eroding margins in the Market
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It's a minor annoyance to be sure, and I feel like the Sell now feature is there explicitly for the people who want to get rid of that card ASAP, but it's not something I'm going to freak out over. I'll just list my card at more expensive, and if I see bonus stubs I'll buy the big undercut cards and sell them at the higher price.
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I also think the sell now feature bug that’s happening right now doesn’t help. People afraid of just getting quicksell value. So when opening their packs, by seeing the sell now price is 30K, they might manually list it at 32K while the actually lowest sell order is closer to 35K
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@ny_giants4_life said in eroding margins in the Market:
@mathman5072_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
@ny_giants4_life said in eroding margins in the Market:
@raylewissb47_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
There’s an influx of cards right now because of the bundle SDS just gave out. You’ll just have to wait until it levels out again.
No i get that, I just dont understand why anyone would see a listing for 50k and then decide to list theirs for 43k. doesnt make sense
I’ll do this if I want the stubs now, but I also know that I can get a few more stubs than if I chose just sell now. So, instead of waiting 40 minutes for 3000 extra stubs, I can get 1000 extra stubs in two minutes.
you know most of the time you only have to wait like 5 minutes. All youre doing is driving the price down bc the next five people all underbid each other and it keeps going. I just witnessed chapmans buy now at 50k and someone put in an order at 43k while his sell now was 42k. Like what?
This is happening because of the sell now being broken in packs, it still lets you post on the marketplace for cards in the pack so people are just putting in a sell order just higher than the sell now instead of just backing out to the market
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@hikes83_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
I also think the sell now feature bug that’s happening right now doesn’t help. People afraid of just getting quicksell value. So when opening their packs, by seeing the sell now price is 30K, they might manually list it at 32K while the actually lowest sell order is closer to 35K
^^^^^This is why its happening
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People also make costly mistakes. My absolute favorite is (for example) a card with a 40,000 Buy Now, 34,000 Sell Now price. Doofus puts up a card for sale at 34,001, where they clearly meant to put up a buy order instead. You buy the card, list it immediately at 39,900 and make a couple thousand easy stubs.
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People also don't want to micromanage their orders. You might be fine undercutting the the lowest order by 5 stubs every 20 minutes. Someone else just wants to sell the card so they'll sacrifice a few stubs to move the card fast.
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@asocial_grace said in eroding margins in the Market:
People also make costly mistakes. My absolute favorite is (for example) a card with a 40,000 Buy Now, 34,000 Sell Now price. Doofus puts up a card for sale at 34,001, where they clearly meant to put up a buy order instead. You buy the card, list it immediately at 39,900 and make a couple thousand easy stubs.
I do this all the time. love when people mess up like this
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You know, if there is a big gap because someone outbids largely to sell through quick, you can always make a normal bid just better than the second best bid.
If you’re not in a huge hurry you will get a better margin AND help everyone else out while getting things back on track.
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@halfbutt_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
You know, if there is a big gap because someone outbids largely to sell through quick, you can always make a normal bid just better than the second best bid.
If you’re not in a huge hurry you will get a better margin AND help everyone else out while getting things back on track.
Typically if someone massively undercuts I'll buy theirs too and just make the same profit I would've anyway. its nbd for me, just confusing as to why people would sell themselves short bc they dont want to wait 3 minutes
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It’s funny how a lot of market flippers get mad at impatient people but don’t understand that they’d never sell a card if it weren’t for people being impatient and hitting “buy now” on their cards.
Some people value their time more than a few stubs.
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@nash_524_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
It’s funny how a lot of market flippers get mad at impatient people but don’t understand that they’d never sell a card if it weren’t for people being impatient and hitting “buy now” on their cards.
Some people value their time more than a few stubs.
the question at hand wasn't about impatience. it was the massive undercuts that was tanking certain cards that seemed to make no sense. I didnt know if there was a specific reason this was happening other than impulsivity. It seems just a result from the free stubs bc i already am seeing it less and less.
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I would assume part of it is they open the pack and immediately list on the market without actually seeing prices....it's been a good way for me to make a few extra stubs lately. Also can we do away with the 10% tax because I am starting to feel bad buying things for less that quicksell
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@ny_giants4_life said in eroding margins in the Market:
@jaytal6_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
When it comes to the market, people are going to do what they're going to do. Only thing you can do is try to find a way to work around it. There's plenty of stubs to be had by anyone who plays the market.
I agree and im not trying to regulate how people play the market. I Just dont know why people would do that or maybe I was missing some type of tactic
It's no tactic; people are simply impatient. It's the same reason MLB is destroying the game of baseball; because of impatience. Everyone has to get immediate satisfaction now. I used to love buying tickets for doubleheaders booked BEFORE the season started; it was a DAY at the ballpark. People can't even watch a game at a stadium now without looking at their phone. They don't understand the intricacies of the batter/pitcher matchup. You can still get value on cards, just put it out there and be patient. It may take a few hours, may take a few days, but it WILL sell.
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@ny_giants4_life said in eroding margins in the Market:
@raylewissb47_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
There’s an influx of cards right now because of the bundle SDS just gave out. You’ll just have to wait until it levels out again.
No i get that, I just dont understand why anyone would see a listing for 50k and then decide to list theirs for 43k. doesnt make sense
Some people just don't care about 5k here and 3k there. Just post your card, get your stubs in 2 minutes and move on. Never understood why people care what others do in an open market... my impatience is another person's gain. I will always post my cards the cheapest available... just to get it done, I don't care about scrounging up every stub I can... I don't stress about stubs whatsoever.... if I run out, I buy more.
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@pscrabro_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
@ny_giants4_life said in eroding margins in the Market:
@raylewissb47_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
There’s an influx of cards right now because of the bundle SDS just gave out. You’ll just have to wait until it levels out again.
No i get that, I just dont understand why anyone would see a listing for 50k and then decide to list theirs for 43k. doesnt make sense
Some people just don't care about 5k here and 3k there. Just post your card, get your stubs in 2 minutes and move on. Never understood why people care what others do in an open market... my impatience is another person's gain. I will always post my cards the cheapest available... just to get it done, I don't care about scrounging up every stub I can... I don't stress about stubs whatsoever.... if I run out, I buy more.
Have you not read the thread whatsoever? I have said multiple times I'm not trying to regulate how people work the market and I have no problem with it. It just didnt make sense to me and I wanted more context in case there was something going on in the market.
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@heater88_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
@ny_giants4_life said in eroding margins in the Market:
@jaytal6_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
When it comes to the market, people are going to do what they're going to do. Only thing you can do is try to find a way to work around it. There's plenty of stubs to be had by anyone who plays the market.
I agree and im not trying to regulate how people play the market. I Just dont know why people would do that or maybe I was missing some type of tactic
It's no tactic; people are simply impatient. It's the same reason MLB is destroying the game of baseball; because of impatience. Everyone has to get immediate satisfaction now. I used to love buying tickets for doubleheaders booked BEFORE the season started; it was a DAY at the ballpark. People can't even watch a game at a stadium now without looking at their phone. They don't understand the intricacies of the batter/pitcher matchup. You can still get value on cards, just put it out there and be patient. It may take a few hours, may take a few days, but it WILL sell.
It doesnt even take hours or days, if you just commit to the market you can make good amounts of stubs pretty fast. Idk about anyone else but i will gladly keep my money away from SDS and work the market for a hour net a ton of stubs. Doesnt mean my way is the right way though
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All I can say is that if someone has very limited time to play daily (1-2 hours), I’m sure they don’t want to spend half of it nickel and dimming 4-5 guys who undercut each other by 1-5 measly stubs. They want to post the card, sell it and actually play baseball as opposed to make believe NYSE
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@hikes83_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
All I can say is that if someone has very limited time to play daily (1-2 hours), I’m sure they don’t want to spend half of it nickel and dimming 4-5 guys who undercut each other by 1-5 measly stubs. They want to post the card, sell it and actually play baseball as opposed to make believe NYSE
you do know you can do exactly what you said, post the card and play. Go play a moment or something and the card is most likely sold. Im not saying everyone has to do this but I think there's a gross misunderstanding of how long cards move especially with so many new players. you can list like 5-6 cards and make thousands in the matter of like 10 minutes. The problem is people think you have to sit there and post order after order only moving the order 1 stub at a time. You dont have to do this to make stubs but do whatever makes you happy
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@ny_giants4_life said in eroding margins in the Market:
@pscrabro_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
@ny_giants4_life said in eroding margins in the Market:
@raylewissb47_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
There’s an influx of cards right now because of the bundle SDS just gave out. You’ll just have to wait until it levels out again.
No i get that, I just dont understand why anyone would see a listing for 50k and then decide to list theirs for 43k. doesnt make sense
Some people just don't care about 5k here and 3k there. Just post your card, get your stubs in 2 minutes and move on. Never understood why people care what others do in an open market... my impatience is another person's gain. I will always post my cards the cheapest available... just to get it done, I don't care about scrounging up every stub I can... I don't stress about stubs whatsoever.... if I run out, I buy more.
Have you not read the thread whatsoever? I have said multiple times I'm not trying to regulate how people work the market and I have no problem with it. It just didnt make sense to me and I wanted more context in case there was something going on in the market.
I read the thread and added my input as to why you see it. Not sure why your being combative about it... but anyways enjoy the rest of your day cupcake.
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@pscrabro_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
@ny_giants4_life said in eroding margins in the Market:
@pscrabro_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
@ny_giants4_life said in eroding margins in the Market:
@raylewissb47_psn said in eroding margins in the Market:
There’s an influx of cards right now because of the bundle SDS just gave out. You’ll just have to wait until it levels out again.
No i get that, I just dont understand why anyone would see a listing for 50k and then decide to list theirs for 43k. doesnt make sense
Some people just don't care about 5k here and 3k there. Just post your card, get your stubs in 2 minutes and move on. Never understood why people care what others do in an open market... my impatience is another person's gain. I will always post my cards the cheapest available... just to get it done, I don't care about scrounging up every stub I can... I don't stress about stubs whatsoever.... if I run out, I buy more.
Have you not read the thread whatsoever? I have said multiple times I'm not trying to regulate how people work the market and I have no problem with it. It just didnt make sense to me and I wanted more context in case there was something going on in the market.
I read the thread and added my input as to why you see it. Not sure why your being combative about it... but anyways enjoy the rest of your day cupcake.
added nothing of value. but thanks anyways ig
