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@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:

I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.

I don't think that's true at all, just because it was good timing on the hitter side doesn't mean that's where the ball ends up being. It was still to far out for that to be true.

Doesn't the hitting feedback register the location of where contact is made? Since the timing was good, that spot is accurate to where the pitch would end up using that logic.

No, that's not how it works, just because it's a good time to hit the ball, doesn't mean that is the balls final destination. The ball doesn't magically stop moving if the hitter doesn't hit it there.

I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I hear what you're saying, and like I argued before I would agree if the timing was early or very early. But since that wasn't the case here, I do think that the spot that the feedback shows was in fact the location where the pitch would've ended up being if the batter had not swung.

But why? what gives you this assumption? Because using the hitters timing isn't proof, unless you are suggesting the hitters good time to swing is when the ball was in the glove, or that the ball magically stops moving on a slurve before it gets in the glove.

Besides, all of this is moot because we know where the ball would have ended up. https://twitter.com/UHeynaBoutIt/status/1523725235706421250?s=20&t=qwWX3od9aqqy9oadx6-SDQ

Which is outside the par, but the picture makes it look worse then it is, as my first comment said

I have no issue with the result of the batter, you can actually hit that pitch for a homer if it DID end up where he spotted it. The argument was that the pitch had a perfect release and it ended up outside the PAR. That shouldn't happen.

@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:

I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.

I don't think that's true at all, just because it was good timing on the hitter side doesn't mean that's where the ball ends up being. It was still to far out for that to be true.

Doesn't the hitting feedback register the location of where contact is made? Since the timing was good, that spot is accurate to where the pitch would end up using that logic.

No, that's not how it works, just because it's a good time to hit the ball, doesn't mean that is the balls final destination. The ball doesn't magically stop moving if the hitter doesn't hit it there.

I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I hear what you're saying, and like I argued before I would agree if the timing was early or very early. But since that wasn't the case here, I do think that the spot that the feedback shows was in fact the location where the pitch would've ended up being if the batter had not swung.

@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:

I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.

I don't think that's true at all, just because it was good timing on the hitter side doesn't mean that's where the ball ends up being. It was still to far out for that to be true.

Doesn't the hitting feedback register the location of where contact is made? Since the timing was good, that spot is accurate to where the pitch would end up using that logic.

@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:

Lol weird two posts down a thread saying pitching too easy

With all due respect to that poster, I read through that post thinking he is probably not a very good hitter since he is voicing his frustration about not getting any pitches down the middle - so if you read between the lines that means that's what he was looking for and didn't get it. The pitch I pointed out on Twitter was also not down the middle, but will be crushed by every decent player who isn't just looking for pitches down the middle.

I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.

@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@matt_42187_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@mrwonderful95 said in Well whaddya know:

@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:

As others have noted isn’t the pitch suppose to travel through the zone and if batter didn’t swing pitch would land where intended?

Good point. Didn’t think of it that way. The batter coulda been so far ahead of the ball it was a foul or a swig and miss. Did the person who posted this have evidence it was a bomb or a hit?

Maybe a double in bottom of the first with Ramirez?

https://mlb22.theshow.com/games/100806895?username=fjaycruzz07

it was a homer...

Oh now I see thanks. no way I’m throwing a slider there to a lefty that pitch is going to his ankles not belt

That's a great pitch if the ball actually goes there.

@chrono_omega_psn said in Well whaddya know:

@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:

https://twitter.com/UHeynaBoutIt/status/1523707950229032965?t=zfOsuKlAugcz3L2zM5uIgA&s=19

Remember when I said pitching is broken af, less than a week after release of the game? Yeah I remember. Thankfully people are catching on.

I absolutely agree Raes, I was just gonna make a post about this too lol. The PAR itself is just a flat out lie. It either is down the middle or just missing outside the zone no in between for me.

Yeah it's total bs. Some guys on Twitter are mentioning the 0.02 early on the release, but if THAT is what dictates this location which is essentially giving up a moonshot each and every time, that's a huge problem. Not to mention they said that 0.00 to 0.03 is considered a perfect. That ball didn't touch any part of the PAR.

@doobiebross66-72 said in Well whaddya know:

Also saw this earlier, not surprised as I knew I had pitches missing the PAR on perfect input

They need to shrink the PAR sizes, on HOF it’s so [censored] hard to hit a corner with almost any pitch

What also annoys me, I’m desperate for a strike, I place a pitch towards the corner of the plate with the PAR having the SMALLEST area grazing the corner/outside the zone. Time and time again with perfect release, the pitch misses for a ball. So frustrating

They completely [censored] PPP this year. People complained about how OP it was last year (rightfully so to a degree) and in typical SDS fashion, they over compensated and now PPP is as random as ever.

Yeah I completely agree. A slight nerf would've been fine but as usual they weren't able to find balance.

https://twitter.com/UHeynaBoutIt/status/1523707950229032965?t=zfOsuKlAugcz3L2zM5uIgA&s=19

Remember when I said pitching is broken af, less than a week after release of the game? Yeah I remember. Thankfully people are catching on.

@dbub_psn said in Question about new Chase pack player. Maybe SDS can answer:

@mrxbaseballx2k22_psn said in Question about new Chase pack player. Maybe SDS can answer:

With the new Chase pack player being released tomorrow does that after tomorrow we can no longer get a Chase pack featuring Pujols?

Or are they just adding a new player to the mix?

Good question.

And I have another one. If I earn my packs today, but stash them til tomorrow, would they have a shot at Pujols or the new player?

Who am I kidding? No chance I see either of them.

Not 100% sure, but an educated guess based on my BR experiences. If you get the pack today and save it for tomorrow, or 6 months for that matter, you'll be able to get the player that was in the pack at the moment you acquired the pack. So waiting in this instance will give you a chance at Pujols and not the new card.
Not sure if the new pack will still give a chance at Pujols, I'd say no but wtf do I know. It would be nice if SDS communicated on this, but who am I kidding.

Yeah they both suck, terrible swings

@worldrevolver_xbl said in New day, new complaint:

I noticed since patch 4 or 5 the AI will start their dive even earlier making it look more ridiculous than before, the player dives and then as his 20’ dive slows down the ball rolls into his glove. It's preposterous. so looks like the devs are really into this nonsense.

I know right they just fall and slide perfectly until the ball gets there.

@eatyum_psn said in New day, new complaint:

@raesone_psn said in New day, new complaint:

@eatyum_psn said in New day, new complaint:

So my thought, would it be a good idea to display or advertise the % chances? Sort of like how they show pp averages? Bronze fielders have a 40% chance to make a diving play etc?

I think they should just tone it down altogether. Both the instances where they field it cleanly for an out or even a DP, or where they prevent it from going to the OF and potentially save a run. Both animations are almost standard whenever you hit a line drive that's not going straight to the glove.

Sure, but what does toning down mean? Because obviously the percentage chances already exist, so what are they? What percentage would it be after toning down?

Impossible to say if we don't have the actual numbers. Which we never will.

@eatyum_psn said in New day, new complaint:

So my thought, would it be a good idea to display or advertise the % chances? Sort of like how they show pp averages? Bronze fielders have a 40% chance to make a diving play etc?

I think they should just tone it down altogether. Both the instances where they field it cleanly for an out or even a DP, or where they prevent it from going to the OF and potentially save a run. Both animations are almost standard whenever you hit a line drive that's not going straight to the glove.

@genopolanco_psn said in New day, new complaint:

@raesone_psn said in New day, new complaint:

@genopolanco_psn said in New day, new complaint:

@raesone_psn said in New day, new complaint:

@genopolanco_psn said in New day, new complaint:

Defense only seems insane because of the dives, otherwise it seems normal. I will say defense actually seems to matter more at 1B this year. I’ve noticed a ton of plays where Thomas doesn’t make a play I know a Diamond fielder would/has consistently. Still not a huge risk but it can be the difference between a hit or an out.

For me it's all the same, in BR I draft mainly offense which usually results in very average defense and they make all the plays almost all the time.

They make routine plays and will keep balls in the infield most of the time but have you played with a Diamond 1B a decent amount?

No, but what does it matter? An out is an out regardless of defensive rating or defensive shield.

A ball knocked down instead of fielding it cleanly can be the difference of turning 2 or not, plus the range chasing foul pop ups can be the difference of a foul or out.

I don't think you understand, I'm saying that bronze or even common fielders make all the plays all the same when it comes to the auto dives.

@genopolanco_psn said in New day, new complaint:

@raesone_psn said in New day, new complaint:

@genopolanco_psn said in New day, new complaint:

Defense only seems insane because of the dives, otherwise it seems normal. I will say defense actually seems to matter more at 1B this year. I’ve noticed a ton of plays where Thomas doesn’t make a play I know a Diamond fielder would/has consistently. Still not a huge risk but it can be the difference between a hit or an out.

For me it's all the same, in BR I draft mainly offense which usually results in very average defense and they make all the plays almost all the time.

They make routine plays and will keep balls in the infield most of the time but have you played with a Diamond 1B a decent amount?

No, but what does it matter? An out is an out regardless of defensive rating or defensive shield.

@genopolanco_psn said in New day, new complaint:

Defense only seems insane because of the dives, otherwise it seems normal. I will say defense actually seems to matter more at 1B this year. I’ve noticed a ton of plays where Thomas doesn’t make a play I know a Diamond fielder would/has consistently. Still not a huge risk but it can be the difference between a hit or an out.

For me it's all the same, in BR I draft mainly offense which usually results in very average defense and they make all the plays almost all the time.

@tmichae10_psn said in New day, new complaint:

@raesone_psn said in New day, new complaint:

The infield diving plays are ridiculously OP. Fielding rating doesn't matter one bit, everybody is a Platinum Glover out there. Let's see who disagrees and thinks this is totally realistic and "JuSt BaSeBalL bRo".

Maybe this is the trade off from the 2B grounder freeze offs from last year?!?!

That still happens

@kovz88_psn said in New day, new complaint:

If we're talking about the CPU yah I think they broke the sliders turning them up this year. For online I think it just has to be determined by whether the player controlling them got there then the RNG dice roll to see if the ball bounces off. Wouldn't be upset if they turned up the frequency the ball bounces off lower level defenders tho.

No I was actually talking about online gameplay. Offline is whatever, I'm used to the fielders being superman. But online it's quite ridiculous and it doesn't just happen against me, my own fielders make the auto dives all the same and save so many base hits or more. It's stupidly overpowered and the frequency of these happening is way too high.

@raesone_psn said in New day, new complaint:

The infield diving plays are ridiculously OP. Fielding rating doesn't matter one bit, everybody is a Platinum Glover out there. Let's see who disagrees and thinks this is totally realistic and "JuSt BaSeBalL bRo".

I'd like to add that it's okay for them to happen with diamond or sometimes even gold fielders, but the frequency HAS to be tuned down.