Starters as relievers
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It's so bad. There is no longer a reward for running up a pitch count to get into the pen. Nice job, now here comes Kluber.
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@Ch-76-1908 said in Starters as relievers:
It's so bad. There is no longer a reward for running up a pitch count to get into the pen. Nice job, now here comes Kluber.
You can bring Kluber in out of the pen, too.
And for the record, I’ve played about 70+ RS games, and I’ve brought a starter out of the pen twice.
I think this is a losing battle. Those who don’t like it don’t have to do it, but better believe many of your opponents will. So I’m looking at it as a “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” type of a thing.
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@maurice91932 said in Starters as relievers:
@Ch-76-1908 said in Starters as relievers:
It's so bad. There is no longer a reward for running up a pitch count to get into the pen. Nice job, now here comes Kluber.
You can bring Kluber in out of the pen, too.
And for the record, I’ve played about 70+ RS games, and I’ve brought a starter out of the pen twice.
I think this is a losing battle. Those who don’t like it don’t have to do it, but better believe many of your opponents will. So I’m looking at it as a “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” type of a thing.
Yes I know I can. But I refuse to. I like playing the game in a more traditional way. Ya I might be putting myself at a bit of a competitive disadvantage but I'm ok with that.
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How about If a starter appears in relief he can’t start the next game?
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@NatsChampions19 said in Starters as relievers:
@maurice91932 said in Starters as relievers:
There is nothing wrong with starters out of the pen.
This is Ranked Seasons. People are trying to win stubs, XP, and card rewards. They should have their entire 25-man roster available to them in anyway they see fit.
There are no rules in MLB that prevent a manager from using a player however they want. Position player as pitcher? Why not? A pitcher used as a pinch hitter or pinch runner? Go for it. Whatever you think will help you win the game. SDS did the correct thing by allowing us to do this.
What difference does it make if your opponent uses a SP out of the pen? Your job at the plate is to get hits. Period. Starter, Relief, Closer—it makes no difference. Do your job.
But I will say that if SDS wanted to reduce the usage of SPs out of the pen, they have to release better relievers. I think Rollie is the only reliever over 90. At least he’s all I can think of at the moment.
This post is embarrassing on so many levels. The only time you rarely see starters come out of the bullpen during the regular season is during marathon extra inning games or true emergencies. It should not be routine in online play.
Have you ever watched postseason (aka must win) games. Last year in the world series Corbin came into relief many times. Chris Sale closed out the world series in 2018. Even in the division series Kershaw was brought in during the 8th inning(unfortunately he gave up back to back hr) . Online games are not "regular season games" where wins don't matter as much, so it does make sense to bring in your best pitchers when ever you want.
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I think it cheapens the value of your bullpen. I’m fine with using starters in relief but only after you’ve used all your relievers. I don’t work counts against Kluber for 7 innings only to have Oswalt to come in after I get him out of the game. Plus, I’m sick of facing the same 4 pitchers every game. There can be a balance between competitiveness and sportsmanship and between freedom of choice and realism.
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Part of relief pitching is not knowing what's going to happen, as a relief pitcher. Starting pitchers prepare for and are ready to throw 6- 7+ innings. That's why I'm okay with reliever confidence being lower. I play mostly offline and haven't seen or tried bringing in a starter as a reliever, but I'm going to try today. We could think about the preparation that starters go through both before a start and before coming in for relief to see if energy and confidence for starters matches well with the stretching, throwing and exercise they'd go through before a real life appearance. Relief pitchers, for example, are not able to get jogging in the bullpen like starters do in the outfield before first pitch.
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If we ever get better relievers it will change ! But there just isnt good relievers in the game !! If we keep seeing starters more and more! It makes them easier to hit! Who cares
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Starters as relievers:
The idea isn’t the issue, the execution of said idea is the problem.
Starters coming out of the bullpen is part of baseball, and will likely become even more prevalent in the future. SDS just needs to figure out how to limit the usage of starters out of the pen in RS.
Starters coming out of bullpen is a part of baseball? Happens zero times per season in regular season. Only in playoffs... more specifically World Series sometimes
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But I like playing with current rosters in H2H never understood how it’s fun playing with full team of all stars with unrealistic uniforms In a minor league park. But I know that’s what everyone loves now
