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  • VeganMeatbawlsV Offline
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    Let me settle this once and for all. I am ranked 38th in play now online rated and I play on HOF. I don't let the matchmaking rating go below 1700 and I still play a ton of scrubs. I don't want to but since I'm WAYYY behind in DD and still don't even have sheffield or biggio i refuse to get beat by scrub with higher rated teams and players.

    But once i do get a team equal to others in DD in CS+(98% of those teams are rated 96 or more with the contact and power above 100) I will finally face real competition.

    No doubt DD is where the real competition is at. I've been playing online rated for awhile and even with my matchmaker sitting at 1700+ im still playing scrubs.

    It is difficult to keep track of all the pitchers in play now as you face a lot more variety with weaker hitters I would say that hitting in DD is slightly easier because you face a lot of the same pitchers with all great hitters but pitching is harder because guys can actually hit.

    Also headcoach1181879623569000 you are playing scrubs especially if you are putting it on ANY and you are hitting on all-star most likely so ratings don't really matter. Anybody is Babe Ruth on All-star. I am sure you are a good player but trust me DD competition is not the same...once in a while I face good players on online rated but rarely and even games i've lost were against guys who pitched well but got lucky cause I hung em a fat meatball

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    wrote on last edited by Ewogimia365_PSN
    #54

    As some 1 who's been number 1 in h2h and made it to world series in DD in the past just to prove to myself I could I would have to conceed that on a game to game basis that overall it is harder to consistently win in DD than online rated for multiple reasons. Personally tho I like the normal teams but to each is own when it comes to enjoying the game.

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  • HeadCoach11787H Offline
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    #55

    Just played good DD player humiliated him 5-0 in First inning after he made two outs batting he quit Lmaoo

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    #56

    Good points in this thread tho DD May be more competitive ( I wouldn’t know bc don’t play it) but don’t discredit H2H guys who play with inferior teams to make it challenging

    Won two games down 6-0 tonight against good H2H guys too

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  • HeadCoach11787H Offline
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    @HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

    Just played good DD player humiliated him 5-0 in First inning after he made two outs batting he quit Lmaoo

    The DD guy was swinging at first pitch curves in the dirt too lol. I always test out my opponent first inning with curves or sliders in dirt, if you’re going to get yourself out then I’ll let u

    If he just laid off them I would come in zone. Funny bc the good H2H players don’t swing at them

    Also was ironic the guy used Texas like me, so I offered him a friendly quit b4 first pitch (what fun is it playing Texas vs Texas)

    He declined then after I put up a 5 spot in the top of first he offers me a friendly quit back which I obviously declined, two outs later and he quits lol

    Just makes me think the DD players just recklessly swinging at everything bc playing with hall of famers can prob get away with it in DD cheese fest.

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  • Kovz88_PSNK Offline
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    @HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

    @HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

    Just played good DD player humiliated him 5-0 in First inning after he made two outs batting he quit Lmaoo

    The DD guy was swinging at first pitch curves in the dirt too lol. I always test out my opponent first inning with curves or sliders in dirt, if you’re going to get yourself out then I’ll let u

    If he just laid off them I would come in zone. Funny bc the good H2H players don’t swing at them

    Also was ironic the guy used Texas like me, so I offered him a friendly quit b4 first pitch (what fun is it playing Texas vs Texas)

    He declined then after I put up a 5 spot in the top of first he offers me a friendly quit back which I obviously declined, two outs later and he quits lol

    Just makes me think the DD players just recklessly swinging at everything bc playing with hall of famers can prob get away with it in DD cheese fest.

    Don't let that person represent all DD players, the guys that swing at everything are scrubs. The good players I've gone against won't swing at anything outside the zone no matter how close and anything in the zone is a home run.

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  • JellyRoll198_PSNJ Offline
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    @HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

    @HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

    Just played good DD player humiliated him 5-0 in First inning after he made two outs batting he quit Lmaoo

    The DD guy was swinging at first pitch curves in the dirt too lol. I always test out my opponent first inning with curves or sliders in dirt, if you’re going to get yourself out then I’ll let u

    If he just laid off them I would come in zone. Funny bc the good H2H players don’t swing at them

    Also was ironic the guy used Texas like me, so I offered him a friendly quit b4 first pitch (what fun is it playing Texas vs Texas)

    He declined then after I put up a 5 spot in the top of first he offers me a friendly quit back which I obviously declined, two outs later and he quits lol

    Just makes me think the DD players just recklessly swinging at everything bc playing with hall of famers can prob get away with it in DD cheese fest.

    Also, not to insult the guy you played, but he def isn't a good DD player. He only has 21 hours logged in DD and has over 100 in Play Now. We get it, you want to brag about winning with weak players, but if you want a true test of your skill, you'd play where the main competition is and with even lineups. Heck, there are literal tournaments going on that could answer this debate pretty easily. Also, I'm aware that this thread is just you repeating yourself over and over without addressing anybody's counterpoints, and my response is only feeding the bears, but don't claim that you've played a "good DD player" and "humiliated him" without thinking someone will check up on that.

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  • foge011_PSNF Offline
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    @JellyRoll198 said in Debate:

    @HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

    @HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

    Just played good DD player humiliated him 5-0 in First inning after he made two outs batting he quit Lmaoo

    The DD guy was swinging at first pitch curves in the dirt too lol. I always test out my opponent first inning with curves or sliders in dirt, if you’re going to get yourself out then I’ll let u

    If he just laid off them I would come in zone. Funny bc the good H2H players don’t swing at them

    Also was ironic the guy used Texas like me, so I offered him a friendly quit b4 first pitch (what fun is it playing Texas vs Texas)

    He declined then after I put up a 5 spot in the top of first he offers me a friendly quit back which I obviously declined, two outs later and he quits lol

    Just makes me think the DD players just recklessly swinging at everything bc playing with hall of famers can prob get away with it in DD cheese fest.

    Also, not to insult the guy you played, but he def isn't a good DD player. He only has 21 hours logged in DD and has over 100 in Play Now. We get it, you want to brag about winning with weak players, but if you want a true test of your skill, you'd play where the main competition is and with even lineups. Heck, there are literal tournaments going on that could answer this debate pretty easily. Also, I'm aware that this thread is just you repeating yourself over and over without addressing anybody's counterpoints, and my response is only feeding the bears, but don't claim that you've played a "good DD player" and "humiliated him" without thinking someone will check up on that.

    This whole thing has been some weird flex. Good for you, you win a lot of games with Miami. We couldn't tell, you only said 15 times

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  • HeadCoach11787H Offline
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    I’ve played a few DD players in H2H and they seem to quit quickly. Makes sense tho must be frustrating for them tho going from Stan Musial as your 8th hitter to actually playing with real teams and weak spots in lineup.

    Also in H2H they aren’t able to pitch 5 Cy young starters each game, have to actually use relievers in relief.

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  • Kovz88_PSNK Offline
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    @HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

    I’ve played a few DD players in H2H and they seem to quit quickly. Makes sense tho must be frustrating for them tho going from Stan Musial as your 8th hitter to actually playing with real teams and weak spots in lineup.

    Also in H2H they aren’t able to pitch 5 Cy young starters each game, have to actually use relievers in relief.

    At first it seemed like you wanted actual debate but it definitely just seems like you want to dump on DD. If you enjoy playing with the real teams that's cool, more power to ya but DD is more competetive, its not debatable really.

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  • NCStateHokie_PSNN Offline
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    @HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

    @eatyum said in Debate:

    @HeadCoach11787 said in Debate:

    Which is my point a DD player gets minor league player and 97 overall rank

    So?
    LET me state for the MILLIONTH TIME

    The top players have used bronze cards and still made WS! They have faced absolute god squads that are so far above the Yankees or Dodgers in H2H, and beaten them with bronzes.

    They aren't only using all the high rated cards.

    Bronze cards.. never played DD as I like playing realistic.. what are rankings of bronze cards?

    You play with the Marlins all the time and don't know what Bronze card ratings are????

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  • Kovz88_PSNK Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #64

    The reasons you give for H2H being tough are actually the same reasons DD is more competetive. Holes in the lineup- in DD there are no weak spots in the lineup so you have to be locked in every at bat while pitching. Bad pitchers-in DD if you are seeing a pitcher below 90 you're in an event or facing someone lower leveled so again you can't take off any at bats, you have to be locked in from start to finish. H2H is more strategic you could say but DD is definitely more competetive.

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  • Nanthrax_1_PSNN Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #65

    This OP is a total bot. Just repeats himself and doesn't listen to responses at all. I think he just wanted to flex.
    It's awkward.

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  • allday9128_PSNA Offline
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    @Nanthrax_1 said in Debate:

    This OP is a total bot. Just repeats himself and doesn't listen to responses at all. I think he just wanted to flex.
    It's awkward.

    The flex is all it’s been from the creation of this topic. I’d been reading through and couldn’t believe people were actually thinking he wanted a debate about it but now people are realizing he didn’t lol

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  • Rabid55Wolverine_PSNR Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #67

    This is not the only thread where he has to try to flex and say he plays as texas or miami. I laughed the whole way through this thread about this clown talking about how great he is. Kinda sad really

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  • John3221_PSNJ Offline
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    @Rabid55Wolverine said in Debate:

    This is not the only thread where he has to try to flex and say he plays as texas or miami. I laughed the whole way through this thread about this clown talking about how great he is. Kinda sad really

    I feel ya it wouldn't be actually bad if he didn't choose any difficulty but rather play on HOF or legend.

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  • JellyRoll198_PSNJ Offline
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    Guys I feel like you’re all missing the point. He’s doing all this while using Texas and Miami. Texas and Miami! Good “debate”.

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  • allday9128_PSNA Offline
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    @JellyRoll198 said in Debate:

    Guys I feel like you’re all missing the point. He’s doing all this while using Texas and Miami. Texas and Miami! Good “debate”.

    And dont forget everyone else only picks good teams like the Doyers lmao

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  • baboonishace_PSNB Offline
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    @IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Debate:

    There are currently 97,135 players who have played a game of H2H this year. There are 348,086 players who have played a game of DD this year. That's about 3.6 times as many DDers than H2Hers. Even if talent was equally distributed between both modes (which I doubt is the case) there would be approximately 360 players in DD that are as good or better than the top 100 in H2H. IMO this is inaccurate though because DD is more popular and would attract the best talent due to it's marketability.

    348k people playing at least 1 game of DD just seems kinda sad to me. That just seems pretty low for a worldwide number. How does that compare to other years? Does anyone know? If that's all the player base they have and it's about the only mode they focus on that just seems, I don't know, low I guess lol

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  • HeadCoach11787H Offline
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    The “debate“ is the fact that ur saying DD players are miles better

    So if that is the case if a top DD player played a Top H2H guy and the DD player was the Orioles and the top H2H player was the Yankees ur saying the DD player would win?

    My opinion is that if the skill gap was not huge it would be very difficult for the DD player overcoming the horrible ratings of the Orioles players against a great team like the Yanks

    Trying to get the Yankees overpowered lineup out with pitchers ranked in the 50’s and 60’s

    And then trying to hit with guys ranked in the 60’s instead of 90+ ranked overall players like they are used using in DD

    And yeah I’m proud of my accomplishments when I have 55 overall Taylor Hearn and Stephen Tarpley coming out of the bullpen and I still mow down the yanks and doyers but I see ur point of no point in saying that in what is meant to be a honest debate

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