These new programs....kinda stink tbh
-
@ohmslyce3931_xbl said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
I much preferred last year's inning programs and stat based missions for each card you earned as opposed to slogging through this crappy "Earn PXP with these players" missions. Change my mind or help me to see this is a better system,, SDS.
Honestly I think it’s just to make people use cards that they typically wouldn’t use which creates more lineup diversity. For example, I was building an events lineup and putting utley, Howard, etc in the lineup to get the xp. Yes, I have better players at those positions but I don’t really offline grind so that’s how I attain it.
-
@mrwonderful95 said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
@ohmslyce3931_xbl said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
I much preferred last year's inning programs and stat based missions for each card you earned as opposed to slogging through this crappy "Earn PXP with these players" missions. Change my mind or help me to see this is a better system,, SDS.
Honestly I think it’s just to make people use cards that they typically wouldn’t use which creates more lineup diversity. For example, I was building an events lineup and putting utley, Howard, etc in the lineup to get the xp. Yes, I have better players at those positions but I don’t really offline grind so that’s how I attain it.
This…
I played an event game yesterday with 67 Howard and first and that 74 Delgado or whatever in left, with gold holiday pitching. Won the game, Howard hit a HR, holiday pitched 2 innings. Way more fun the playing vs CPU, and events games records don’t matter.
-
@tonythetiger2k16 said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
IMO the program itself is not the issue. What is the issue to me is the path line of rewards. They just do not "WOW" me. The dont excite me or motivate me to go thru the grind of getting 500K to 750K in XP to complete it for the final grand reward. This Program right now only needs 500K to complete it, but it also ends in 13 days. So we have to rush a grind to get 500K in XP & I doubt they will kick in Double XP earnings next week. I am just very disappointed so far with 22
Look at that final 100k tho... It's 20 total packs and not worth the purposeful grind
My problem is that I grinded hard to finish the last program and burned myself out after finishing at 700k there
-
All these Show Pack Bundles of 3, 5, 10, 15 or even 20 which are given as rewards mean NOTHING if you dont pull anything of any Value at all from them. With tbe last Program I was so P****D OFF due to grinding out 750K in XP to complete it, got all those Show Pack Bundles, all those HL & BIAH Packs & I got NOTHING!!!!!!!! Therefore Show Packs as a Grand Final Reward is horrible because you just Grinded out to finish that entire progran to just rely on odds of pulling something good which is NOT likely to happen with most. Only some are lucky with getting great cards pulled ir getting Chase Packs & getting great pulls from those.
-
Didn't mind the FOTF and Spring Cleaning programs but this one is buns. I suppose Philly fans like it but otherwise yikes.
-
Just like the inning programs the grand prize ends a little over half way thru. In this case well before 200k xp for the grand prize. You don’t have to grind past that. So anyone saying it’s a mindless grind, well yes, it is. After 200k it’s just packs. If you value packs then go for it. Me I’ll take my time and get my Doc card. Everything else is gravy.
This isn’t much different than the inning program. It’s the same package with a different bow.
-
@quinnymcquinn said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
Just like the inning programs the grand prize ends a little over half way thru. In this case well before 200k xp for the grand prize. You don’t have to grind past that. So anyone saying it’s a mindless grind, well yes, it is. After 200k it’s just packs. If you value packs then go for it. Me I’ll take my time and get my Doc card. Everything else is gravy.
This isn’t much different than the inning program. It’s the same package with a different bow.
Exactly
The issue is not with the program it with everyone expections of what the main reward is SDS makes the main reward at 200k xp but provides additional loot after that for those that continue to play the game.
If your goal is to complete the program to its max then that is on you SDS has laid out that the main reward is at 200k xp if you have expections of bigger rewards after that then it's your expections that need to be readjusted.
Note that SDS has added 2 packs into this reward path we haven't seen yet in the cover and Takashi packs which are really good value still. I don't understand what this player base wants
-
@quinnymcquinn said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
Just like the inning programs the grand prize ends a little over half way thru. In this case well before 200k xp for the grand prize. You don’t have to grind past that. So anyone saying it’s a mindless grind, well yes, it is. After 200k it’s just packs. If you value packs then go for it. Me I’ll take my time and get my Doc card. Everything else is gravy.
This isn’t much different than the inning program. It’s the same package with a different bow.
But the difference is that the packs at the end were choice packs. You got to see what you could choose from pending if it was split with a Rare Pack or Standard Pack. It was not just ONLY Show Packs, HL's or BAIH's that will most times ONLY give at best a Gold Card.
-
@tonythetiger2k16 said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
@quinnymcquinn said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
Just like the inning programs the grand prize ends a little over half way thru. In this case well before 200k xp for the grand prize. You don’t have to grind past that. So anyone saying it’s a mindless grind, well yes, it is. After 200k it’s just packs. If you value packs then go for it. Me I’ll take my time and get my Doc card. Everything else is gravy.
This isn’t much different than the inning program. It’s the same package with a different bow.
But the difference is that the packs at the end were choice packs. You got to see what you could choose from pending if it was split with a Rare Pack or Standard Pack. It was not just ONLY Show Packs, HL's or BAIH's that will most times ONLY give at best a Gold Card.
You mean the 85-89 Live series pack that everyone cried about.
Here are the last 4 rewards in the 3rd inning program last year
560,000 XP – Diamond Ballplayer choice pack
590,000 XP – Space 3 pack
620,000 XP – The Show pack (x10)
650,000 XP – Diamond Live series player (85-89 overall)We had the same arguments last year from the community that if you maxed out the reward wasn't worth it but it will always be that way cause SDS isn't going to devalue the main reward in the same program. Again we are talking about expectations here that people want the maxed out reward to be better then the actually reward it's expectations that need to be adjusted not the rewards
-
@tonythetiger2k16 said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
@quinnymcquinn said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
Just like the inning programs the grand prize ends a little over half way thru. In this case well before 200k xp for the grand prize. You don’t have to grind past that. So anyone saying it’s a mindless grind, well yes, it is. After 200k it’s just packs. If you value packs then go for it. Me I’ll take my time and get my Doc card. Everything else is gravy.
This isn’t much different than the inning program. It’s the same package with a different bow.
But the difference is that the packs at the end were choice packs. You got to see what you could choose from pending if it was split with a Rare Pack or Standard Pack. It was not just ONLY Show Packs, HL's or BAIH's that will most times ONLY give at best a Gold Card.
Yea but how are you going to spend most of your game time playing the market without all those duplicates from those packs?.
-
3rd inning program and the Halladay program rewards the same number of Show packs/HL/BIAH packs with 49
-
@jeezy-e_psn said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
@tonythetiger2k16 said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
@quinnymcquinn said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
Just like the inning programs the grand prize ends a little over half way thru. In this case well before 200k xp for the grand prize. You don’t have to grind past that. So anyone saying it’s a mindless grind, well yes, it is. After 200k it’s just packs. If you value packs then go for it. Me I’ll take my time and get my Doc card. Everything else is gravy.
This isn’t much different than the inning program. It’s the same package with a different bow.
But the difference is that the packs at the end were choice packs. You got to see what you could choose from pending if it was split with a Rare Pack or Standard Pack. It was not just ONLY Show Packs, HL's or BAIH's that will most times ONLY give at best a Gold Card.
Yea but how are you going to spend most of your game time playing the market without all those duplicates from those packs?.
There is NO MARKET Value on Common, Bronze or Silver Cards. As well 80% of the Gold Cards are worth nothing over the Quick Sell Value. So even if EVERY repeat were sold per each Pack opened. It will average out to be about 400 to 700 in stubs based on how many of each tier was pulled in that pack. Most packs always has Free Agents which have even lower market value.
-
@tonythetiger2k16 said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
@jeezy-e_psn said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
@tonythetiger2k16 said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
@quinnymcquinn said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
Just like the inning programs the grand prize ends a little over half way thru. In this case well before 200k xp for the grand prize. You don’t have to grind past that. So anyone saying it’s a mindless grind, well yes, it is. After 200k it’s just packs. If you value packs then go for it. Me I’ll take my time and get my Doc card. Everything else is gravy.
This isn’t much different than the inning program. It’s the same package with a different bow.
But the difference is that the packs at the end were choice packs. You got to see what you could choose from pending if it was split with a Rare Pack or Standard Pack. It was not just ONLY Show Packs, HL's or BAIH's that will most times ONLY give at best a Gold Card.
Yea but how are you going to spend most of your game time playing the market without all those duplicates from those packs?.
There is NO MARKET Value on Common, Bronze or Silver Cards. As well 80% of the Gold Cards are worth nothing over the Quick Sell Value. So even if EVERY repeat were sold per each Pack opened. It will average out to be about 400 to 700 in stubs based on how many of each tier was pulled in that pack. Most packs always has Free Agents which have even lower market value.
But the market reflects as cards don't cost as much as they use to BR cards that are no long in the pack can be scooped up for 45 to 35k last year those were 100k plus cards so it's not like we make less stubs but everything cost more it's all.worked in balance
-
@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
I don't understand what this player base wants
To quote Tony Montana..."The world, chico. And everything in it."
Seriously...a lot of people in here will never be satisfied. They could give a 99 Babe Ruth at 750K xp and they would still complain that everyone else has him. Like they all want some rare reward that no one else can get or something. They complain that its hard to get money/stubs in this game...then they complain about getting
checks list
7 Headliners packs
3 Big Dog packs
5 BIAH packs
1 Cover pack
1 Takhashi pack
25 Show packsTo me, that looks like at least 5 guaranteed diamonds that you can keep or sell for at least 60K stubs depending on the pulls and market value....plus most likely dupes you can sell, and at least 5 golds you can sell. All for playing a game.
-
I think the pxp missions are fine, better than the 2018 stat grind. It would be nice if they lowered them a little though. 200 for position player would be better
-
@easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
I don't understand what this player base wants
To quote Tony Montana..."The world, chico. And everything in it."
Seriously...a lot of people in here will never be satisfied. They could give a 99 Babe Ruth at 750K xp and they would still complain that everyone else has him. Like they all want some rare reward that no one else can get or something. They complain that its hard to get money/stubs in this game...then they complain about getting
checks list
7 Headliners packs
3 Big Dog packs
5 BIAH packs
1 Cover pack
1 Takhashi pack
25 Show packsTo me, that looks like at least 5 guaranteed diamonds that you can keep or sell for at least 60K stubs depending on the pulls and market value....plus most likely dupes you can sell, and at least 5 golds you can sell. All for playing a game.
100% just solid rewards in this program then in 2 weeks we get a whole program with rewards like it's just alptmpf fun
-
@tonythetiger2k16 said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
This Program right now only needs 500K to complete it, but it also ends in 13 days. So we have to rush a grind to get 500K in XP & I doubt they will kick in Double XP earnings next week.
See, there lies the difference between players. To me the program needs 200K to complete it. That is when you get the Boss reward. That is also probably what SDS considers completion.
It is fine if you want to get all the way to the end to get all of the bonuses but don't pretend like it is mandatory or that you are somehow required to get there.
After the first program people were complaining that they finished tooo quickly and that the bonus rewards were not carried out far enough. So SDS actually listened and greatly extended the bonuses after the boss pack and now people are complaining that it is too much to get done in the time allotted.
-
@dantheranman_xbl said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
@tonythetiger2k16 said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
IMO the program itself is not the issue. What is the issue to me is the path line of rewards. They just do not "WOW" me. The dont excite me or motivate me to go thru the grind of getting 500K to 750K in XP to complete it for the final grand reward. This Program right now only needs 500K to complete it, but it also ends in 13 days. So we have to rush a grind to get 500K in XP & I doubt they will kick in Double XP earnings next week. I am just very disappointed so far with 22
Look at that final 100k tho... It's 20 total packs and not worth the purposeful grind
My problem is that I grinded hard to finish the last program and burned myself out after finishing at 700k there
But the last 100k is just bonus. Think of the final reward as Haliday. They put the rest of the path in there because people were complaining their xp was being wasted. I know everyone wants to see a LS 90 plus choice pack but it way too early to tank the market with something like that.
-
I kinda like the weird hybrid system we have. This Halladay Program feels like one of those old Immortal Programs combined with an inning program.
@mubby_33_psn said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
@dantheranman_xbl said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
@tonythetiger2k16 said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
IMO the program itself is not the issue. What is the issue to me is the path line of rewards. They just do not "WOW" me. The dont excite me or motivate me to go thru the grind of getting 500K to 750K in XP to complete it for the final grand reward. This Program right now only needs 500K to complete it, but it also ends in 13 days. So we have to rush a grind to get 500K in XP & I doubt they will kick in Double XP earnings next week. I am just very disappointed so far with 22
Look at that final 100k tho... It's 20 total packs and not worth the purposeful grind
My problem is that I grinded hard to finish the last program and burned myself out after finishing at 700k there
But the last 100k is just bonus. Think of the final reward as Haliday. They put the rest of the path in there because people were complaining their xp was being wasted. I know everyone wants to see a LS 90 plus choice pack but it way too early to tank the market with something like that.
I think of the end point being the Art choice back (Mantle/Utley/Rickey/Randy/Vlad), since after that I think is just 5 pack bundles
-
@ohmslyce3931_xbl said in These new programs....kinda stink tbh:
I much preferred last year's inning programs and stat based missions for each card you earned as opposed to slogging through this crappy "Earn PXP with these players" missions. Change my mind or help me to see this is a better system,, SDS.
I've said this in other threads but I MUCH prefer it. First of all for pitchers it's basically the same as last year, one or two 3-inning games and you're done. However pitchers are "broken" this year when it's come to the large missions where you need a huge chunk of pxp for a certain team or card type. They get 40 just for an inning, 10 for each k, 20 for wins, holds, saves. It piles up super super fast.
As for hitters, this probably does take a bit more time, but I still prefer it to "5 extra base hits" with this guy and "3 home runs" with that guy. I hate having to keep track of who needs to do what, and I hate feeling like I have to press and power swing and then get annoyed when a guy needs home runs and flies out to the track or goes 3-3 and none of it matters. The way it is now you just stick the guy in the lineup and forget about it, soon enough it'll be done. And you at least get 10 per at bat plus you know you're getting credit for every hit, every run, rbi, etc. Again vs needing HRs and then you don't get a home run and it was entirely a waste of time.
