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    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?

    5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymore

    The league has absolutely 0 incentive to actually catch players using steroids.
    Agents have contacts in the league office and youre naive if you don’t believe they hand over a list to those agents of all the players subject to a test. Tests can be cheated.
    I have a friend who’s brother played in the nfl and said he knows zero guys not on steroids in the nfl.
    I play college baseball and can confirm the vast majority of guys in college are juicing

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    I'm skeptical about this claim... With testing now you need designer PEDs to avoid detection. You can't just take run of the mill stimulants or steroids anymore. It's probably confined to a select group who are well connected. I especially doubt they advertise they do it.

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    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @yankblan_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    True, the agencies are always playing catch up

    Exactly. Always have been always will be.

    Absolutely. I'll take the "over"...

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    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
    5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymore

    That's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.

    It’s not that much more than we think, there’s probably a few more but it’s probably less than 50 guys if I had to guess

    You're young and probably still a little naive Kieran. Nothing wrong with that of course, but you probably haven't had the life experience yet where you learn that people will do MANY things to secure a pay check or excel in a very strong competitive environment.

    lol call me young because you don't have an actual argument. We're both adults boss

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    @duiaintez_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    I'm skeptical about this claim... With testing now you need designer PEDs to avoid detection. You can't just take run of the mill stimulants or steroids anymore. It's probably confined to a select group who are well connected. I especially doubt they advertise they do it.

    Yeah for real, the risk of getting caught leads me to believe it's a lot less than commonplace

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    @yankblan_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
    5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymore

    That's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.

    It’s not that much more than we think, there’s probably a few more but it’s probably less than 50 guys if I had to guess

    You’re naive, but it’s ok to be when you’re young; I truly believed Big Mac in 98 when he said he only took andro…

    Next you're gonna say the Hulkster did more than pray and take his vitamins!

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    I think it is safe to say there will never be as widespread use as during the 80s and 90s.

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    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
    5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymore

    That's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.

    It’s not that much more than we think, there’s probably a few more but it’s probably less than 50 guys if I had to guess

    You're young and probably still a little naive Kieran. Nothing wrong with that of course, but you probably haven't had the life experience yet where you learn that people will do MANY things to secure a pay check or excel in a very strong competitive environment.

    lol call me young because you don't have an actual argument. We're both adults boss

    See, your sensitive reaction shows your immaturity. It's an unnecessary response because I did make an argument, more than 1 actually.

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    @hikes83_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    This just gave my Jays an even better shot at making the playoffs.

    BTW, I secured tickets in Toronto when they host the A’s in September. 2 years without any games in Toronto. I’m going to the Friday night and Saturday afternoon games. Can’t wait!!!

    Have fun man!

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    @duiaintez_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    I'm skeptical about this claim... With testing now you need designer PEDs to avoid detection. You can't just take run of the mill stimulants or steroids anymore. It's probably confined to a select group who are well connected. I especially doubt they advertise they do it.

    The PEDs themselves did not change, they still work the same. However, doctors have found ways to mask it and pass tests by using other supplements that aren't illegal at the same time. The main goal is to make the samples turn out "normal". Just take a look at Lance Armstrong for example. There is no stricter testing than in the world of cycling, and he fooled the system and everyone in it for many many years. And the same sentiment lives in that sport; it's not a question of who's on PEDs but who eventually gets caught.

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    @yankblan_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
    5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymore

    That's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.

    It’s not that much more than we think, there’s probably a few more but it’s probably less than 50 guys if I had to guess

    You’re naive, but it’s ok to be when you’re young; I truly believed Big Mac in 98 when he said he only took andro…

    I believed him too, and I remained in denial all the way up to like 2005 I think it was when he testified in front of congress. Wasn't easy coming to terms with the fact that my childhood hero was a disgrace to the game.

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  • jacksonvance35J Offline
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    Look at mike trout the day he was drafted and then when he made his big league debut. Traps don’t swell like that without a little help😂randy arozarena gained 15 pounds of muscle in a few short months!!

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    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
    5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymore

    That's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.

    It’s not that much more than we think, there’s probably a few more but it’s probably less than 50 guys if I had to guess

    You're young and probably still a little naive Kieran. Nothing wrong with that of course, but you probably haven't had the life experience yet where you learn that people will do MANY things to secure a pay check or excel in a very strong competitive environment.

    lol call me young because you don't have an actual argument. We're both adults boss

    See, your sensitive reaction shows your immaturity. It's an unnecessary response because I did make an argument, more than 1 actually.

    Nah boss, you’re just making guesstimatations about something you really known nothing about just because of how it was 30 years ago, I’m using logic and coming to the conclusion that because of the high risk and the fact that we’ve had less suspensions, it’s less frequent then you think

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    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
    5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymore

    That's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.

    It’s not that much more than we think, there’s probably a few more but it’s probably less than 50 guys if I had to guess

    You're young and probably still a little naive Kieran. Nothing wrong with that of course, but you probably haven't had the life experience yet where you learn that people will do MANY things to secure a pay check or excel in a very strong competitive environment.

    lol call me young because you don't have an actual argument. We're both adults boss

    See, your sensitive reaction shows your immaturity. It's an unnecessary response because I did make an argument, more than 1 actually.

    Nah boss, you’re just making guesstimatations about something you really known nothing about just because of how it was 30 years ago, I’m using logic and coming to the conclusion that because of the high risk and the fact that we’ve had less suspensions, it’s less frequent then you think

    How do you know? I'm 32 years old, I've been around semi-pro athletes since I was 16 because I played at a high level myself. I can tell you for a fact that it's common at every level. You're a young man who hasn't even started college yet, what do you know?

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    @jacksonvance35 said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?

    5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymore

    The league has absolutely 0 incentive to actually catch players using steroids.
    Agents have contacts in the league office and youre naive if you don’t believe they hand over a list to those agents of all the players subject to a test. Tests can be cheated.
    I have a friend who’s brother played in the nfl and said he knows zero guys not on steroids in the nfl.
    I play college baseball and can confirm the vast majority of guys in college are juicing

    The fact that the league has 0 incentive and still guys like Laureano get busted shows it’s not commonplace

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  • raesONE_PSNR Offline
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    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @jacksonvance35 said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?

    5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymore

    The league has absolutely 0 incentive to actually catch players using steroids.
    Agents have contacts in the league office and youre naive if you don’t believe they hand over a list to those agents of all the players subject to a test. Tests can be cheated.
    I have a friend who’s brother played in the nfl and said he knows zero guys not on steroids in the nfl.
    I play college baseball and can confirm the vast majority of guys in college are juicing

    The fact that the league has 0 incentive and still guys like Laureano get busted shows it’s not commonplace

    Come on man, you like to use logic as you claim. Sometimes people mess up and forget to take the supplement to mask the PEDs or take a wrong dose or whatever and they slip through the mandatory tests. Watch Screwball on Netflix and come back to this thread with a fresh perspective.

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    @jacksonvance35 said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    @kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?

    5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymore

    The league has absolutely 0 incentive to actually catch players using steroids.
    Agents have contacts in the league office and youre naive if you don’t believe they hand over a list to those agents of all the players subject to a test. Tests can be cheated.
    I have a friend who’s brother played in the nfl and said he knows zero guys not on steroids in the nfl.
    I play college baseball and can confirm the vast majority of guys in college are juicing

    I don’t agree with this, after playing at 2 different D1s and a junior college (where they don’t even test for steroids) over the course of 5 years and very few people did. Especially in NCAA because drug test are random and a steroid fail is a year suspension no questions asked.

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    @jacksonvance35 said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    Look at mike trout the day he was drafted and then when he made his big league debut. Traps don’t swell like that without a little help😂randy arozarena gained 15 pounds of muscle in a few short months!!

    Also not sure if this is confirmed or not but I think trout has an HGH exemption for a thyroid issue. So yes he had help, but the league approved it apparently

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    Why are all you so offended this guy took steroids. Steroids don’t put in the work for you.

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    @codywolfgang_xbl said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:

    Why are all you so offended this guy took steroids. Steroids don’t put in the work for you.

    I'm not offended at all, Barry Bonds is my favorite player of all time. So I really don't care.

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