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So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?

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    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @toeter83_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    Another first baser? Although I get your point
    But everybody complained about to many first basers and I think they listened

    So be angry at the community

    Except that they included Pete Alonso in the May POTM program and David Ortiz as a reward in the event.

    A henchman is a different thing. What good would a Goldschmidt henchman be when they just released a 91?

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    @pscrabro_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    Pujols has had better numbers than Ortiz, but game tied in the 9th and I'm taking Ortiz over Pujols any day. Ortiz was known for being clutch and I'm not talking w/ RISP numbers... talking winning games at the end better than anybody ever has. Ortiz had more post season walkoffs in 1 year than anybody else had in their entire career. He would have 3-4 walkoffs and 3-4 go ahead 9th inning rbi per season... most guys can't do that in full 15+ season careers. the guy was just ridiculous with the game on the line, nobody has ever been as consistently clutch as he was in Boston. Sorry for the homer rant, but man I miss that guy.

    Don't apologize for being a homer to these Cardinal fans. They are the very definition of homers.

    Saying Papi was better treated than Pujols by SDS only because of his market, is moronic.

    Papi was the most clutch player ever, and meant more to his city than 100 Pujolses combined.

    Also, Cardinal whiner homers:

    Are you crying MARKET because of two lightning players this year?

    Well just last year you had:
    Tyler O'Neill - St. Louis
    Byron Buxton - Minnesota
    Robbie Ray - Toronto
    Kyle Schwarber - Washington

    Large markets?

    Just stop whining.

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    @rebsfan_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    Jeter only played for the Yankees, Papi made his name in Bawston after Minnesota gave up on him. Fat Albert chased the money, left St. Louis in the lurch. Only came back for his final season, no one cares.

    Yeah, been irrelevant for almost 10 years before retiring, his dominant days are way past. If you're 15-20 years old, you probably don't remember his MVP days; that's how long it's been.

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    @go4stros25_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    In what world does Pujols have "far superior" numbers to Jeter?

    Power numbers, sure. But to say he's "far superior" to Jeter is a ludicrous statement.

    Ummmm 🌎

    As a Boston fan who respects the hell out of Jeter. Also a transplant midwesterner who hates 99% of St. Louis fans, as well as Fat Albert and giggles every time I see a Cards fan complaining on here, Albert was and always will be a far superior player minus defense and that’s debatable.

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    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    In what world does Pujols have "far superior" numbers to Jeter?

    Power numbers, sure. But to say he's "far superior" to Jeter is a ludicrous statement.

    In the real world. I have watched and played baseball since the 70's. Cabrera and Pujols are two of the best hitters I have ever seen.

    Jeter would have been nothing had he not played in NY. One of the most over-rated players ever. Wasn't even the best SS on his own team. A-Rod was a far superior defensive player.
    Not in his own division. Nomar was far better. If you don't know this, your baseball knowledge is severely lacking.

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    Ok too many first basemen? Don’t wanna give it to Goldy? Fine! At least give him a Topps Now card that’s applicable. Speaking of Topps Now, why does SDS only use 3 or 4 per week? I mean I can understand only wanting a few to be free, but Why can’t the other Topps Now cards that Topps makes be released in the market???

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    @mjfc_363_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    Ok too many first basemen? Don’t wanna give it to Goldy? Fine! At least give him a Topps Now card that’s applicable. Speaking of Topps Now, why does SDS only use 3 or 4 per week? I mean I can understand only wanting a few to be free, but Why can’t the other Topps Now cards that Topps makes be released in the market???

    I think they are trying to keep their options open a bit more in the later months by doing this. If they gave out 6-7 a week you would easily run out of players to use without repeating

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    @dbub_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @pscrabro_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    Pujols has had better numbers than Ortiz, but game tied in the 9th and I'm taking Ortiz over Pujols any day. Ortiz was known for being clutch and I'm not talking w/ RISP numbers... talking winning games at the end better than anybody ever has. Ortiz had more post season walkoffs in 1 year than anybody else had in their entire career. He would have 3-4 walkoffs and 3-4 go ahead 9th inning rbi per season... most guys can't do that in full 15+ season careers. the guy was just ridiculous with the game on the line, nobody has ever been as consistently clutch as he was in Boston. Sorry for the homer rant, but man I miss that guy.

    Don't apologize for being a homer to these Cardinal fans. They are the very definition of homers.

    Saying Papi was better treated than Pujols by SDS only because of his market, is moronic.

    Papi was the most clutch player ever, and meant more to his city than 100 Pujolses combined.

    Also, Cardinal whiner homers:

    Are you crying MARKET because of two lightning players this year?

    Well just last year you had:
    Tyler O'Neill - St. Louis
    Byron Buxton - Minnesota
    Robbie Ray - Toronto
    Kyle Schwarber - Washington

    Large markets?

    Just stop whining.

    Nobody can understand how big baseball and Big Papi are here in Boston. I remember when he was recently shot in the D.R. and the Red Sox owners had their private plane their the following day to get him to a Boston hospital for the best care possible... the mood in MA. that day was like superheroes showed up and saved the day. My mother (70) doesn't even like sports, but she would tell you how much she loves Papi.

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    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    In what world does Pujols have "far superior" numbers to Jeter?

    Power numbers, sure. But to say he's "far superior" to Jeter is a ludicrous statement.

    In the real world. I have watched and played baseball since the 70's. Cabrera and Pujols are two of the best hitters I have ever seen.

    Jeter would have been nothing had he not played in NY. One of the most over-rated players ever. Wasn't even the best SS on his own team. A-Rod was a far superior defensive player.
    Not in his own division. Nomar was far better. If you don't know this, your baseball knowledge is severely lacking.

    Pretty sure his defense has nothing to do with his ability as a hitter but ok. Everyone chiming in here with their BS opinion about Pujols being "far superior" and no one has provided a single statistic to support that statement. And im talking actual batting statistics....not the stat nerd "what-if" numbers. ACTUAL statistics.

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    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    In what world does Pujols have "far superior" numbers to Jeter?

    Power numbers, sure. But to say he's "far superior" to Jeter is a ludicrous statement.

    In the real world. I have watched and played baseball since the 70's. Cabrera and Pujols are two of the best hitters I have ever seen.

    Jeter would have been nothing had he not played in NY. One of the most over-rated players ever. Wasn't even the best SS on his own team. A-Rod was a far superior defensive player.
    Not in his own division. Nomar was far better. If you don't know this, your baseball knowledge is severely lacking.

    Pretty sure his defense has nothing to do with his ability as a hitter but ok. Everyone chiming in here with their BS opinion about Pujols being "far superior" and no one has provided a single statistic to support that statement. And im talking actual batting statistics....not the stat nerd "what-if" numbers. ACTUAL statistics.

    Pujols had arguably the best 10 year stretch of any baseball player in the history of the sport, not sure what else you need. Are you not old enough to have remembered those years? Jeter isn't even in the same conversation as Pujols stat wise.

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    @djpearl23_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    In what world does Pujols have "far superior" numbers to Jeter?

    Power numbers, sure. But to say he's "far superior" to Jeter is a ludicrous statement.

    In the real world. I have watched and played baseball since the 70's. Cabrera and Pujols are two of the best hitters I have ever seen.

    Jeter would have been nothing had he not played in NY. One of the most over-rated players ever. Wasn't even the best SS on his own team. A-Rod was a far superior defensive player.
    Not in his own division. Nomar was far better. If you don't know this, your baseball knowledge is severely lacking.

    Pretty sure his defense has nothing to do with his ability as a hitter but ok. Everyone chiming in here with their BS opinion about Pujols being "far superior" and no one has provided a single statistic to support that statement. And im talking actual batting statistics....not the stat nerd "what-if" numbers. ACTUAL statistics.

    Pujols had arguably the best 10 year stretch of any baseball player in the history of the sport, not sure what else you need. Are you not old enough to have remembered those years? Jeter isn't even in the same conversation as Pujols stat wise.

    Ok? But what makes him "far superior"? When someone says "far superior" i think of a comparison between someone like Pujols and someone like Chili Davis. Other-worldly vs average. And what good is a 10 year stretch when the rest of the years are good but nothing amazing? I didnt realize that the argument everyone was attempting to make was simply a 10 year sample size and not a full careers worth of work.

    Yea we can just ignore the fact that Jeter has more hits in 200 less games, a better CAREER batting average and OBP and just focus solely on the power numbers in a 10 year period and say Pujols was "far superior" to that career bench player Derek Jeter. 😐

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    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @djpearl23_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    In what world does Pujols have "far superior" numbers to Jeter?

    Power numbers, sure. But to say he's "far superior" to Jeter is a ludicrous statement.

    In the real world. I have watched and played baseball since the 70's. Cabrera and Pujols are two of the best hitters I have ever seen.

    Jeter would have been nothing had he not played in NY. One of the most over-rated players ever. Wasn't even the best SS on his own team. A-Rod was a far superior defensive player.
    Not in his own division. Nomar was far better. If you don't know this, your baseball knowledge is severely lacking.

    Pretty sure his defense has nothing to do with his ability as a hitter but ok. Everyone chiming in here with their BS opinion about Pujols being "far superior" and no one has provided a single statistic to support that statement. And im talking actual batting statistics....not the stat nerd "what-if" numbers. ACTUAL statistics.

    Pujols had arguably the best 10 year stretch of any baseball player in the history of the sport, not sure what else you need. Are you not old enough to have remembered those years? Jeter isn't even in the same conversation as Pujols stat wise.

    Ok? But what makes him "far superior"? When someone says "far superior" i think of a comparison between someone like Pujols and someone like Chili Davis. Other-worldly vs average. And what good is a 10 year stretch when the rest of the years are good but nothing amazing? I didnt realize that the argument everyone was attempting to make was simply a 10 year sample size and not a full careers worth of work.

    Yea we can just ignore the fact that Jeter has more hits in 200 less games, a better CAREER batting average and OBP and just focus solely on the power numbers in a 10 year period and say Pujols was "far superior" to that career bench player Derek Jeter. 😐

    I'm a Red Sox fan and hate the Yankees with a passion, but this is my take:

    Both Pujols and Jeter have one CLEAR advantage over the other:

    Stat-heads will favor Pujols because their individual stats aren't close.

    Traditional fans and those that value winning, will clearly favor Jeter. There's no way Pujols impacted his team overall more positively than Jeter.

    They're both All-time greats but for different reasons.

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    Oh wait....i found something other than power numbers where Pujols was "far superior" to Jeter. He grounded into the most double plays of all time.

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    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @djpearl23_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    In what world does Pujols have "far superior" numbers to Jeter?

    Power numbers, sure. But to say he's "far superior" to Jeter is a ludicrous statement.

    In the real world. I have watched and played baseball since the 70's. Cabrera and Pujols are two of the best hitters I have ever seen.

    Jeter would have been nothing had he not played in NY. One of the most over-rated players ever. Wasn't even the best SS on his own team. A-Rod was a far superior defensive player.
    Not in his own division. Nomar was far better. If you don't know this, your baseball knowledge is severely lacking.

    Pretty sure his defense has nothing to do with his ability as a hitter but ok. Everyone chiming in here with their BS opinion about Pujols being "far superior" and no one has provided a single statistic to support that statement. And im talking actual batting statistics....not the stat nerd "what-if" numbers. ACTUAL statistics.

    Pujols had arguably the best 10 year stretch of any baseball player in the history of the sport, not sure what else you need. Are you not old enough to have remembered those years? Jeter isn't even in the same conversation as Pujols stat wise.

    Ok? But what makes him "far superior"? When someone says "far superior" i think of a comparison between someone like Pujols and someone like Chili Davis. Other-worldly vs average. And what good is a 10 year stretch when the rest of the years are good but nothing amazing? I didnt realize that the argument everyone was attempting to make was simply a 10 year sample size and not a full careers worth of work.

    Yea we can just ignore the fact that Jeter has more hits in 200 less games, a better CAREER batting average and OBP and just focus solely on the power numbers in a 10 year period and say Pujols was "far superior" to that career bench player Derek Jeter. 😐

    Yeah sure, you win, Derek Jeter is so much better than Pujols. I am not gonna waste time arguing with a wall.

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    @djpearl23_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @djpearl23_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    In what world does Pujols have "far superior" numbers to Jeter?

    Power numbers, sure. But to say he's "far superior" to Jeter is a ludicrous statement.

    In the real world. I have watched and played baseball since the 70's. Cabrera and Pujols are two of the best hitters I have ever seen.

    Jeter would have been nothing had he not played in NY. One of the most over-rated players ever. Wasn't even the best SS on his own team. A-Rod was a far superior defensive player.
    Not in his own division. Nomar was far better. If you don't know this, your baseball knowledge is severely lacking.

    Pretty sure his defense has nothing to do with his ability as a hitter but ok. Everyone chiming in here with their BS opinion about Pujols being "far superior" and no one has provided a single statistic to support that statement. And im talking actual batting statistics....not the stat nerd "what-if" numbers. ACTUAL statistics.

    Pujols had arguably the best 10 year stretch of any baseball player in the history of the sport, not sure what else you need. Are you not old enough to have remembered those years? Jeter isn't even in the same conversation as Pujols stat wise.

    Ok? But what makes him "far superior"? When someone says "far superior" i think of a comparison between someone like Pujols and someone like Chili Davis. Other-worldly vs average. And what good is a 10 year stretch when the rest of the years are good but nothing amazing? I didnt realize that the argument everyone was attempting to make was simply a 10 year sample size and not a full careers worth of work.

    Yea we can just ignore the fact that Jeter has more hits in 200 less games, a better CAREER batting average and OBP and just focus solely on the power numbers in a 10 year period and say Pujols was "far superior" to that career bench player Derek Jeter. 😐

    Yeah sure, you win, Derek Jeter is so much better than Pujols. I am not gonna waste time arguing with a wall.

    I mean i never said Jeter was "so much better" than Pujols. You windbags were the ones throwing around the "far superior" BS.

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    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    In what world does Pujols have "far superior" numbers to Jeter?

    Power numbers, sure. But to say he's "far superior" to Jeter is a ludicrous statement.

    In the real world. I have watched and played baseball since the 70's. Cabrera and Pujols are two of the best hitters I have ever seen.

    Jeter would have been nothing had he not played in NY. One of the most over-rated players ever. Wasn't even the best SS on his own team. A-Rod was a far superior defensive player.
    Not in his own division. Nomar was far better. If you don't know this, your baseball knowledge is severely lacking.

    Pretty sure his defense has nothing to do with his ability as a hitter but ok. Everyone chiming in here with their BS opinion about Pujols being "far superior" and no one has provided a single statistic to support that statement. And im talking actual batting statistics....not the stat nerd "what-if" numbers. ACTUAL statistics.

    Where are the stats you have to support your statement? It's not other people's job to prove you wrong when you didn't provide a single shred of evidence lol.

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    It's not a hard concept, really. If guys have cards that already compete with POTM rating max, they won't get it.

    This entire firestorm is akin to the why-haven't-I-pulled-a-diamond rants.

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    @chuck_dizzle29 said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    In what world does Pujols have "far superior" numbers to Jeter?

    Power numbers, sure. But to say he's "far superior" to Jeter is a ludicrous statement.

    In the real world. I have watched and played baseball since the 70's. Cabrera and Pujols are two of the best hitters I have ever seen.

    Jeter would have been nothing had he not played in NY. One of the most over-rated players ever. Wasn't even the best SS on his own team. A-Rod was a far superior defensive player.
    Not in his own division. Nomar was far better. If you don't know this, your baseball knowledge is severely lacking.

    Pretty sure his defense has nothing to do with his ability as a hitter but ok. Everyone chiming in here with their BS opinion about Pujols being "far superior" and no one has provided a single statistic to support that statement. And im talking actual batting statistics....not the stat nerd "what-if" numbers. ACTUAL statistics.

    Where are the stats you have to support your statement? It's not other people's job to prove you wrong when you didn't provide a single shred of evidence lol.

    Tell me you didnt read the previous posts without telling me you didnt read the previous posts. But i'll humor and post actual statistics.

    ABs :
    Jeter - 11,195
    Pujols - 11,204

    Runs :
    Jeter - 1923
    Pujols - 1883

    Hits :
    Jeter - 3465
    Pujols - 3320

    Doubles :
    Jeter - 544
    Pujols - 674

    Triples :
    Jeter - 66
    Pujols - 16

    Batting Average :
    Jeter - .310
    Pujols -.296

    OBP :
    Jeter - .377
    Pujols - .375

    Again, we all know Pujols has the power numbers so im not gonna bother there....but im still waiting for someone to show me the part where he is a "far superior" hitter in something other than power stats and GDP. Also, in the real world when someone makes a statement its usually up to them to support their statement. Ive asked multiple times to see examples but all they seem to do is say dumb [censored] like "durrr are u not olds enough to 'member this?"

    And no idgaf about the BS "this stat adjusted for weather, ballpark size, pitchers throwing mechanics and crowd size" make believe nerd stats

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    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @chuck_dizzle29 said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    In what world does Pujols have "far superior" numbers to Jeter?

    Power numbers, sure. But to say he's "far superior" to Jeter is a ludicrous statement.

    In the real world. I have watched and played baseball since the 70's. Cabrera and Pujols are two of the best hitters I have ever seen.

    Jeter would have been nothing had he not played in NY. One of the most over-rated players ever. Wasn't even the best SS on his own team. A-Rod was a far superior defensive player.
    Not in his own division. Nomar was far better. If you don't know this, your baseball knowledge is severely lacking.

    Pretty sure his defense has nothing to do with his ability as a hitter but ok. Everyone chiming in here with their BS opinion about Pujols being "far superior" and no one has provided a single statistic to support that statement. And im talking actual batting statistics....not the stat nerd "what-if" numbers. ACTUAL statistics.

    Where are the stats you have to support your statement? It's not other people's job to prove you wrong when you didn't provide a single shred of evidence lol.

    Tell me you didnt read the previous posts without telling me you didnt read the previous posts. But i'll humor and post actual statistics.

    ABs :
    Jeter - 11,195
    Pujols - 11,204

    Runs :
    Jeter - 1923
    Pujols - 1883

    Hits :
    Jeter - 3465
    Pujols - 3320

    Doubles :
    Jeter - 544
    Pujols - 674

    Triples :
    Jeter - 66
    Pujols - 16

    Batting Average :
    Jeter - .310
    Pujols -.296

    OBP :
    Jeter - .377
    Pujols - .375

    Again, we all know Pujols has the power numbers so im not gonna bother there....but im still waiting for someone to show me the part where he is a "far superior" hitter in something other than power stats and GDP. Also, in the real world when someone makes a statement its usually up to them to support their statement. Ive asked multiple times to see examples but all they seem to do is say dumb [censored] like "durrr are u not olds enough to 'member this?"

    And no idgaf about the BS "this stat adjusted for weather, ballpark size, pitchers throwing mechanics and crowd size" make believe nerd stats

    So you set the parameters and what stats you are willing to accept. Confirmation bias, it's not worth anyone's time 🤪.

    I'll humor for the sake of fun.

    Albert Pujols is a 3 time MVP and a career bWAR of 99.4 to Jeter's 71.3. The production isn't even close despite the few stats you cherry picked, and they are miniscule. Jeter's best seasons offensively are ho hum compared to Albert.

    Yea so Albert got zapped by injuries, but if you break down their primes, Albert was beating Jeter's brains out in every stat except triples and steals. More hits, more doubles, more HRs, higher OBP, higher Slug.

    Heck Pujols has never struck out more than 93 times in a season. Jeter struck out over 100 times in 9 different seasons. For 10 straight season Albert had more BBs than strikeouts.

    It was a bloodbath, flawless victory.

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    Aren't they the same age though?

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