Thank You Mike Fiers
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You to must not read much about the history of baseball...
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Agreed. I am so sick of Jessica Mendoza and all others that like to act like it was wrong of Mike Fiers to "betray" his former team. Guess what? The Astros aren't his team anymore. If anything, he was defending his new team from being exploited while doing a favor to all other teams out there. Not to mention, putting the Astros in their place. I was never an Astros fan, but as a baseball fan, I really appreciated that roster of talented players. Now, not so much. But I'm glad that I became aware of what happened, and I'm glad everyone else did too.
Do I understand why no Astro players stopped what was going on? Absolutely. If I were in their place, would I have said anything? As much as I hate to admit it, I doubt that I would. But that doesn't make what happened acceptable and EVERYBODY deserves to know about it. Maybe this will help stop similar behavior in the future. As baseball fans, that’s all we can really hope for.
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This aged poorly
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Mike Fiers says you are welcome.
Half the league commends him. Half says he's a turdburgler for not sticking to the code of the clubhouse.
Maybe the LA City Council will vote next week to declare a Mike Fiers day, and erect a statue outside of Dodger Stadium of him holding up an asterisk.
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@hoboadam said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
Mike Fiers says you are welcome.
Half the league commends him. Half says he's a turdburgler for not sticking to the code of the clubhouse.
Maybe the LA City Council will vote next week to declare a Mike Fiers day, and erect a statue outside of Dodger Stadium of him holding up an asterisk.
Nah. Only Dodger legends get statues. But what do you think? Do you commend him? Or would you rather have the cheating continue?
Should the Asterisk's give back the trophy? Or they going to put it on display as if they are real champions? -
If any current player is upset over what Fiers did, it’s because they are cheating themselves.
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@hoboadam said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
Mike Fiers says you are welcome.
Half the league commends him. Half says he's a turdburgler for not sticking to the code of the clubhouse.
Maybe the LA City Council will vote next week to declare a Mike Fiers day, and erect a statue outside of Dodger Stadium of him holding up an asterisk.
im sure you didnt want him to say squat...stay classy astros fans
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@Chuck_Dizzle29 said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
You to must not read much about the history of baseball...
Steroids don’t have anything on this scandal. This scandal is way worse.
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TBH, this issue transcends all clubs. MLB players need a designated third party like an HR department where they can anonymously bring up things.
Fiers should have said something WHILE on the team. Waiting 2 years to open his mouth? That's not cool. Good only knows about all of the things on and off the field that ball players share with each other. He has put himself in a rather awkward situation.
He's not a hero by any means, but also not a villian.
If an HR department existed, Hinch, Fiers and anybody else could have and would have said something.
Then everyone accountable would have paid, and it would have been stopped in it's tracks.
Players/coaches need a place to go and report issues that are potentially detrimental to the game.
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@hoboadam said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
TBH, this issue transcends all clubs. MLB players need a designated third party like an HR department where they can anonymously bring up things.
Fiers should have said something WHILE on the team. Waiting 2 years to open his mouth? That's not cool. Good only knows about all of the things on and off the field that ball players share with each other. He has put himself in a rather awkward situation.
He's not a hero by any means, but also not a villian.
If an HR department existed, Hinch, Fiers and anybody else could have and would have said something.
Then everyone accountable would have paid, and it would have been stopped in it's tracks.
Players/coaches need a place to go and report issues that are potentially detrimental to the game.
I mean he is a villain, he's the cell mate of Felipe Vazquez
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@A_PerfectGame said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
@Chuck_Dizzle29 said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
You to must not read much about the history of baseball...
Steroids don’t have anything on this scandal. This scandal is way worse.
You realize baseball existed before the steroid era, right?
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@hoboadam said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
TBH, this issue transcends all clubs. MLB players need a designated third party like an HR department where they can anonymously bring up things.
Fiers should have said something WHILE on the team. Waiting 2 years to open his mouth? That's not cool. Good only knows about all of the things on and off the field that ball players share with each other. He has put himself in a rather awkward situation.
He's not a hero by any means, but also not a villian.
If an HR department existed, Hinch, Fiers and anybody else could have and would have said something.
Then everyone accountable would have paid, and it would have been stopped in it's tracks.
Players/coaches need a place to go and report issues that are potentially detrimental to the game.
There’s no organization in the world as big as a baseball team that doesn’t have an HR department. The Astros have an HR department. MLB has an HR department. The MLBPA has an HR department as well as a safe channel to raise issues. Heck Fiers released his bombshell with a couple other anonymous players so clearly it can and could have been done anonymously. I understand what you’re saying, but there were a dozen ways that Hinch or anyone else could have anonymously spilled the beans on the situation and [censored] it down as soon as they saw it. If you’ve ever worked for a company bigger than 10 people, you know that there are always channels to report abuse. You can’t give these guys excuses. If they had excuses, they would apologize and explain themselves instead of making jokes about it while accepting rewards.
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@hoboadam said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
Fiers should have said something WHILE on the team. Waiting 2 years to open his mouth? That's not cool. Good only knows about all of the things on and off the field that ball players share with each other. He has put himself in a rather awkward situation.
He's not a hero by any means, but also not a villian.
Good point and well put. He’s a bystander. But there may be any one or more of many reasons he didn’t speak up. I haven’t been following it closely, were any given?
If there’s not a good reason then bystander it is.
A couple of years ago two of our national (Australian) cricket team were caught cheating on a TV broadcast. The captain knew it was going on and said to them he didn’t want anything to do with it; he was found equally guilty by Cricket Australia (governing body) and the media and public. All three were suspended for 18 months.
Not singling out Fiers here, at least he said something to bring it to light. But anybody in those organisations that knew it was going on and said nothing contributed to the problem.
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@hoboadam said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
TBH, this issue transcends all clubs. MLB players need a designated third party like an HR department where they can anonymously bring up things.
Fiers should have said something WHILE on the team. Waiting 2 years to open his mouth? That's not cool. Good only knows about all of the things on and off the field that ball players share with each other. He has put himself in a rather awkward situation.
He's not a hero by any means, but also not a villian.
If an HR department existed, Hinch, Fiers and anybody else could have and would have said something.
Then everyone accountable would have paid, and it would have been stopped in it's tracks.
Players/coaches need a place to go and report issues that are potentially detrimental to the game.
Ummm i thought that was what the Players Association was? Union Reps?
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@hoboadam said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
TBH, this issue transcends all clubs. MLB players need a designated third party like an HR department where they can anonymously bring up things.
Fiers should have said something WHILE on the team. Waiting 2 years to open his mouth? That's not cool. Good only knows about all of the things on and off the field that ball players share with each other. He has put himself in a rather awkward situation.
He's not a hero by any means, but also not a villian.
If an HR department existed, Hinch, Fiers and anybody else could have and would have said something.
Then everyone accountable would have paid, and it would have been stopped in it's tracks.
Players/coaches need a place to go and report issues that are potentially detrimental to the game.
I love how Astros fans talk about Fiers...they get so salty haha HOBO YALL DIDNT WIN A WS IN REALITY LETS GO
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@GrizzBear55 said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
@hoboadam said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
TBH, this issue transcends all clubs. MLB players need a designated third party like an HR department where they can anonymously bring up things.
Fiers should have said something WHILE on the team. Waiting 2 years to open his mouth? That's not cool. Good only knows about all of the things on and off the field that ball players share with each other. He has put himself in a rather awkward situation.
He's not a hero by any means, but also not a villian.
If an HR department existed, Hinch, Fiers and anybody else could have and would have said something.
Then everyone accountable would have paid, and it would have been stopped in it's tracks.
Players/coaches need a place to go and report issues that are potentially detrimental to the game.
Ummm i thought that was what the Players Association was? Union Reps?
There is a PA and Union Reps, but not a true "HR type" group that you can speak to on condition of anonymity.
PA and Union would represent the players interest only, and not that of MLB. Union "fixers" exist like they do in the NFL etc, but if a player has information that needs to be reviewed by MLB, they have nowhere to go.
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@Dclnnn said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
@hoboadam said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
TBH, this issue transcends all clubs. MLB players need a designated third party like an HR department where they can anonymously bring up things.
Fiers should have said something WHILE on the team. Waiting 2 years to open his mouth? That's not cool. Good only knows about all of the things on and off the field that ball players share with each other. He has put himself in a rather awkward situation.
He's not a hero by any means, but also not a villian.
If an HR department existed, Hinch, Fiers and anybody else could have and would have said something.
Then everyone accountable would have paid, and it would have been stopped in it's tracks.
Players/coaches need a place to go and report issues that are potentially detrimental to the game.
I love how Astros fans talk about Fiers...they get so salty haha HOBO YALL DIDNT WIN A WS IN REALITY LETS GO
Led Zeppelin said it best bruh...
Your time is gonna come....
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They probably just added it, this year. Scroll down and behold.
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Every pro sports organization has an HR department...
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@Red_Ted_is_back said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
@hoboadam said in Thank You Mike Fiers:
Fiers should have said something WHILE on the team. Waiting 2 years to open his mouth? That's not cool. Good only knows about all of the things on and off the field that ball players share with each other. He has put himself in a rather awkward situation.
He's not a hero by any means, but also not a villian.
Good point and well put. He’s a bystander. But there may be any one or more of many reasons he didn’t speak up. I haven’t been following it closely, were any given?
If there’s not a good reason then bystander it is.
A couple of years ago two of our national (Australian) cricket team were caught cheating on a TV broadcast. The captain knew it was going on and said to them he didn’t want anything to do with it; he was found equally guilty by Cricket Australia (governing body) and the media and public. All three were suspended for 18 months.
Not singling out Fiers here, at least he said something to bring it to light. But anybody in those organisations that knew it was going on and said nothing contributed to the problem.
Hinch knew it was wrong, didn't do enough to stop it. There's a cultural issue there between Spanish players and Hinch that also was a problem in Arizona. That's not in news outlets etc, but it was a rift that led to him leaving ARI.
But everyone involved could have said something, and didn't. Everyone not involved could have done the same thing.
