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  • mookieparlaybetts_MLBTSM Offline
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    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    Have you guys forgot that there was a collection for a retro finest Andrew McCutch??!!

    Like he might literally be the best card in the game lol

    I love the Cutch card, but even if you don't factor in active quirks Trout is still better in every single way

    Cutch is better than Griffey

    Like what are you dudes talking about lol?

    Cutch is arguably the best card in the game

    McCutchen: 116/125/106/115/100 with 94 Fielding and 87 Speed
    Griffey:122/111/125/121/109 with 98 Fielding and 90 Speed
    Trout:113/121/125/125/81 with 91 Fielding and 99 Speed
    Cutch has the lowest arm strength, vs. R is more important and vision doesn't matter enough to knock Trout for that. If you don't hit as well with Griffey or Trout that is fine but McCutchen is objectively not better than those two cards

    Lol you’re really paying attention too much the attributes

    If you go by attributes Gary Sheff is the best card in the game

    Cutch is glitchy just like Brett- there are cards with better attributes but there’s just something about Brett that he plays wayyy better and same thing with Cutch

    Cutch is better than Griffey lol- that’s not a debate- and as far as hitting with Griffey- he’s never even made my lineup my outfield is too stacked lol

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    But Trout will def be in there when I get him-

    Remember the question that was raised is who is better than trout in the game and no way should the answer be Griffey over Andrew Cutch

    Like I said before you see Cutch in most content creators line up still to this day- Griffey not so much

    It looks to me you are just refusing to believe that the collection rewards have been passed by. You are playing Rollins and Lindor in the outfield and have Bo Bichette at short. Brett is still a top option but he's been passed by at 3rd too. I understand you spent a lot time and stubs on the collection rewards but the top 3 outfielders year in and year out are Trout, Griffey, and Mantle. This year will be absolutely no different
    No their in my lineups because they are the best players in the game lol

    There isn’t a better 3B than Bret- if your don’t have Bret in your lineup you’re doing it wrong lol

    I understand you want Griffey to be the same Griffey he is every year in this game but this year he isn’t him I’m sorry for that- just like this years Babe card isn’t him either

    I use who I’m good with- so your argument that I only care about collection players is false

    Posada and Mauer aren’t collection players and they are amazing

    Griffey is not better than Cutch

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  • MRAD2010_XBLM Offline
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    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    What he said

    Andrew McCuthen would like a word with everyone in this thread lol smh

    I love that Cutch card but I definitely don’t think he’s better than Griffey or Trout. Here’s a hot take. I’m not even sure if he would even start over Vlad Sr,Bader or some of the other elite outfielders that are out now. Now saying he’s worse but I’m not sure that he’s better either.

    Lol you guys are absolutely mad

    Bro said Cutch isn’t better than Griffey vlad or bader lol

    I literally was just having a convo with a too 50 player last week while he was drafting a BR team and he stated that Cutch is the best card in the game

    Yes this was before trout but the question asked in this thread is who is as good as trout to use as a replacement and you dudes are saying Harrison Bader before you’re saying Cutch

    Trust me it’s very rare that a card you get from a free program is going to be better than a Card that’s behind a collection wall

    I didn’t say that Vlad Sr,Bader or a lot of the other elite cards are better but I said that I’m not sure they’re worse. You stated your opinion and I stated mine. You just don’t like my opinion and that’s fine. Doesn’t bother me one bit. You use who you like and who you do well with. I know by my stats Cutch isn’t my best hitter. Also had more home runs and a higher batting average with Griffey than Cutch with almost 150 at bats less.

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  • mookieparlaybetts_MLBTSM Offline
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    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    What he said

    Andrew McCuthen would like a word with everyone in this thread lol smh

    I love that Cutch card but I definitely don’t think he’s better than Griffey or Trout. Here’s a hot take. I’m not even sure if he would even start over Vlad Sr,Bader or some of the other elite outfielders that are out now. Now saying he’s worse but I’m not sure that he’s better either.

    Lol you guys are absolutely mad

    Bro said Cutch isn’t better than Griffey vlad or bader lol

    I literally was just having a convo with a too 50 player last week while he was drafting a BR team and he stated that Cutch is the best card in the game

    Yes this was before trout but the question asked in this thread is who is as good as trout to use as a replacement and you dudes are saying Harrison Bader before you’re saying Cutch

    Trust me it’s very rare that a card you get from a free program is going to be better than a Card that’s behind a collection wall

    I didn’t say that Vlad Sr,Bader or a lot of the other elite cards are better but I said that I’m not sure they’re worse. You stated your opinion and I stated mine. You just don’t like my opinion and that’s fine. Doesn’t bother me one bit. You use who you like and who you do well with. I know by my stats Cutch isn’t my best hitter. Also had more home runs and a higher batting average with Griffey than Cutch with almost 150 at bats less.

    You ever think maybe you just have an easier time hitting with lefties bc most of the time he’s facing a rhp?

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  • MRAD2010_XBLM Offline
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    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    What he said

    Andrew McCuthen would like a word with everyone in this thread lol smh

    I love that Cutch card but I definitely don’t think he’s better than Griffey or Trout. Here’s a hot take. I’m not even sure if he would even start over Vlad Sr,Bader or some of the other elite outfielders that are out now. Now saying he’s worse but I’m not sure that he’s better either.

    Lol you guys are absolutely mad

    Bro said Cutch isn’t better than Griffey vlad or bader lol

    I literally was just having a convo with a too 50 player last week while he was drafting a BR team and he stated that Cutch is the best card in the game

    Yes this was before trout but the question asked in this thread is who is as good as trout to use as a replacement and you dudes are saying Harrison Bader before you’re saying Cutch

    Trust me it’s very rare that a card you get from a free program is going to be better than a Card that’s behind a collection wall

    I didn’t say that Vlad Sr,Bader or a lot of the other elite cards are better but I said that I’m not sure they’re worse. You stated your opinion and I stated mine. You just don’t like my opinion and that’s fine. Doesn’t bother me one bit. You use who you like and who you do well with. I know by my stats Cutch isn’t my best hitter. Also had more home runs and a higher batting average with Griffey than Cutch with almost 150 at bats less.

    You ever think maybe you just have an easier time hitting with lefties bc most of the time he’s facing a rhp?

    Vlad and Bader are righties.

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  • mookieparlaybetts_MLBTSM Offline
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    #30

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    What he said

    Andrew McCuthen would like a word with everyone in this thread lol smh

    I love that Cutch card but I definitely don’t think he’s better than Griffey or Trout. Here’s a hot take. I’m not even sure if he would even start over Vlad Sr,Bader or some of the other elite outfielders that are out now. Now saying he’s worse but I’m not sure that he’s better either.

    Lol you guys are absolutely mad

    Bro said Cutch isn’t better than Griffey vlad or bader lol

    I literally was just having a convo with a too 50 player last week while he was drafting a BR team and he stated that Cutch is the best card in the game

    Yes this was before trout but the question asked in this thread is who is as good as trout to use as a replacement and you dudes are saying Harrison Bader before you’re saying Cutch

    Trust me it’s very rare that a card you get from a free program is going to be better than a Card that’s behind a collection wall

    I didn’t say that Vlad Sr,Bader or a lot of the other elite cards are better but I said that I’m not sure they’re worse. You stated your opinion and I stated mine. You just don’t like my opinion and that’s fine. Doesn’t bother me one bit. You use who you like and who you do well with. I know by my stats Cutch isn’t my best hitter. Also had more home runs and a higher batting average with Griffey than Cutch with almost 150 at bats less.

    You ever think maybe you just have an easier time hitting with lefties bc most of the time he’s facing a rhp?

    Vlad and Bader are righties.

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    What he said

    Andrew McCuthen would like a word with everyone in this thread lol smh

    I love that Cutch card but I definitely don’t think he’s better than Griffey or Trout. Here’s a hot take. I’m not even sure if he would even start over Vlad Sr,Bader or some of the other elite outfielders that are out now. Now saying he’s worse but I’m not sure that he’s better either.

    Lol you guys are absolutely mad

    Bro said Cutch isn’t better than Griffey vlad or bader lol

    I literally was just having a convo with a too 50 player last week while he was drafting a BR team and he stated that Cutch is the best card in the game

    Yes this was before trout but the question asked in this thread is who is as good as trout to use as a replacement and you dudes are saying Harrison Bader before you’re saying Cutch

    Trust me it’s very rare that a card you get from a free program is going to be better than a Card that’s behind a collection wall

    I didn’t say that Vlad Sr,Bader or a lot of the other elite cards are better but I said that I’m not sure they’re worse. You stated your opinion and I stated mine. You just don’t like my opinion and that’s fine. Doesn’t bother me one bit. You use who you like and who you do well with. I know by my stats Cutch isn’t my best hitter. Also had more home runs and a higher batting average with Griffey than Cutch with almost 150 at bats less.

    You ever think maybe you just have an easier time hitting with lefties bc most of the time he’s facing a rhp?

    Vlad and Bader are righties.

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    What he said

    Andrew McCuthen would like a word with everyone in this thread lol smh

    I love that Cutch card but I definitely don’t think he’s better than Griffey or Trout. Here’s a hot take. I’m not even sure if he would even start over Vlad Sr,Bader or some of the other elite outfielders that are out now. Now saying he’s worse but I’m not sure that he’s better either.

    Lol you guys are absolutely mad

    Bro said Cutch isn’t better than Griffey vlad or bader lol

    I literally was just having a convo with a too 50 player last week while he was drafting a BR team and he stated that Cutch is the best card in the game

    Yes this was before trout but the question asked in this thread is who is as good as trout to use as a replacement and you dudes are saying Harrison Bader before you’re saying Cutch

    Trust me it’s very rare that a card you get from a free program is going to be better than a Card that’s behind a collection wall

    I didn’t say that Vlad Sr,Bader or a lot of the other elite cards are better but I said that I’m not sure they’re worse. You stated your opinion and I stated mine. You just don’t like my opinion and that’s fine. Doesn’t bother me one bit. You use who you like and who you do well with. I know by my stats Cutch isn’t my best hitter. Also had more home runs and a higher batting average with Griffey than Cutch with almost 150 at bats less.

    You ever think maybe you just have an easier time hitting with lefties bc most of the time he’s facing a rhp?

    Vlad and Bader are righties.

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    What he said

    Andrew McCuthen would like a word with everyone in this thread lol smh

    I love that Cutch card but I definitely don’t think he’s better than Griffey or Trout. Here’s a hot take. I’m not even sure if he would even start over Vlad Sr,Bader or some of the other elite outfielders that are out now. Now saying he’s worse but I’m not sure that he’s better either.

    Lol you guys are absolutely mad

    Bro said Cutch isn’t better than Griffey vlad or bader lol

    I literally was just having a convo with a too 50 player last week while he was drafting a BR team and he stated that Cutch is the best card in the game

    Yes this was before trout but the question asked in this thread is who is as good as trout to use as a replacement and you dudes are saying Harrison Bader before you’re saying Cutch

    Trust me it’s very rare that a card you get from a free program is going to be better than a Card that’s behind a collection wall

    I didn’t say that Vlad Sr,Bader or a lot of the other elite cards are better but I said that I’m not sure they’re worse. You stated your opinion and I stated mine. You just don’t like my opinion and that’s fine. Doesn’t bother me one bit. You use who you like and who you do well with. I know by my stats Cutch isn’t my best hitter. Also had more home runs and a higher batting average with Griffey than Cutch with almost 150 at bats less.

    You ever think maybe you just have an easier time hitting with lefties bc most of the time he’s facing a rhp?

    Vlad and Bader are righties.
    I know what they are lol

    You talked about your Griffey stats compared to Cutch

    Hence why I said what I said about maybe you like batting leftie vs rhp

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  • Ericulous1_PSNE Offline
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    Oh man I forgot my popcorn.
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    #32

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    What he said

    Andrew McCuthen would like a word with everyone in this thread lol smh

    I love that Cutch card but I definitely don’t think he’s better than Griffey or Trout. Here’s a hot take. I’m not even sure if he would even start over Vlad Sr,Bader or some of the other elite outfielders that are out now. Now saying he’s worse but I’m not sure that he’s better either.

    Lol you guys are absolutely mad

    Bro said Cutch isn’t better than Griffey vlad or bader lol

    I literally was just having a convo with a too 50 player last week while he was drafting a BR team and he stated that Cutch is the best card in the game

    Yes this was before trout but the question asked in this thread is who is as good as trout to use as a replacement and you dudes are saying Harrison Bader before you’re saying Cutch

    Trust me it’s very rare that a card you get from a free program is going to be better than a Card that’s behind a collection wall

    I didn’t say that Vlad Sr,Bader or a lot of the other elite cards are better but I said that I’m not sure they’re worse. You stated your opinion and I stated mine. You just don’t like my opinion and that’s fine. Doesn’t bother me one bit. You use who you like and who you do well with. I know by my stats Cutch isn’t my best hitter. Also had more home runs and a higher batting average with Griffey than Cutch with almost 150 at bats less.

    You ever think maybe you just have an easier time hitting with lefties bc most of the time he’s facing a rhp?

    Vlad and Bader are righties.

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    What he said

    Andrew McCuthen would like a word with everyone in this thread lol smh

    I love that Cutch card but I definitely don’t think he’s better than Griffey or Trout. Here’s a hot take. I’m not even sure if he would even start over Vlad Sr,Bader or some of the other elite outfielders that are out now. Now saying he’s worse but I’m not sure that he’s better either.

    Lol you guys are absolutely mad

    Bro said Cutch isn’t better than Griffey vlad or bader lol

    I literally was just having a convo with a too 50 player last week while he was drafting a BR team and he stated that Cutch is the best card in the game

    Yes this was before trout but the question asked in this thread is who is as good as trout to use as a replacement and you dudes are saying Harrison Bader before you’re saying Cutch

    Trust me it’s very rare that a card you get from a free program is going to be better than a Card that’s behind a collection wall

    I didn’t say that Vlad Sr,Bader or a lot of the other elite cards are better but I said that I’m not sure they’re worse. You stated your opinion and I stated mine. You just don’t like my opinion and that’s fine. Doesn’t bother me one bit. You use who you like and who you do well with. I know by my stats Cutch isn’t my best hitter. Also had more home runs and a higher batting average with Griffey than Cutch with almost 150 at bats less.

    You ever think maybe you just have an easier time hitting with lefties bc most of the time he’s facing a rhp?

    Vlad and Bader are righties.

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    What he said

    Andrew McCuthen would like a word with everyone in this thread lol smh

    I love that Cutch card but I definitely don’t think he’s better than Griffey or Trout. Here’s a hot take. I’m not even sure if he would even start over Vlad Sr,Bader or some of the other elite outfielders that are out now. Now saying he’s worse but I’m not sure that he’s better either.

    Lol you guys are absolutely mad

    Bro said Cutch isn’t better than Griffey vlad or bader lol

    I literally was just having a convo with a too 50 player last week while he was drafting a BR team and he stated that Cutch is the best card in the game

    Yes this was before trout but the question asked in this thread is who is as good as trout to use as a replacement and you dudes are saying Harrison Bader before you’re saying Cutch

    Trust me it’s very rare that a card you get from a free program is going to be better than a Card that’s behind a collection wall

    I didn’t say that Vlad Sr,Bader or a lot of the other elite cards are better but I said that I’m not sure they’re worse. You stated your opinion and I stated mine. You just don’t like my opinion and that’s fine. Doesn’t bother me one bit. You use who you like and who you do well with. I know by my stats Cutch isn’t my best hitter. Also had more home runs and a higher batting average with Griffey than Cutch with almost 150 at bats less.

    You ever think maybe you just have an easier time hitting with lefties bc most of the time he’s facing a rhp?

    Vlad and Bader are righties.

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    What he said

    Andrew McCuthen would like a word with everyone in this thread lol smh

    I love that Cutch card but I definitely don’t think he’s better than Griffey or Trout. Here’s a hot take. I’m not even sure if he would even start over Vlad Sr,Bader or some of the other elite outfielders that are out now. Now saying he’s worse but I’m not sure that he’s better either.

    Lol you guys are absolutely mad

    Bro said Cutch isn’t better than Griffey vlad or bader lol

    I literally was just having a convo with a too 50 player last week while he was drafting a BR team and he stated that Cutch is the best card in the game

    Yes this was before trout but the question asked in this thread is who is as good as trout to use as a replacement and you dudes are saying Harrison Bader before you’re saying Cutch

    Trust me it’s very rare that a card you get from a free program is going to be better than a Card that’s behind a collection wall

    I didn’t say that Vlad Sr,Bader or a lot of the other elite cards are better but I said that I’m not sure they’re worse. You stated your opinion and I stated mine. You just don’t like my opinion and that’s fine. Doesn’t bother me one bit. You use who you like and who you do well with. I know by my stats Cutch isn’t my best hitter. Also had more home runs and a higher batting average with Griffey than Cutch with almost 150 at bats less.

    You ever think maybe you just have an easier time hitting with lefties bc most of the time he’s facing a rhp?

    Vlad and Bader are righties.
    I know what they are lol

    You talked about your Griffey stats compared to Cutch

    Hence why I said what I said about maybe you like batting leftie vs rhp

    It could be because he’s a lefty but my stats with a few players are better than Cutch. Including Vlad Sr,Bader and some other guys. Call me crazy but I even use Lou Brock,Gwynn or Corbin Carroll in place of Cutch pretty often. Just because I like have fast lead off guys. Plus at this point in the year with so many 99s you can use just about anyone. I love switching my lineups up daily.

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    I think some people overthink attributes. On paper that Trout is likely the best current OF card, but if you cant hit with it, it doesn't matter. (ie that cutch card rakes) Find the card with the best attributes that you perform well with and stick with it until you find better. To me its trial and error, I couldn't hit [censored] with Piazza, so I dont use him etc etc

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    Bottom line is you just have to use who YOU do best with. I have several players/pitchers on that ShowZone list on my team but not all of them because a lot of them I don't do well with. Currently my best starting lineup for me is:

    C Foxx
    1B Ruth
    2B Morgan
    3B Brett
    SS Turner
    LF Chipper
    CF Griffey
    RF Sheffield/Mays

    But I want a better Mays and Mantle and I will eventually get Trout and then put Mays at 1B with Ruth on the bench

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    @TEXAS10PT_PSN said in Better than Trout:

    Bottom line is you just have to use who YOU do best with. I have several players/pitchers on that ShowZone list on my team but not all of them because a lot of them I don't do well with. Currently my best starting lineup for me is:

    C Foxx
    1B Ruth
    2B Morgan
    3B Brett
    SS Turner
    LF Chipper
    CF Griffey
    RF Sheffield/Mays

    But I want a better Mays and Mantle and I will eventually get Trout and then put Mays at 1B with Ruth on the bench

    Great lineup, mine going into tomorrow

    2B - Mondesi (POTM)
    SS - O'Neil Cruz
    CF - Trout (Finest)
    LF - Griffey Jr
    RF - Ruth
    1B - Foxx
    C - Piazza (Will be Rutschman)
    3B - Trea Turner

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    Have Trout. Can confirm, you shouldn't pass on him. There's a reason why every year (and early this year when it was just his LS, that people still used him even though there were "better options"

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    Harrison Bader is elite and definitely end game.

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    I’m gonna run Blackmon, Finley and Green. All have great swings!

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    @kadylac1_PSN said in Better than Trout:

    I have in my order for Finest Series Trout, but I know some people are passing on him because there are other outfielders with equal or better stats. Which outfielders would you take over Trout?

    Tim Salmon. While I enjoy Trout it's hard to beat a good Salmon.

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    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @MRAD2010_XBL said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    What he said

    Andrew McCuthen would like a word with everyone in this thread lol smh

    I love that Cutch card but I definitely don’t think he’s better than Griffey or Trout. Here’s a hot take. I’m not even sure if he would even start over Vlad Sr,Bader or some of the other elite outfielders that are out now. Now saying he’s worse but I’m not sure that he’s better either.

    Lol you guys are absolutely mad

    Bro said Cutch isn’t better than Griffey vlad or bader lol

    I literally was just having a convo with a too 50 player last week while he was drafting a BR team and he stated that Cutch is the best card in the game

    Yes this was before trout but the question asked in this thread is who is as good as trout to use as a replacement and you dudes are saying Harrison Bader before you’re saying Cutch

    Trust me it’s very rare that a card you get from a free program is going to be better than a Card that’s behind a collection wall

    Oh well if a top 50 player/streamer said it must be true! 🙄

    I get wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more hits with 99 Swisher (free card) Than any other player in my library. Point is the top 50 players best card might not be the same for everybody. I think there are swing types that make it more comfortable for people which allows SDS to create more diversity. Which is what we have asked for for years.

    This is why the Market is a sham b/c the 500k to 1 mil cards may not play better than the 60k card. So in a sense forcing people to collect cards to aquire cards that are unbuyable is kinda in a sense a market manipulation in a way but not to an extreme, because people have a choice to collect or not.

    #Allcardsavailabletoeveryone Top cards via BR,RS, or Events is one the worst things they have done in recent years. Those are the highest price cards on the Market. So they are basically saying Win or pay a million stubs for a card.

    And i respond with if that's the case then either change the limit of Max price lower or make every card available regardless what mode you play. Because in the end most people like to play with players they either grow up watching or because it is a game and should be fun for everyone not just people who have countless hours to grind the 3 competitive modes.

    With that being said the other programs was a nice addition for really good playable cards. Just my personal opinion is every card should be available through stats aquired. Whether that means with players from same team or actual attribute type stats.

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    @samguenther1987 said in Better than Trout:

    I mean there are a ton of other great options, but I'll exclude the ones you get for free i.e., Curtis Granderson/Harison Bader

    Jim Edmonds - Finest
    Ken Griffey Jr - Takashi
    Honus Wagner - Milestone
    Vlad Guerrero Sr - Finest
    Hank Aaron FOTF (Still a beast)
    Stan Musial - Finest
    Babe Ruth - Signature

    That being said my outfield is now

    LF -Ken Griffey Jr - Takashi
    CF - Mike Trout - Finest
    RF - Babe Ruth - Signature

    and I'm still waiting on a 99 Reggie Jackson

    99 Reggie, I can’t believe I forgot about him. I also want 99 Mantle.
    Edit: I would like a better Mays too, but not too sure that will happen.

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    Really interesting to see everyone's perspective. Right now we have Griffey and McCutchen are the only ones who come close to Trout. All three have power and speed. Many of the other guys mentioned have similar hitting stats but no speed. Plus you throw in active quirks for Trout, boom best card in the game. Now I do think Julio Rodriguez gets a really nice card today (speed and power) which should be a nice fill in until my Trout order fills. We also have not seen a good Mantle which if they give him the attributes he should get, would automatically be the best card because of switch hitting. My end game OF last year was Griffey, Mantle, Trout. I expect it to be the same this year.

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    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @TEXAS10PT_PSN said in Better than Trout:

    MookieMan....How is Gary Sheffield the best card in the game? Awesome hitter but a Silver fielder by attributes. I'm not biting LOL

    Take a look at this- if you just pay attention to attributes only these are the best cards in the game at positions

    https://i.imgur.com/Emb0Cid.jpg

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    Look at CF- Soriano is over Cutch lol

    But is Andrew Mcuthen 1000x better than Soriano in this game yes

    This is why you just can’t go by attributes alone

    Everyone plays different with players’ cards than others, as has been said. However, I believe that the majority of people would count Posada as a top 5 Catcher. Didn’t look at the rest of the list, but I fully agree that attributes alone do not make a card great. Many love Piazza, but I can never hit well with him. Another player that comes to mind is Manny Machado. He has one of the best Finest cards in The Show 20, but his swing just never plays like his attributes for me. Other cards play high above.

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    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @TEXAS10PT_PSN said in Better than Trout:

    MookieMan....How is Gary Sheffield the best card in the game? Awesome hitter but a Silver fielder by attributes. I'm not biting LOL

    Take a look at this- if you just pay attention to attributes only these are the best cards in the game at positions

    https://i.imgur.com/Emb0Cid.jpg

    alt text

    Look at CF- Soriano is over Cutch lol

    But is Andrew Mcuthen 1000x better than Soriano in this game yes

    This is why you just can’t go by attributes alone

    This is a great find, I had not seen this before. Only 3 I would agree with are Griffey, Jimmy and Foxx. Maybe Mauer. Thier starting pitchers are way off. Wagner and Chapman are top 2 RP but then the 2 MA guys? SHeff looks great on paper but I have yet to see many people who use him and like him. ANd the MS Judge, is a card who I thought I would love, but that vision is still brutal.

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    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    @mookieparlaybetts_MLBTS said in Better than Trout:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Better than Trout:

    Griffey is the only one you can reasonably make an argument for imo

    Have you guys forgot that there was a collection for a retro finest Andrew McCutch??!!

    Like he might literally be the best card in the game lol

    I love the Cutch card, but even if you don't factor in active quirks Trout is still better in every single way

    Cutch is better than Griffey

    Like what are you dudes talking about lol?

    Cutch is arguably the best card in the game

    McCutchen: 116/125/106/115/100 with 94 Fielding and 87 Speed
    Griffey:122/111/125/121/109 with 98 Fielding and 90 Speed
    Trout:113/121/125/125/81 with 91 Fielding and 99 Speed
    Cutch has the lowest arm strength, vs. R is more important and vision doesn't matter enough to knock Trout for that. If you don't hit as well with Griffey or Trout that is fine but McCutchen is objectively not better than those two cards

    Lol you’re really paying attention too much the attributes

    If you go by attributes Gary Sheff is the best card in the game

    Cutch is glitchy just like Brett- there are cards with better attributes but there’s just something about Brett that he plays wayyy better and same thing with Cutch

    Cutch is better than Griffey lol- that’s not a debate- and as far as hitting with Griffey- he’s never even made my lineup my outfield is too stacked lol

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    But Trout will def be in there when I get him-

    Remember the question that was raised is who is better than trout in the game and no way should the answer be Griffey over Andrew Cutch

    Like I said before you see Cutch in most content creators line up still to this day- Griffey not so much

    It looks to me you are just refusing to believe that the collection rewards have been passed by. You are playing Rollins and Lindor in the outfield and have Bo Bichette at short. Brett is still a top option but he's been passed by at 3rd too. I understand you spent a lot time and stubs on the collection rewards but the top 3 outfielders year in and year out are Trout, Griffey, and Mantle. This year will be absolutely no different
    No their in my lineups because they are the best players in the game lol

    There isn’t a better 3B than Bret- if your don’t have Bret in your lineup you’re doing it wrong lol

    I understand you want Griffey to be the same Griffey he is every year in this game but this year he isn’t him I’m sorry for that- just like this years Babe card isn’t him either

    I use who I’m good with- so your argument that I only care about collection players is false

    Posada and Mauer aren’t collection players and they are amazing

    Griffey is not better than Cutch

    Griffey is better than Cutch, its not even a debate its just fact. Just because you or your "top 50 streamer" buddy claim otherwise means absolutely nothing. Same as me claiming Future Stars Oneil Cruz is the best card in history because i absolutely mash with him. Opinions are not facts.

    And for what its worth, I hit 20 times better with Wade Boggs than I do Brett.

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