Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?

SDS

Diamond dynasty is an online mode that requires an active connection to servers to access.

Requiring online stats to upgrade a card +3 is entirely reasonable IMO.

SDS

because people would just play the Rockies on rookie mode and literally prestige everyone in one game. not that hard to figure it out.

I don’t like playing offline. and there are plenty of cards i want that I can only get by doing stupid moments or conquest or any of those boring offline modes. do I make a complaint post? no.

SDS

@DrIuigi said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

yet the Devs have went back to requiring online play to unlock some of the best cards (prestiges) just like in '17.

In order to get Hardware Griffey, you had to win a whole truckload of Ranked games, Event games, BR games, not to mention do that crazy 4 H/1 HR mission which opponents would actively try to sc**w you out of.

And that's not even mentioning all the Pepe Alazar nonsense.

In 20, you have to grind online to get a tweaked version of a card you already have.

These are NOT similar.

SDS

@DrIuigi said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

So my last post got removed, and probably rightfully so as it was a bit of a bitchfest.....

This does not mean that the core question shouldn't be addressed. SDS streams last year boasted about how you "no longer had to play online as all content can be accessed online or offline" yet the Devs have went back to requiring online play to unlock some of the best cards (prestiges) just like in '17.

I deal with people all day and many times am exhausted, I don't want to come on MLB to relax only to deal with a 14 year old that acts like an 8 year old just so I can work towards a card I want. You've already committed to going towards me being able to relax offline, and pulled the "bait and switch" this year.

@Collin_SDS

Maybe since you have already read this since you're the one that removed the original post you could address it instead of just removing my old post?

P.S. Currently 20-10 in the event, I'm not horrible online, I just rarely enjoy it (unless I've been drinking)

P.P.S. Make the stats needed 3 times what I'd need if I just did it online, just give me an alternative

So I can't stand grinding or playing against cpu. Don't much care for playing other people with their bad connections but have to find stuff to make this enjoyable. That being said, I do think they need this option for people that like to play against the cpu only. However, the stats would need to be grossly adjusted. There would have to be some research done but something around 10x more for offline. Huge difference racking up stats against rookie cpu and all star/hof against real people.

SDS

Because playstation wants you to buy the online service on top of your standard internet cost

SDS

He makes a good point. SDS did say in the streams last year that you would be able to achieve everything on or offline. And I totally understand not wanting to deal with R2 holders, bunt dancers, Game draggers, ect. Unfortunately these types of players seem to be 1/3 to 1/2 of all online players.

SDS

@TooGood3434 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

Because playstation wants you to buy the online service on top of your standard internet cost

That guy gets it.

SDS

I look at it like this:

No one is entitled to have every card in the game.

You say you hate playing online (meaning H2H). There are many others who hate playing the CPU; they hate conquest and they hate moments.

Think of how many cards are tied to Conquest and Moments? If the guys that hate playing the CPU want those cards, they have to suck it up and play the CPU.

The flip side of that is, if you want Prestige Diamonds, you have to suck it up and play H2H.

Of course, you could forgo those Prestige Diamonds, and just enjoy the game modes you prefer.

I say this with all due respect. I’m not trying to be a [censored] about it at all. I’m one of the people that hate playing the CPU, and I would complain about having to do so.

But I finally accepted that there are cards that I just won’t get, because I don’t like Moments. It’s simple as that for me.

I hope you find peace and enjoyment with the game, bro.

SDS

@DriveByTrucker17 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

“Play how you want” unless you just want to Prestige a card, then you have to play exactly how we want you to with absolutely no other options.

And for almost all other programs and missions they give the online/offline option as a nod to this exact point, but then nothing on the prestige. I can also understand the opposite point of the “sb in conquest only by dodgers,” like why?

SDS

@loshbomb said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

I think tying prestige to online play is a good idea. If you play offline, +3 in everything probably isn’t that meaningful anyway.

Exactly you could have your prestige guy bat on rookie in the 4 hole load the bases up and then crank a bomb and then quit and get all those stats fast

SDS

How about they reward ranked and br players with prestiged cards and everyone else have to grind to earn the same cards. PvP players get a reward that is worthy of their achievements as well as a way to profit. Those that don’t want to grind can buy the card. Doing things this way would prevent cards from being locked behind pvp and give grinders something to achieve.

SDS

@ballistic911 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

How about they reward ranked and br players with prestiged cards and everyone else have to grind to earn the same cards. PvP players get a reward that is worthy of their achievements as well as a way to profit. Those that don’t want to grind can buy the card. Doing things this way would prevent cards from being locked behind pvp and give grinders something to achieve.

I like it. Cuz again to each his own, I don’t care to play pvp and others don’t like cpu.

SDS

@maurice91932 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

I look at it like this:

No one is entitled to have every card in the game.

You say you hate playing online (meaning H2H). There are many others who hate playing the CPU; they hate conquest and they hate moments.

Think of how many cards are tied to Conquest and Moments? If the guys that hate playing the CPU want those cards, they have to suck it up and play the CPU.

The flip side of that is, if you want Prestige Diamonds, you have to suck it up and play H2H.

Of course, you could forgo those Prestige Diamonds, and just enjoy the game modes you prefer.

I say this with all due respect. I’m not trying to be a [censored] about it at all. I’m one of the people that hate playing the CPU, and I would complain about having to do so.

But I finally accepted that there are cards that I just won’t get, because I don’t like Moments. It’s simple as that for me.

I hope you find peace and enjoyment with the game, bro.

There's a big difference between offline only and online only content. The online only content is usually some of the best in the game (think Ruth last year for example). And, I'm ok with this as that is where their core players (and money) come from. I just don't think it's a 1-1 comparison like you're making it out to be.

Also, for offline only players, it's not just a matter of "sucking it up" for some of us. Between my DSL connection (I live in the sticks and don't have access to cable), and my aging eyes/reflexes, I can't hit online. Yes, I do avoid it because of the morons, but I also avoid it because I tend to strike out or get weak contact every AB.

I'm not too disappointed with not being able to do prestige. I just hope that I will have a chance to get this year's Ruth.

SDS

@JoeStraz14 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

@maurice91932 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

I look at it like this:

No one is entitled to have every card in the game.

You say you hate playing online (meaning H2H). There are many others who hate playing the CPU; they hate conquest and they hate moments.

Think of how many cards are tied to Conquest and Moments? If the guys that hate playing the CPU want those cards, they have to suck it up and play the CPU.

The flip side of that is, if you want Prestige Diamonds, you have to suck it up and play H2H.

Of course, you could forgo those Prestige Diamonds, and just enjoy the game modes you prefer.

I say this with all due respect. I’m not trying to be a [censored] about it at all. I’m one of the people that hate playing the CPU, and I would complain about having to do so.

But I finally accepted that there are cards that I just won’t get, because I don’t like Moments. It’s simple as that for me.

I hope you find peace and enjoyment with the game, bro.

There's a big difference between offline only and online only content. The online only content is usually some of the best in the game (think Ruth last year for example). And, I'm ok with this as that is where their core players (and money) come from. I just don't think it's a 1-1 comparison like you're making it out to be.

Also, for offline only players, it's not just a matter of "sucking it up" for some of us. Between my DSL connection (I live in the sticks and don't have access to cable), and my aging eyes/reflexes, I can't hit online. Yes, I do avoid it because of the morons, but I also avoid it because I tend to strike out or get weak contact every AB.

I'm not too disappointed with not being able to do prestige. I just hope that I will have a chance to get this year's Ruth.

I hear you. But maybe you can help me understand something. Serious question(s) here:

If someone doesn’t like playing other people, and prefers to just play against the CPU, why play Diamond Dynasty at all?

All the cards available in DD can be used in Franchise Mode. You can literally put any player you want on your team. You can even edit their attributes and “prestige” them in a matter of seconds.

You can choose difficulty level, you can adjust sliders; in short, you can customize every aspect of the game to make it the most enjoyable for yourself. So if someone likes playing the CPU, why go through all the trouble of DD at all?

SDS

@maurice91932 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

I look at it like this:

No one is entitled to have every card in the game.

You say you hate playing online (meaning H2H). There are many others who hate playing the CPU; they hate conquest and they hate moments.

Think of how many cards are tied to Conquest and Moments? If the guys that hate playing the CPU want those cards, they have to suck it up and play the CPU.

The flip side of that is, if you want Prestige Diamonds, you have to suck it up and play H2H.

Of course, you could forgo those Prestige Diamonds, and just enjoy the game modes you prefer.

I say this with all due respect. I’m not trying to be a [censored] about it at all. I’m one of the people that hate playing the CPU, and I would complain about having to do so.

But I finally accepted that there are cards that I just won’t get, because I don’t like Moments. It’s simple as that for me.

I hope you find peace and enjoyment with the game, bro.

This man gets it.

SDS

@maurice91932 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

@JoeStraz14 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

@maurice91932 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

I look at it like this:

No one is entitled to have every card in the game.

You say you hate playing online (meaning H2H). There are many others who hate playing the CPU; they hate conquest and they hate moments.

Think of how many cards are tied to Conquest and Moments? If the guys that hate playing the CPU want those cards, they have to suck it up and play the CPU.

The flip side of that is, if you want Prestige Diamonds, you have to suck it up and play H2H.

Of course, you could forgo those Prestige Diamonds, and just enjoy the game modes you prefer.

I say this with all due respect. I’m not trying to be a [censored] about it at all. I’m one of the people that hate playing the CPU, and I would complain about having to do so.

But I finally accepted that there are cards that I just won’t get, because I don’t like Moments. It’s simple as that for me.

I hope you find peace and enjoyment with the game, bro.

There's a big difference between offline only and online only content. The online only content is usually some of the best in the game (think Ruth last year for example). And, I'm ok with this as that is where their core players (and money) come from. I just don't think it's a 1-1 comparison like you're making it out to be.

Also, for offline only players, it's not just a matter of "sucking it up" for some of us. Between my DSL connection (I live in the sticks and don't have access to cable), and my aging eyes/reflexes, I can't hit online. Yes, I do avoid it because of the morons, but I also avoid it because I tend to strike out or get weak contact every AB.

I'm not too disappointed with not being able to do prestige. I just hope that I will have a chance to get this year's Ruth.

I hear you. But maybe you can help me understand something. Serious question(s) here:

If someone doesn’t like playing other people, and prefers to just play against the CPU, why play Diamond Dynasty at all?

All the cards available in DD can be used in Franchise Mode. You can literally put any player you want on your team. You can even edit their attributes and “prestige” them in a matter of seconds.

You can choose difficulty level, you can adjust sliders; in short, you can customize every aspect of the game to make it the most enjoyable for yourself. So if someone likes playing the CPU, why go through all the trouble of DD at all?

I really enjoy DD. I like the missions, I like the goals, I like the collections. I'm one who's a completion junkie, so I've been grinding March to Octobers for the affinity points in stage 1, then using showdowns to complete stage 2. I've also completed a lot of the programs for the stubs to help me with my collections. This is where offline only gets tough because stub sources aren't that plentiful. I resigned to selling my program rewards to help me here. I also really enjoy conquest.

There is plenty for offline only players to do in DD that can't be accomplished in franchise or Road to the Show.

SDS

@maurice91932 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

@JoeStraz14 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

@maurice91932 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

I look at it like this:

No one is entitled to have every card in the game.

You say you hate playing online (meaning H2H). There are many others who hate playing the CPU; they hate conquest and they hate moments.

Think of how many cards are tied to Conquest and Moments? If the guys that hate playing the CPU want those cards, they have to suck it up and play the CPU.

The flip side of that is, if you want Prestige Diamonds, you have to suck it up and play H2H.

Of course, you could forgo those Prestige Diamonds, and just enjoy the game modes you prefer.

I say this with all due respect. I’m not trying to be a [censored] about it at all. I’m one of the people that hate playing the CPU, and I would complain about having to do so.

But I finally accepted that there are cards that I just won’t get, because I don’t like Moments. It’s simple as that for me.

I hope you find peace and enjoyment with the game, bro.

There's a big difference between offline only and online only content. The online only content is usually some of the best in the game (think Ruth last year for example). And, I'm ok with this as that is where their core players (and money) come from. I just don't think it's a 1-1 comparison like you're making it out to be.

Also, for offline only players, it's not just a matter of "sucking it up" for some of us. Between my DSL connection (I live in the sticks and don't have access to cable), and my aging eyes/reflexes, I can't hit online. Yes, I do avoid it because of the morons, but I also avoid it because I tend to strike out or get weak contact every AB.

I'm not too disappointed with not being able to do prestige. I just hope that I will have a chance to get this year's Ruth.

I hear you. But maybe you can help me understand something. Serious question(s) here:

If someone doesn’t like playing other people, and prefers to just play against the CPU, why play Diamond Dynasty at all?

All the cards available in DD can be used in Franchise Mode. You can literally put any player you want on your team. You can even edit their attributes and “prestige” them in a matter of seconds.

You can choose difficulty level, you can adjust sliders; in short, you can customize every aspect of the game to make it the most enjoyable for yourself. So if someone likes playing the CPU, why go through all the trouble of DD at all?

I get you are asking a serious question here, but man does this seriously discount nearly everything about the mode that is attractive about the mode. Yes, playing the game is fun, but to me, collecting cards, completing programs, collections, working the market to name a few of the things that provide a sense of accomplishment is why cpu people play.

I have said before, I would personally be fine if they had two sets of cards if you wanted to play pvp or cpu only. Understand that will never happen tho.

SDS

@JoeStraz14 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

@maurice91932 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

@JoeStraz14 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

@maurice91932 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

I look at it like this:

No one is entitled to have every card in the game.

You say you hate playing online (meaning H2H). There are many others who hate playing the CPU; they hate conquest and they hate moments.

Think of how many cards are tied to Conquest and Moments? If the guys that hate playing the CPU want those cards, they have to suck it up and play the CPU.

The flip side of that is, if you want Prestige Diamonds, you have to suck it up and play H2H.

Of course, you could forgo those Prestige Diamonds, and just enjoy the game modes you prefer.

I say this with all due respect. I’m not trying to be a [censored] about it at all. I’m one of the people that hate playing the CPU, and I would complain about having to do so.

But I finally accepted that there are cards that I just won’t get, because I don’t like Moments. It’s simple as that for me.

I hope you find peace and enjoyment with the game, bro.

There's a big difference between offline only and online only content. The online only content is usually some of the best in the game (think Ruth last year for example). And, I'm ok with this as that is where their core players (and money) come from. I just don't think it's a 1-1 comparison like you're making it out to be.

Also, for offline only players, it's not just a matter of "sucking it up" for some of us. Between my DSL connection (I live in the sticks and don't have access to cable), and my aging eyes/reflexes, I can't hit online. Yes, I do avoid it because of the morons, but I also avoid it because I tend to strike out or get weak contact every AB.

I'm not too disappointed with not being able to do prestige. I just hope that I will have a chance to get this year's Ruth.

I hear you. But maybe you can help me understand something. Serious question(s) here:

If someone doesn’t like playing other people, and prefers to just play against the CPU, why play Diamond Dynasty at all?

All the cards available in DD can be used in Franchise Mode. You can literally put any player you want on your team. You can even edit their attributes and “prestige” them in a matter of seconds.

You can choose difficulty level, you can adjust sliders; in short, you can customize every aspect of the game to make it the most enjoyable for yourself. So if someone likes playing the CPU, why go through all the trouble of DD at all?

I really enjoy DD. I like the missions, I like the goals, I like the collections. I'm one who's a completion junkie, so I've been grinding March to Octobers for the affinity points in stage 1, then using showdowns to complete stage 2. I've also completed a lot of the programs for the stubs to help me with my collections. This is where offline only gets tough because stub sources aren't that plentiful. I resigned to selling my program rewards to help me here. I also really enjoy conquest.

There is plenty for offline only players to do in DD that can't be accomplished in franchise or Road to the Show.

No, this man gets it.

SDS

@Abvid said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

@maurice91932 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

@JoeStraz14 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

@maurice91932 said in Why are Prestige cards tied to Online stats?:

I look at it like this:

No one is entitled to have every card in the game.

You say you hate playing online (meaning H2H). There are many others who hate playing the CPU; they hate conquest and they hate moments.

Think of how many cards are tied to Conquest and Moments? If the guys that hate playing the CPU want those cards, they have to suck it up and play the CPU.

The flip side of that is, if you want Prestige Diamonds, you have to suck it up and play H2H.

Of course, you could forgo those Prestige Diamonds, and just enjoy the game modes you prefer.

I say this with all due respect. I’m not trying to be a [censored] about it at all. I’m one of the people that hate playing the CPU, and I would complain about having to do so.

But I finally accepted that there are cards that I just won’t get, because I don’t like Moments. It’s simple as that for me.

I hope you find peace and enjoyment with the game, bro.

There's a big difference between offline only and online only content. The online only content is usually some of the best in the game (think Ruth last year for example). And, I'm ok with this as that is where their core players (and money) come from. I just don't think it's a 1-1 comparison like you're making it out to be.

Also, for offline only players, it's not just a matter of "sucking it up" for some of us. Between my DSL connection (I live in the sticks and don't have access to cable), and my aging eyes/reflexes, I can't hit online. Yes, I do avoid it because of the morons, but I also avoid it because I tend to strike out or get weak contact every AB.

I'm not too disappointed with not being able to do prestige. I just hope that I will have a chance to get this year's Ruth.

I hear you. But maybe you can help me understand something. Serious question(s) here:

If someone doesn’t like playing other people, and prefers to just play against the CPU, why play Diamond Dynasty at all?

All the cards available in DD can be used in Franchise Mode. You can literally put any player you want on your team. You can even edit their attributes and “prestige” them in a matter of seconds.

You can choose difficulty level, you can adjust sliders; in short, you can customize every aspect of the game to make it the most enjoyable for yourself. So if someone likes playing the CPU, why go through all the trouble of DD at all?

I get you are asking a serious question here, but man does this seriously discount nearly everything about the mode that is attractive about the mode. Yes, playing the game is fun, but to me, collecting cards, completing programs, collections, working the market to name a few of the things that provide a sense of accomplishment is why cpu people play.

I have said before, I would personally be fine if they had two sets of cards if you wanted to play pvp or cpu only. Understand that will never happen tho.

So it’s the collecting part that people enjoy. It isn’t that the card you earn will improve your team, it’s that collecting a card provides a sense of accomplishment. Ok. I can understand that.

What I don’t understand is, you feel less accomplished if you don’t get every card?

I don’t know, bro. That kind of sounds like a personal hang up. I’m not discounting the way you or anyone else feels about it. I’m just saying that at some point, we have to accept that we aren’t going to get every card.

That is the downside of them releasing more and more cards and more and more game modes and more and more content every year. It makes it near impossible to accomplish everything. And people with the 100% completion, OCD type of thing when it comes to gaming are going to be disappointed when they can’t get everything.

SDS

Think I already said this but like with CAPs, make the offline requirement 3x the online requirement. Seems fair to me.