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@virusts_PSN said:

Did it change for Ohtani when he went up to a 95 for the odds?

I don't that is the cause because Judge and Alvarez are both also at .006% odds.

The odds are going to change throughout the year for some of these.

If they have a roster update and add 6 new diamonds and only downgrade 3 diamonds to gold then some odds will be changed among the individual diamonds to maintain that 2% chance of a getting a diamond.

Nobody pays that close of attention to what cards get added or removed from standard packs that could affect odds of individual cards.

Still not a fan of the move though.

@KenKen71412_MLBTS said:

Regulatory Scrutiny: In the US, the FTC monitors these monetization models; companies that use deceptive practices or fail to disclose the real odds of chance-based items risk severe penalties.

Looks like I'll be updating my complaint from last week.

Does anyone have or can tell me how to get a screenshot of the original odds?

I posted this Graphic way back early in the year when there were a limited number of diamonds. It specifically shows Ohtani at .008

Judge was also at .008 with Ortiz and Machado at .004 each to reach that .016% rate

@SpawnOfDitka_XBL said:

I told you all they were manipulating odds 3 months ago. You all smack talked me. Called me a tin foil hat wearer. I could tell by my own pack openings they manipulated the s h I t out of them. Not hard to figure out and see.

The difference is that this is verifiable from their own site and documentation.

Your claims, whether they were right or wrong, were anecdotal in nature. Those of us who have been around years have seen such an extreme amount of anecdotal claims stated as facts that we are leery and mistrusting of almost all of them.

If I remember that discussion my argument against the manipulation was the published odds on their website which specifically for these two players had not changed. I think I even did a breakdown with an infographic of the odds.

This was the same exact website that I used to verify that the original poster's claim was true.

@x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN said:

@mike_ph_PSN said:

@x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN Because you can literally look up the odds instead of trying to call me a liar.

Where in my post did I call you a liar?

I just asked if the info you read, and subsequently reposted, was from a reputable source or from one of the "tin hat" conspiracy theorists that post random words because they havent been able to pull Judge or Ohtani.

Did you miss my post where I said that I verified the numbers by looking up the odds on SDS's own website?

Cheating because the game is bad is a rationalization and not a justification.

Just like those who used PCI shrinkage and glitchy pitchers as rationalizations for abusing the WBC exploit.

Cheaters are going to cheat. They always try and convince others that their actions are somehow justified. It rarely, if ever, is.

@NotesOfJohn_PSN said:

If true, this should tell even the most ardent SDS fans of both of their priorities and the sharp diminution of quality.

I looked up their numbers on the SDS site where they list the odds for all packs.

In a standard Show pack it went from .008% to . 006%, which is indeed a jump from 1 in 12,500 to 1 in 16,666.7

The only justification, if there even is one, would be if they bettered the odds in other common packs like Ballin is a Habit.

I double checked and the odds have decreased. Seems to me that they want to keep them rare and expensive

@im_aPugtato_PSN said:

@Dolenz_PSN said:

Why has Ted Simmons been free falling today? Is it the vault pack? (apparently a new Prime card dropped)

I put in a bid for 230K not thinking it would go but not only did I get him back he has continued to freefall to 195K Buy Now and 173 Sell Now.

So final tally is that I sold him for 419K. Take out the 10% tax and that was 377K and bought him back for 230K so a 147K profit ain't too bad. I am not going to kick myself over the extra 40 or 50K I could have made by waiting a few more hours.

I have a buy order in for Berkman and Mcgee for the same amount. If I can get them for that then I should have plenty left over for Schoendienst, Suppan, Burleson and Condon

Did you get all your guys back?

Just Simmons so far.

Still waiting for Berkman and McGee to fall more if they are.

@danh35_MLBTS

@DrBear100_PSN

Thanks for the info. I didn't see who the headliner was for today. Another prime is undoubtedly the reason.

Simmons is sub 200 now. Are the scouting report Vault Packs helping that much?

Why has Ted Simmons been free falling today? Is it the vault pack? (apparently a new Prime card dropped)

I put in a bid for 230K not thinking it would go but not only did I get him back he has continued to freefall to 195K Buy Now and 173 Sell Now.

So final tally is that I sold him for 419K. Take out the 10% tax and that was 377K and bought him back for 230K so a 147K profit ain't too bad. I am not going to kick myself over the extra 40 or 50K I could have made by waiting a few more hours.

I have a buy order in for Berkman and Mcgee for the same amount. If I can get them for that then I should have plenty left over for Schoendienst, Suppan, Burleson and Condon

Live Series Wheeler or Live Series Soto

My luck will spin to the other side eventually right?

Yep, you see that right, another Cardinal as a Rare round. Adding to the 1 million plus total I already need just to complete the Cardinals, minus Pujols

@KenKen71412_MLBTS said:

@Dolenz_PSN said:

@KenKen71412_MLBTS said:

And I've got 1.6 million stubs but refuse to spend over 300k on cards I'll never use.

I have just over 1 million and I don't want to spend that much on players I would use for the rest of the year orobably

Exactly, and you're a Cardinals fan. I'm a Mets fan and I didn't want to spend the 150k on either Lindor or Soto.

Speaking of Cardinals when is the last time Vince Coleman has been in the game? One of my favorite non Mets or A's as a kid.

I don't think he was ever in the game. I was also a big Vince Coleman fan but honestly he feels redundant. I am always going to opt for Brock in LF and McGee in CF both of who have 99 speed and 99 steal, and probably Musial, Beltran, or Berkman in RF

I'm leery that to get more Cardinals since we would probably lose some of the existing ones. That would be tough.

@KenKen71412_MLBTS said:

And I've got 1.6 million stubs but refuse to spend over 300k on cards I'll never use.

I have just over 1 million and I don't want to spend that much on players I would use for the rest of the year probably

I realize that I took a gamble when I sold my Simmons and Berkman cards in a calculated guess that they would come down in price and allow me buy them back cheaper in order to afford McGee and Schoendienst

There are currently only 4 people selling Ted Simmons

Berkman has more sellers (13) but look at those top prices.

McGee has more sellers but his price has gone up for the last three days and the Buy Now price yesterday was 374K

Over 1.3 million stubs for three Cardinal Players that are not even currently in the meta. You can add in just over another 100 for Suppan and Schoendienst.

That doesn't even count the 1 Million I would probably need to get Ohtani and the NL collection done for Pujols.

Unless you have a specialized game I have always been if the opinion that you should not cater too much to the top 10% or the bottom 10% of players and instead focus on the middle 80% to keep the most fans engaged.

@abulargent_MLBTS

That one was a big one for me too. I will keep repeating myself that by not acting against those who exploited the glitch the only players who were punished were those who did not take part in the exploit. It also sends the message that everyone should exploit the next glitch because SDS won't act on it.

Number 2 for me is the sheer number of pack cards I have had to purchase just to try and keep up with my Cardinals theme team. I would still like to pick up 6 more cards but even with a million stubs I can't afford them all (and I am not even including Pujols). That tells me that as a casual player who does not devote all my gaming time to The Show that they are pushing me away. As long as everyone values switch hitters then they are always going to make Berkman, Simmons, McGee hard to get

I'm with the others the vast majority of people are not playing and winning on Goat.

But goat isn't needed to win the card. It just gives you the best chance. I could play on Veteran and get lucky and win it.

Secondly, I would not call 30k for a 92 Ozzie Smith as cheap.