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  • Dolenz_PSND Online
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    #10

    @Onix_Savage22_PSN said:

    Now I’m stressin I flipped for like 2 hours hard last night should I be worried about a possible timeout or ban coming my way?

    It would be great too know the criteria that gets people flagged but that would just be used by the bot makers to program their bots to avoid detection.

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  • nhacia88_MLBTSN Offline
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    #11

    @Onix_Savage22_PSN
    Ahh the good ol days when you could flip as much and as long as you wanted without ptsd of getting restricted

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  • Ericulous1_XBLE Offline
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    #12

    @PriorFir4383355_XBL I understand your take. But to be unfairly banned, and because they lack real communication skills, I will use any approach available to me.

    The funny thing is, my account would absolutely show I don’t flip very effectively compared to most. I put in Several orders and then wait about 15 minutes. The ones that go through I sell, the ones that don’t I cancel. I don’t keep trying to outbid for a particular card. I am way too impatient for that. I also can’t stress this enough. I CAN’T play online. I have TMobile and it doesn’t support head to head. I have yet to figure out a way around it. I wouldn’t know how to use a bot or even what a bot is if it bit me on the nose. I still type with two fingers for gods sake. I am the least tech savvy person on the planet. I didn’t even understand that bots were used by people. I just learned how to flip a few years ago so I could collect the cards I like.

    Yes if you flip cards you should now be worried because SDS is essentially banning flipping. @sds_joek_psn I am sorry to keep bugging you but how would I go about escalating my complaint?

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  • TripleH-4481_PSNT Offline
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    wrote last edited by TripleH-4481_PSN
    #13

    I think the safest bet is to flip only on the console. Flipping on the app can look like bot behavior as multiple orders can be posted with a single click. On the console you need to manually enter each order amount and post. It’s tedious but in no way could be mistaken for bot behavior.

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  • Bridge Piece_XBLB Offline
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    #14

    What were you flipping? I got a restriction earlier in the year when I was flipping a lot of bronze and silvers. But they were able to easily tell I wasn't a bot, and they lifted my restriction.

    I flipped an insane amount with the high margins yesterday - but only diamonds. So far I'm okay.

    What did their response back look like as well?

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  • LadySwampfox_XBLL Online
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    #15

    @TripleH-4481_PSN I miss the good old days when the market made sense and we could flip in confidence.

    Right now I’m looking at LS Sam Huff. Why does he have several buy orders for 13 stubs each? He’s a common card for God’s sake!

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  • Ericulous1_XBLE Offline
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    @Bridge-Piece_XBL I flip spotlight diamond cards. I put in 15-20 buy orders, wait for about 10 mins or so and sell the ones that went through and cancel the others. My volume is not very high. Yes I can go fast on the app. But not anywhere in the realm of what a bot could do I imagine.

    The response was very cookie cutter-

    Your access to the Community Market via the Companion App and website has been restricted following a review of account activity that indicates non-standard marketplace usage. This restriction is permanent in MLB The Show 26.

    Access to the Community Market on console remains available.

    As a general reminder, the use of automated tools within any part of the game, Companion App, or website is not permitted.

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  • TripleH-4481_PSNT Offline
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    #17

    @Ericulous1_XBL

    Just thinking any bulk orders on the app could get you flagged as it’s too quick and easy to post which could get you snagged as a bot. I don’t agree with it but it’s the only way I can wrap my head around it. I’ve been focusing nearly all my flipping on the console in the limited time I do have.

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  • PsylockeSmythe_XBLP Offline
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    #18

    @Ericulous1_XBL This is just my guess, but it was more than likely how quickly you were placing the orders and making changes to those orders that made it looks like automated tools were being used.

    I still feel that it is the speed of the transactions being placed and or modified is what is tripping the software that they are using.

    As TripleH stated, the safest way to flip is via the console, due to how slow it is to place the orders.

    Just my opinion.

    Psy

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  • Bridge Piece_XBLB Offline
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    #19

    @Ericulous1_XBL Man, if you're telling the truth here, which I'm sure you are, that's really disappointing. I was super upset when I got restricted earlier in the year, and I was told that flipping is totally fine. That's how someone like me, who works 50-60 hour weeks and has a family, engages with the game and keeps up with the folks who can play 8-10 hours a day.

    I do the same thing with the bulk orders. I would reply back and ask for proof that you had non-standard marketplace usage. They should be able to detail what is flagging you as a bot. I'm not technical enough to understand the process involved, but common sense leans toward thinking they'd be able to identify the difference.

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  • Sarge1387_PSNS Offline
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    @PsylockeSmythe_XBL said:

    I still feel that it is the speed of the transactions being placed and or modified is what is tripping the software that they are using.

    this is what I suggested in another thread, that the timestamps on the transactions would be what triggers it

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  • Dolenz_PSND Online
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    #21

    Any number of ways they could make the determination depending on what data they store long term so that they can be reviewed.

    The obvious choice is # of Transactions, probably over a given time frame.
    They could possibly track placed orders vs cancelled orders.

    We'll never know, but one thing I think it is safe to say is that if you get in bidding wars with bots trying to undercut each other then it is going to look like two bots sparring.

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  • samguenther1987_PSNS Offline
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    #22

    @nhacia88_MLBTS said:

    @Onix_Savage22_PSN
    Ahh the good ol days when you could flip as much and as long as you wanted without ptsd of getting restricted

    And without actual bots undercutting you.

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  • Dolenz_PSND Online
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    #23

    Cheaters and Exploiters always make the situation worse for regular users.

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  • Sarge1387_PSNS Offline
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    #24

    @Dolenz_PSN Just look at the state CoD finds itself in right now. I saw that 5 years ago and remember going "I wonder how long it'll be before it hits sports gaming en masse"

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  • Onix_Savage22_PSNO Offline
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    #25

    @nhacia88_MLBTS this is my first year rly flipping so I don’t even know how much I would have made last year without 20 card limit.

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  • S Offline
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    #26

    @Ericulous1_XBL -- If you can DM me your ticket number, I can look into it for you.

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  • Ericulous1_XBLE Offline
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    #27

    @SDS_JoeK_PSN that’s awesome, I will send it to you now

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  • VOReason1976_XBLV Online
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    #28

    @SDS_JoeK_PSN can you help me as well please, I have been incorrectly restricted.

    Id really appreciate your help
    Steve

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  • DrBear100_PSND Offline
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    #29

    I gotta give it up to @goozefn_psn for the advice for gold exchange packs. I exclusively do this now. It has cut my transactions down by two-thirds. I buy enough to get me to my daily stub goal. I set buy orders and don't touch them for 24 hours. I when I set my sell orders I let them sit for 24 hours then I adjust the price. Can't mistake me for bot doing that.

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