Drafts packs a massive rip off
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@Ezio-I7_XBL said in Drafts packs a massive rip off:
People who fell for the 75k pack must be playing mlb the show for the first year. It was obvious it was a stub grab and the card would be in a choice pack through conquest and the program. Very glad sds put these packs as repeatable through conquest, great move!
15k for beating 5 teams in Conquest, absolutely amazing. Got up to 35k in stubs after beating the conquest map (had roughly 10k to start) and bought Jojo Parker because why not now lol.
I'll take a small conquest map that gives you a guaranteed 15k stubs each time, especially when one of those teams is the batting practice Rockies.
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For the record I didn’t buy any packs and never do, the reason this was far more of a rip off is because normally they do a rare and base round so people buy the packs hoping for the rare buy knowing it’s a long shot. They made these packs appear valuable with the time limit leading people to believe the value would go up. I always buy the players not the packs for this reason during a flash sale because they plummet in price. After the sale is over, I sell them back and make a solid profit. Now we know for tomorrow and Tuesday.
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I didn’t buy the packs but I did buy Eli for 69k. I should’ve sold him but it’s all good, his value didn’t drop tremendously. I want to keep him anyway. I have all the collections done and had a decent amount of stubs to spare even though I took an L. Sometimes you’re the bug and sometimes you’re the windshield. lol
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Yes they said there would be a program and conquest. But they also created a fabricated sense of urgency with these packs implying they would be more rare than they actually were. It’s bad optics regardless of the fine print.
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Let’s be honest , what they’ve done is ensure that flipping these Draft cards is next to impossible.
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@capardo_XBL I disagree. The margins are fantastic. I’ve made 100K already flipping them. They screwed up. I wonder how they will price tonight’s HRD cards.
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This was the biggest crock of [censored] ever. 75k exclusive pack, limited time only. Followed by a 30k limited time only. THEN you put out a 30k pack with 3 cards in it for a week?
Where is the value? I’m confusing and pissed. I think I spent 400k and I got maybe 200k in value.
Something about this is terribly wrong.
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@Ericulous1_XBL congratulations! Glad you were able to take advantage of the opportunity.
I should have been more specific. The window to flip these cards appear to be gone. Just checked margins. In general, they aren’t there. Might have been earlier, but many of the margins are “under water” (I think that is the term)
It’s similar to what’s going on with LS cards. No margins.
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I agree that the optics on this are not that great but I wonder if people thought twice before buying packs?
Did you really think that SDS was going to offer 4 of the best cards from the draft for only 4 hours and then pull them from the market completely? Making the Draft Collection impossible for everyone else who did not, or could not buy a pack during that window?
Again, this is not a defense of the practice, as they absolutely preyed on people's fear of missing out (FOMO) or their greed (those who purchased packs thinking that the prices would only go up). They never actually said that these packs were the only way that we were going to be able to get these cards but they also did not say that they would be more readily available 6 hours later. They were purposefully vague.
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I don't consider the pack a ripoff move by SDS at all, and I am anything but an SDS apologist. As with everything else in life, there is a price for convenience and the inability to wait for something. I am an old guy, nearly 60 years old, and back in the day we had to learn to wait for things. There was rarely instant gratification. You wanted the news, you had to watch television at 6p and 10p. If something happened after 10p, you found out in the next mornings paper. You wanted some trivial fact of information, you got in the car, or drove your bike to the library to look it up in a reference book, which was probably 5+ years old itself. You didn't carry around a personal computer with you all day, like now with smartphones. The pack was presented on the "Not Live" SDS stream exactly correctly. They said that there would be an all-encompassing pack released later in the night that would have all of the same cards as the first two packs and more, and that the first two would be more expensive, but you would have your choice of cards, and you would get to use them earlier. I have $1.2M stubs and less than a month before Madden 26 launches, so I was perfectly fine with paying $75K for the Cardinals draft pick. It does sting a little to see the card available this morning for $25K, but as I said, $50K in stubs was the price for the fun I had using the card last night. Money well spent for me. Not everything is about "flipping" or "investing", or a "virtual card holding it's value". Just to be clear, it is virtual and since I didn't spend a dime to acquire those stubs, and can't sell the cards for real money, it has no "value" for me.
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My opinion (FWIW): SDS is free to do whatever they like with regards to the game. I’m fine with that.
However, I don’t ever recall them doing something like this previously. ( I go back to 2021). Those 75k cards crashed “almost instantly “. In the past, those cards would have held their value longer
Again, that’s fine by me. Just something new ( I think). The card market has been “different “ this year ( in general) so this is something to remember going forward within the game.
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All packs are a rip off, not sure why people buy them
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Luckily I didn't buy any of the packs because I only had 31k stubs at the time. Plus I felt that 75k was too much for a draft pack
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@capardo_XBL said in Drafts packs a massive rip off:
Let’s be honest , what they’ve done is ensure that flipping these Draft cards is next to impossible.
That's what they've done to flipping this year in general. Nice big ol' d!ck kick. Still possible, just harder to find the right ones to flip
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People still don't get it. If you are going to tell people that there are going to be repeatable packs available then say exactly what will be in them. Don't ignore that important detail and offer 75k packs and 30k packs a few hours before the content drops. Just drop it all at the same time and let people decide. SDS knew what they were doing there.
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NEVER buy packs, I bought Doyle just to give him a test run and sold him right back with only a 3-4K loss with the 10% factored in. I will get him back once he is lower
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@Ericulous1_XBL This game is an absolute joke this year. Whole game is collections. Hey, we'll give you 10 cards but you need 30. You have to buy the rest or get the .000001% pack pull. And we are going to limit how many stubs you can get. So for that 100k collection reward, you need to pull 30 diamonds before you can get there.
Connections are trash as usual.
Very unrewarding game.
Just a really bad game this year. Hopefully, people remember this next year and don't fall for the massive marketing campaign that you will 100% see next year. If they don't take a hit next year for this year, it will only get worse.
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@capardo_XBL have you been flipping a lot? I’ve found some decent flip opportunities recently. I did check the margins and you’re right, a lot of them have disappeared
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@reardons_MLBTS I definitely appreciate this post and can relate. I’m 43 so I definitely didn’t grow up with the instant gratification technology but it was introduced in My young adulthood. The only thing that bothers me is the way it was represented. I made stubs off the move so it worked in my favor.
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I didn’t think they would pull the pack from the market, but I thought it would be more difficult to get like a Chase Pack.
