent, travel 8 to 9 months a year and do not make nearly what the average person thinks they do. Especially minor leaguers and for that matter the reason those guys work so hard and takes such little money is for the hope and dream of getting to the majors. Otherwise where is the incentive?
I will say if Tony Clark had worked over the past several years of building a better relationship with major league baseball he would’ve had some foothold if something like this ever happened, but he has made no effort to build such a relationship and everything baseball has ever proposed, from pace of play rules and other changes here are there to the current format to make the game more modern, he has shot down so there was no foundation to start from. -
@pogibana said in With the shortened 60 game season:
the salary thing really irritates me. while 30 million plus people out there lost their jobs and are waiting hour in line just to get food for their family these players take a partial salary and whine about it. They make me sick.
Exactly bro
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So clueless, the players DID DID DID take a pay cut already.....now asked to take another. Ask yourself why won't the owners open the financial book to the public, answer....because it be revealed the millions upon millions they make each year even after all expenses are diddy up. Why should players walk away from an agreement that owners were all on before things went worse. If your employer promised your a hundred k bonus at end of year in January , you sign the paperwork and come may altered that to ten thousand.....would you actually be fine with that....would you?
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60 games would be a joke.....little more than spring training. Not interested personally.
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Two things I know to be true:
- Players do not realize that Owners hold all the chips. Period. The Owners and League, in the end, mo matter what, have all the control. The players ultimately have no leverage without the League (hence the need for the MLBPA). If the League were to shutdown completely, what would the players do? Go to Japan? Go to Korea? Chop Lumber? Bag Groceries? Tryout for Football? Drive Uber?
Meanwhile the owners would still be Billionaires and find another venture to lose money on. The sheer existence of the League is the ultimate bargaining chip and the Owners are the Farmers, and the Players are merely Cattle.
- Growing up a Marlins fan between 1993 and 2012, I saw the ugliest underside that baseball owners can have: immeasurable greed. Jeffrey Loria and David Sampson found a way to field a loser year after year and line their pockets by raking more money as a "small market team" through collective bargaining. It's like the movie the Producers; the worse the Team did, the more money Loria made. (And I hear Jeter has continued this wonderful tradition of Marlins ownership.)
For these two reasons, I found the Players attempts both honorable, and laughable. Their "power" at the negotiating table is merely an illusion.
Either way, let's "play ball"!
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Are there going to be trades this season?
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I honestly don't really care if they play or not, I've watched Baseball for 30+ years and how both sides have acted is just sickening to me. I hope they get a marlins/orioles world series, see how many people watch that lol
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@krazy-kajun77 said in With the shortened 60 game season:
So clueless, the players DID DID DID take a pay cut already.....now asked to take another. Ask yourself why won't the owners open the financial book to the public, answer....because it be revealed the millions upon millions they make each year even after all expenses are diddy up. Why should players walk away from an agreement that owners were all on before things went worse. If your employer promised your a hundred k bonus at end of year in January , you sign the paperwork and come may altered that to ten thousand.....would you actually be fine with that....would you?
Well I guess the ball players should quit and go pursue other lucrative opportunities.
I will say this, the owners are to blame in as much as they have for whatever reason allowed this union and the "workers" to dictate as long and as much as they have.
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@baboonishace said in With the shortened 60 game season:
I honestly don't really care if they play or not, I've watched Baseball for 30+ years and how both sides have acted is just sickening to me. I hope they get a marlins/orioles world series, see how many people watch that lol
I agree, this is worthless. More than likely I will not watch. Im less of a fan everyday and this WAS my favorite sport. Not so much anymore.
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You make 40k a year but your business has to be closed because of the virus. You and your employer agree that you’ll get prorated pay based on how many days you’re open, when you’re open. Right before the business is about to reopen, your billionaire boss says, “sorry, I know we agreed to full prorated pay, but we’re actually going to give you 60 percent of that.”
Welp, it’s your fault I guess.
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Make so to donate to Blake Snells go fund me page. What a warrior risking injury for only 6 million dollars or whatever he’s getting smh
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The majority of players will make well under 100k for the remainder of the season, due to the March agreement payout. I saw players with under 2 years of service time will make 25k for the 60 game season. You if are made at how the sides are acting the good riddance! Probably just a plan distraction from how they are going to deal with the Coronavirus anyways.
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A 60 game season will be like a Battle Royale with real humans.
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@bhall09 said in With the shortened 60 game season:
You make 40k a year but your business has to be closed because of the virus. You and your employer agree that you’ll get prorated pay based on how many days you’re open, when you’re open. Right before the business is about to reopen, your billionaire boss says, “sorry, I know we agreed to full prorated pay, but we’re actually going to give you 60 percent of that.”
Welp, it’s your fault I guess.
Yeah, you greedy person you, for wanting more than 22% of your contacted salary!
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