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  • halfbutt_PSNH Offline
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    Well, that may work for you Mitch, since you can no doubt outhit most of your opponents.
    Some of us mere mortals need to limit free runners in scoring position.

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    @mitchhammond24 said in Why not just try to get better?:

    @halfbutt said in Why not just try to get better?:

    That could help.
    It would be great if there were some way these runner on first battles would not go on indefinitely.

    There is. You ignore it and pitch

    This is a great point, slide stepping with sliders will work specifically on the trolls

    Taking the time to learn to pitch with a slide step is one of the more underated skills someone can have in the game

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    A while ago I was in a deep BR run, and I played a free swinging guy who fit the profile you just described. I struck his Mondesi out with an offspeed pitch, since he was sitting heat all the way, and of course he reached 1st on a passed ball.

    Then the game within the game started. I was already annoyed that he reached on a K, and knew he was stealing at some point. So he took a step every single time and I threw it over to 1st every single time. Then he messaged me all angry saying "PITCH THE BALL SMH", which I replied to with saying "yeah I will once you stop taking that step". I'm not lying, this sequence continued for about 15 minutes before my pitcher decided to throw it behind the 1B on the 1000th pickoff move, giving him second base.

    Either way my point is this:
    The guy takes an extra step, I react to that by not pitching the ball but attempt a pickoff move. After this keeps going, he gets angry with me, as if I'm the toxic player in this situation? So basically he wants me to just give up second base to him. I get really annoyed with people like this.

    Sure, I won't do this every single time someone takes a lead. But if I notice you're one of those guys, I most definitely will. Want me to stop throwing over? Stop taking an extra step and stop blaming me. It's that simple.

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    @raesONE said in Why not just try to get better?:

    A while ago I was in a deep BR run, and I played a free swinging guy who fit the profile you just described. I struck his Mondesi out with an offspeed pitch, since he was sitting heat all the way, and of course he reached 1st on a passed ball.

    Then the game within the game started. I was already annoyed that he reached on a K, and knew he was stealing at some point. So he took a step every single time and I threw it over to 1st every single time. Then he messaged me all angry saying "PITCH THE BALL SMH", which I replied to with saying "yeah I will once you stop taking that step". I'm not lying, this sequence continued for about 15 minutes before my pitcher decided to throw it behind the 1B on the 1000th pickoff move, giving him second base.

    Either way my point is this:
    The guy takes an extra step, I react to that by not pitching the ball but attempt a pickoff move. After this keeps going, he gets angry with me, as if I'm the toxic player in this situation? So basically he wants me to just give up second base to him. I get really annoyed with people like this.

    Sure, I won't do this every single time someone takes a lead. But if I notice you're one of those guys, I most definitely will. Want me to stop throwing over? Stop taking an extra step and stop blaming me. It's that simple.

    This confuses me as well - and it's certainly not the first time I've heard/seen this happen.

    A substantial part of the playerbase seems to think that you should give them the extra lead and that any attempt at combating it is toxic. As if the game doesn't already give the runner a lead. To give any extra steps equals to giving a free extra base...

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    @raesONE said in Why not just try to get better?:

    A while ago I was in a deep BR run, and I played a free swinging guy who fit the profile you just described. I struck his Mondesi out with an offspeed pitch, since he was sitting heat all the way, and of course he reached 1st on a passed ball.

    Then the game within the game started. I was already annoyed that he reached on a K, and knew he was stealing at some point. So he took a step every single time and I threw it over to 1st every single time. Then he messaged me all angry saying "PITCH THE BALL SMH", which I replied to with saying "yeah I will once you stop taking that step". I'm not lying, this sequence continued for about 15 minutes before my pitcher decided to throw it behind the 1B on the 1000th pickoff move, giving him second base.

    Either way my point is this:
    The guy takes an extra step, I react to that by not pitching the ball but attempt a pickoff move. After this keeps going, he gets angry with me, as if I'm the toxic player in this situation? So basically he wants me to just give up second base to him. I get really annoyed with people like this.

    Sure, I won't do this every single time someone takes a lead. But if I notice you're one of those guys, I most definitely will. Want me to stop throwing over? Stop taking an extra step and stop blaming me. It's that simple.

    I’ve had this happen to me too. There are times where I will just keep stepping off until they stop taking the lead. I’ve had it go on for twenty minutes sometimes.

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    @SefarR said in Why not just try to get better?:

    @raesONE said in Why not just try to get better?:

    A while ago I was in a deep BR run, and I played a free swinging guy who fit the profile you just described. I struck his Mondesi out with an offspeed pitch, since he was sitting heat all the way, and of course he reached 1st on a passed ball.

    Then the game within the game started. I was already annoyed that he reached on a K, and knew he was stealing at some point. So he took a step every single time and I threw it over to 1st every single time. Then he messaged me all angry saying "PITCH THE BALL SMH", which I replied to with saying "yeah I will once you stop taking that step". I'm not lying, this sequence continued for about 15 minutes before my pitcher decided to throw it behind the 1B on the 1000th pickoff move, giving him second base.

    Either way my point is this:
    The guy takes an extra step, I react to that by not pitching the ball but attempt a pickoff move. After this keeps going, he gets angry with me, as if I'm the toxic player in this situation? So basically he wants me to just give up second base to him. I get really annoyed with people like this.

    Sure, I won't do this every single time someone takes a lead. But if I notice you're one of those guys, I most definitely will. Want me to stop throwing over? Stop taking an extra step and stop blaming me. It's that simple.

    This confuses me as well - and it's certainly not the first time I've heard/seen this happen.

    A substantial part of the playerbase seems to think that you should give them the extra lead and that any attempt at combating it is toxic. As if the game doesn't already give the runner a lead. To give any extra steps equals to giving a free extra base...

    Exactly. I'm just reacting to their initial move to take that extra lead. If they don't take that step, I'll just pitch the ball and continue the game without any issues, even if you end up stealing 10 bags on me. But don't blame me for reacting the way I'm supposed to.

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    Usually when I get into this situation, and it becomes clear after a few extra step-step off cycles that my opponent is going to continue, I actually set the stopwatch on my phone to see how long he will keep it up.

    While I take the point made about pitching with slide step, and I do alternately slide step, step off, throw over, etc, I am not going to just concede second base.

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    I just wanted to add that the people doing this usually can't hit a slide step for some reason

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    @raesONE said in Why not just try to get better?:

    A while ago I was in a deep BR run, and I played a free swinging guy who fit the profile you just described. I struck his Mondesi out with an offspeed pitch, since he was sitting heat all the way, and of course he reached 1st on a passed ball.

    Then the game within the game started. I was already annoyed that he reached on a K, and knew he was stealing at some point. So he took a step every single time and I threw it over to 1st every single time. Then he messaged me all angry saying "PITCH THE BALL SMH", which I replied to with saying "yeah I will once you stop taking that step". I'm not lying, this sequence continued for about 15 minutes before my pitcher decided to throw it behind the 1B on the 1000th pickoff move, giving him second base.

    Either way my point is this:
    The guy takes an extra step, I react to that by not pitching the ball but attempt a pickoff move. After this keeps going, he gets angry with me, as if I'm the toxic player in this situation? So basically he wants me to just give up second base to him. I get really annoyed with people like this.

    Sure, I won't do this every single time someone takes a lead. But if I notice you're one of those guys, I most definitely will. Want me to stop throwing over? Stop taking an extra step and stop blaming me. It's that simple.

    Doesn’t picking off drain the pitcher’s energy? Correct me if I’m wrong but this is why I almost never pick off

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    SDS should simply remove the ability to take an extra step in H2H. It adds nothing but frustration to the experience.

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    @mitchhammond24 said in Why not just try to get better?:

    @raesONE said in Why not just try to get better?:

    A while ago I was in a deep BR run, and I played a free swinging guy who fit the profile you just described. I struck his Mondesi out with an offspeed pitch, since he was sitting heat all the way, and of course he reached 1st on a passed ball.

    Then the game within the game started. I was already annoyed that he reached on a K, and knew he was stealing at some point. So he took a step every single time and I threw it over to 1st every single time. Then he messaged me all angry saying "PITCH THE BALL SMH", which I replied to with saying "yeah I will once you stop taking that step". I'm not lying, this sequence continued for about 15 minutes before my pitcher decided to throw it behind the 1B on the 1000th pickoff move, giving him second base.

    Either way my point is this:
    The guy takes an extra step, I react to that by not pitching the ball but attempt a pickoff move. After this keeps going, he gets angry with me, as if I'm the toxic player in this situation? So basically he wants me to just give up second base to him. I get really annoyed with people like this.

    Sure, I won't do this every single time someone takes a lead. But if I notice you're one of those guys, I most definitely will. Want me to stop throwing over? Stop taking an extra step and stop blaming me. It's that simple.

    Doesn’t picking off drain the pitcher’s energy? Correct me if I’m wrong but this is why I almost never pick off

    I think it does yes, but it's very negligible and I'm okay with that opposed to just giving him second base.

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    @mitchhammond24 said in Why not just try to get better?:

    @raesONE said in Why not just try to get better?:

    A while ago I was in a deep BR run, and I played a free swinging guy who fit the profile you just described. I struck his Mondesi out with an offspeed pitch, since he was sitting heat all the way, and of course he reached 1st on a passed ball.

    Then the game within the game started. I was already annoyed that he reached on a K, and knew he was stealing at some point. So he took a step every single time and I threw it over to 1st every single time. Then he messaged me all angry saying "PITCH THE BALL SMH", which I replied to with saying "yeah I will once you stop taking that step". I'm not lying, this sequence continued for about 15 minutes before my pitcher decided to throw it behind the 1B on the 1000th pickoff move, giving him second base.

    Either way my point is this:
    The guy takes an extra step, I react to that by not pitching the ball but attempt a pickoff move. After this keeps going, he gets angry with me, as if I'm the toxic player in this situation? So basically he wants me to just give up second base to him. I get really annoyed with people like this.

    Sure, I won't do this every single time someone takes a lead. But if I notice you're one of those guys, I most definitely will. Want me to stop throwing over? Stop taking an extra step and stop blaming me. It's that simple.

    Doesn’t picking off drain the pitcher’s energy? Correct me if I’m wrong but this is why I almost never pick off

    Yes, but stepping off does not.

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    @Furious_Boogers said in Why not just try to get better?:

    SDS should simply remove the ability to take an extra step in H2H. It adds nothing but frustration to the experience.

    Maybe the size of a baserunnner’s lead could be related to his stealing attribute?

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    @halfbutt said in Why not just try to get better?:

    @Furious_Boogers said in Why not just try to get better?:

    SDS should simply remove the ability to take an extra step in H2H. It adds nothing but frustration to the experience.

    Maybe the size of a baserunnner’s lead could be related to his stealing attribute?

    I like that idea

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    @Furious_Boogers said in Why not just try to get better?:

    SDS should simply remove the ability to take an extra step in H2H. It adds nothing but frustration to the experience.

    No. They need to fix running back on pick offs. Stealing is a part of baseball. Leads are a part of baseball. Having the camera shift during a pitch letting you know it’s a pitch out and hitting one button to safely run back to first base and score your free ball isnt BASEBALL. People aren’t going to stop sending the runner when they have the ability to get him back to first base every single time and only put themselves in a better count at the plate.

    People keep ignoring the fact the devs said they fixed it but did absolutely nothing to fix it. Now nobody talks about it, and it can get looked at again 6 years from now.

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    @ChArTeRBuS said in Why not just try to get better?:

    @Furious_Boogers said in Why not just try to get better?:

    SDS should simply remove the ability to take an extra step in H2H. It adds nothing but frustration to the experience.

    No. They need to fix running back on pick offs. Stealing is a part of baseball. Leads are a part of baseball. Having the camera shift during a pitch letting you know it’s a pitch out and hitting one button to safely run back to first base and score your free ball isnt BASEBALL. People aren’t going to stop sending the runner when they have the ability to get him back to first base every single time and only put themselves in a better count at the plate.

    People keep ignoring the fact the devs said they fixed it but did absolutely nothing to fix it. Now nobody talks about it, and it can get looked at again 6 years from now.

    I believe they said they would fix running back after a pitch-out, which is why runners slip and fall if you try to send them back during a steal attempt.

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    Ya do know you can quick pitch and have a good catcher to combat the extra steps lol like the toxic bunch is the group thinking waaaaa its not fair he gets to take a extra step off first base boohoo

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    @BooDaBangA said in Why not just try to get better?:

    Ya do know you can quick pitch and have a good catcher to combat the extra steps lol like the toxic bunch is the group thinking waaaaa its not fair he gets to take a extra step off first base boohoo

    Yes we know but thanks for the input. Also, we don't cry about the extra step, they cry about the pickoff attempts as a result to those steps. 🤷

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    @raesONE said in Why not just try to get better?:

    @halfbutt said in Why not just try to get better?:

    @Furious_Boogers said in Why not just try to get better?:

    SDS should simply remove the ability to take an extra step in H2H. It adds nothing but frustration to the experience.

    Maybe the size of a baserunnner’s lead could be related to his stealing attribute?

    I like that idea

    yes its a great idea hopefully SDS takes note of this

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