Well whaddya know
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@mrwonderful95 said in Well whaddya know:
@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
As others have noted isn’t the pitch suppose to travel through the zone and if batter didn’t swing pitch would land where intended?
Good point. Didn’t think of it that way. The batter coulda been so far ahead of the ball it was a foul or a swig and miss. Did the person who posted this have evidence it was a bomb or a hit?
Maybe a double in bottom of the first with Ramirez?
https://mlb22.theshow.com/games/100806895?username=fjaycruzz07
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@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@mrwonderful95 said in Well whaddya know:
@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
As others have noted isn’t the pitch suppose to travel through the zone and if batter didn’t swing pitch would land where intended?
Good point. Didn’t think of it that way. The batter coulda been so far ahead of the ball it was a foul or a swig and miss. Did the person who posted this have evidence it was a bomb or a hit?
Maybe a double in bottom of the first with Ramirez?
https://mlb22.theshow.com/games/100806895?username=fjaycruzz07
it was a homer...
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@matt_42187_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@mrwonderful95 said in Well whaddya know:
@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
As others have noted isn’t the pitch suppose to travel through the zone and if batter didn’t swing pitch would land where intended?
Good point. Didn’t think of it that way. The batter coulda been so far ahead of the ball it was a foul or a swig and miss. Did the person who posted this have evidence it was a bomb or a hit?
Maybe a double in bottom of the first with Ramirez?
https://mlb22.theshow.com/games/100806895?username=fjaycruzz07
it was a homer...
Oh now I see thanks. no way I’m throwing a slider there to a lefty that pitch is going to his ankles not belt
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@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@matt_42187_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@mrwonderful95 said in Well whaddya know:
@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
As others have noted isn’t the pitch suppose to travel through the zone and if batter didn’t swing pitch would land where intended?
Good point. Didn’t think of it that way. The batter coulda been so far ahead of the ball it was a foul or a swig and miss. Did the person who posted this have evidence it was a bomb or a hit?
Maybe a double in bottom of the first with Ramirez?
https://mlb22.theshow.com/games/100806895?username=fjaycruzz07
it was a homer...
Oh now I see thanks. no way I’m throwing a slider there to a lefty that pitch is going to his ankles not belt
That's a great pitch if the ball actually goes there.
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After thinking about this I don’t think I have a problem with it. The ball has to travel through the strike zone to get to that point and maybe the hitter had a PP swing while it was traveling through. Also, you have to take into account the RNG element as well as the “stats” of the pitcher and hitter.
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@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@matt_42187_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@mrwonderful95 said in Well whaddya know:
@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
As others have noted isn’t the pitch suppose to travel through the zone and if batter didn’t swing pitch would land where intended?
Good point. Didn’t think of it that way. The batter coulda been so far ahead of the ball it was a foul or a swig and miss. Did the person who posted this have evidence it was a bomb or a hit?
Maybe a double in bottom of the first with Ramirez?
https://mlb22.theshow.com/games/100806895?username=fjaycruzz07
it was a homer...
Oh now I see thanks. no way I’m throwing a slider there to a lefty that pitch is going to his ankles not belt
I agree. It was a slurve, but still. I saw the guy was early on a cutter. Guess he thought the dude would still be looking out for fastball. No way I'm throwing a slurve belt high to begin with.
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I bet over half of my homers given up are from "floating" off speed pitches that aren't even close to where they should have gone.
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I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.
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Lol weird two posts down a thread saying pitching too easy
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@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
Lol weird two posts down a thread saying pitching too easy
With all due respect to that poster, I read through that post thinking he is probably not a very good hitter since he is voicing his frustration about not getting any pitches down the middle - so if you read between the lines that means that's what he was looking for and didn't get it. The pitch I pointed out on Twitter was also not down the middle, but will be crushed by every decent player who isn't just looking for pitches down the middle.
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@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.
I don't think that's true at all, just because it was good timing on the hitter side doesn't mean that's where the ball ends up being. It was still to far out for that to be true.
We can even tell that by a picture in the twitter thread, the ball isn't yet to where it will land.
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@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.
I don't think that's true at all, just because it was good timing on the hitter side doesn't mean that's where the ball ends up being. It was still to far out for that to be true.
Doesn't the hitting feedback register the location of where contact is made? Since the timing was good, that spot is accurate to where the pitch would end up using that logic.
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@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.
I don't think that's true at all, just because it was good timing on the hitter side doesn't mean that's where the ball ends up being. It was still to far out for that to be true.
Doesn't the hitting feedback register the location of where contact is made? Since the timing was good, that spot is accurate to where the pitch would end up using that logic.
No, that's not how it works, just because it's a good time to hit the ball, doesn't mean that is the balls final destination. The ball doesn't magically stop moving if the hitter doesn't hit it there.
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@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.
I don't think that's true at all, just because it was good timing on the hitter side doesn't mean that's where the ball ends up being. It was still to far out for that to be true.
Doesn't the hitting feedback register the location of where contact is made? Since the timing was good, that spot is accurate to where the pitch would end up using that logic.
No, that's not how it works, just because it's a good time to hit the ball, doesn't mean that is the balls final destination. The ball doesn't magically stop moving if the hitter doesn't hit it there.
I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I hear what you're saying, and like I argued before I would agree if the timing was early or very early. But since that wasn't the case here, I do think that the spot that the feedback shows was in fact the location where the pitch would've ended up being if the batter had not swung.
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@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.
I don't think that's true at all, just because it was good timing on the hitter side doesn't mean that's where the ball ends up being. It was still to far out for that to be true.
Doesn't the hitting feedback register the location of where contact is made? Since the timing was good, that spot is accurate to where the pitch would end up using that logic.
No, that's not how it works, just because it's a good time to hit the ball, doesn't mean that is the balls final destination. The ball doesn't magically stop moving if the hitter doesn't hit it there.
I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I hear what you're saying, and like I argued before I would agree if the timing was early or very early. But since that wasn't the case here, I do think that the spot that the feedback shows was in fact the location where the pitch would've ended up being if the batter had not swung.
But why? what gives you this assumption? Because using the hitters timing isn't proof, unless you are suggesting the hitters good time to swing is when the ball was in the glove, or that the ball magically stops moving on a slurve before it gets in the glove.
Besides, all of this is moot because we know where the ball would have ended up. https://twitter.com/UHeynaBoutIt/status/1523725235706421250?s=20&t=qwWX3od9aqqy9oadx6-SDQ
Which is outside the par, but the picture makes it look worse then it is, as my first comment said
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@hustlinowl_psn said in Well whaddya know:
Lol weird two posts down a thread saying pitching too easy
Pitching is fine if the perfect releases go in the PAR.
That being said, being a slurve from a pitcher with very good movement on his slurve if he would have taken that pitch I'm not sure it wouldn't have reached the left side of that PAR.
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@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.
I don't think that's true at all, just because it was good timing on the hitter side doesn't mean that's where the ball ends up being. It was still to far out for that to be true.
Doesn't the hitting feedback register the location of where contact is made? Since the timing was good, that spot is accurate to where the pitch would end up using that logic.
No, that's not how it works, just because it's a good time to hit the ball, doesn't mean that is the balls final destination. The ball doesn't magically stop moving if the hitter doesn't hit it there.
I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I hear what you're saying, and like I argued before I would agree if the timing was early or very early. But since that wasn't the case here, I do think that the spot that the feedback shows was in fact the location where the pitch would've ended up being if the batter had not swung.
But why? what gives you this assumption? Because using the hitters timing isn't proof, unless you are suggesting the hitters good time to swing is when the ball was in the glove, or that the ball magically stops moving on a slurve before it gets in the glove.
Besides, all of this is moot because we know where the ball would have ended up. https://twitter.com/UHeynaBoutIt/status/1523725235706421250?s=20&t=qwWX3od9aqqy9oadx6-SDQ
Which is outside the par, but the picture makes it look worse then it is, as my first comment said
I have no issue with the result of the batter, you can actually hit that pitch for a homer if it DID end up where he spotted it. The argument was that the pitch had a perfect release and it ended up outside the PAR. That shouldn't happen.
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@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.
I don't think that's true at all, just because it was good timing on the hitter side doesn't mean that's where the ball ends up being. It was still to far out for that to be true.
Doesn't the hitting feedback register the location of where contact is made? Since the timing was good, that spot is accurate to where the pitch would end up using that logic.
No, that's not how it works, just because it's a good time to hit the ball, doesn't mean that is the balls final destination. The ball doesn't magically stop moving if the hitter doesn't hit it there.
I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I hear what you're saying, and like I argued before I would agree if the timing was early or very early. But since that wasn't the case here, I do think that the spot that the feedback shows was in fact the location where the pitch would've ended up being if the batter had not swung.
But why? what gives you this assumption? Because using the hitters timing isn't proof, unless you are suggesting the hitters good time to swing is when the ball was in the glove, or that the ball magically stops moving on a slurve before it gets in the glove.
Besides, all of this is moot because we know where the ball would have ended up. https://twitter.com/UHeynaBoutIt/status/1523725235706421250?s=20&t=qwWX3od9aqqy9oadx6-SDQ
Which is outside the par, but the picture makes it look worse then it is, as my first comment said
I have no issue with the result of the batter, you can actually hit that pitch for a homer if it DID end up where he spotted it. The argument was that the pitch had a perfect release and it ended up outside the PAR. That shouldn't happen.
I know, I wasn't referring to the batter, I was referring to the picture of the batter swinging vs where the pitch wouldve ended up.
The picture of the batter swinging makes it look way worse then it was. In reality the ball would have hit on the corner, which is outside the par, which shouldn't happen obv, but it also wasn't some gravity middle middle pitch
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@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@eatyum_psn said in Well whaddya know:
@raesone_psn said in Well whaddya know:
I would be open to the argument that the pitch went through the zone if the timing on it was very early or even early. But it literally says good timing, and it's closer to the green than the yellow (hence it says good and not just early). That means that the pitch wasn't caught in the flight, the pitch was hit at the location where it ended up being.
I don't think that's true at all, just because it was good timing on the hitter side doesn't mean that's where the ball ends up being. It was still to far out for that to be true.
Doesn't the hitting feedback register the location of where contact is made? Since the timing was good, that spot is accurate to where the pitch would end up using that logic.
This is honestly what I've always wondered. Is the ball location in the PCI feedback giving the results of where contact is made, or is it showing where the ball would've crossed the plate and been caught at?
Because I think if it's showing where the ball would've crossed the plate and been caught it would explain alot of the off ball pci solid contact.
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As others have stated, the image doesn’t really hold up. Ball has to travel still.
