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@lucas8181 said in Why lie SDS?:

Fielding is absolutely worse post patch. I won three games last night because of fielding errors, I felt bad for my opponent. It is what it is. Stop buying packs, stop giving them money, and maybe it will act as a motivation for them to fix the game.

But, we all know you won't. You will keep spending money on packs, and nothing will change. So, blame the community

Meanwhile, in showdown yordon Alvarez is climbing the 25 ft wall in Minute Maid to rob me of a homerun. If only my fielders played half as well as the showdown AI supposedly on veteran.
I’m with you on the no packs/money anymore. Even though I’m already fairly deep into since I have mantle.

@maskedgrappler said in Why lie SDS?:

But to build a whole new game from scratch would costs lot of money, They clearly dont feel they would get enough sales to justify it.

SDS has the advantage of 15 years of reiteration, for better or worse.

Back to this topic, I feel like gaming companies are sleeping on a big opportunity here. Video games aren’t going anywhere for the foreseeable future, and SDS is failing imo at putting together a decently realistic game the last few years. Similar to madden and EA, they have lost touch with building a game first and content second. I get it, the content brings in all the money, but the gameplay has been lacking for years now.

@SMASHED_THAT said in Why lie SDS?:

@maskedgrappler said in Why lie SDS?:

The fielding was bad the first month or so last year too, or does everyone forget outfielders running through ground balls causing in the park Homer's?

I never gave up an inside the parker last year this year im up to 5 already in online gameplay because of balls ricocheting off the wall my guy will be where the balls supposed to go after hitting the wall and he wont react causing another outfielder to come over and pick the ball up every single time never had this problem once last year and i played over 700 ranked games

I was literally thinking the same the other day. I don’t think before this year I’ve ever given up on inside the Parker. This year I’ve given up a few because my OF just stands next to the ball and refused to pick it up.

@VEGAS__T said in Why lie SDS?:

@maskedgrappler said in Why lie SDS?:

@VEGAS__T said in Why lie SDS?:

Do they release a beta version that they allow the public to test before they release the game? I know fifa puts out a beta test version that members of the community can play which allows them to fix the bugs prior to release. I’ve never seen MLB The Show Beta version or any of my friends playing one...

They do a private beta usually in December or January. Nothing public as far as I know, but if you played last year's game it's easy to get into.

Must be super private because I’ve played the show every year for as long as I can remember. I play everyday, I’m linked to their twitch stream, I post here often but I’ve never been invited to beta test. I use to love doing that on fifa and giving them tons of feedback.

They let everyone play the beta this year I think. They first said it was invite only, but I’m pretty sure everyone ended up being invited

@maskedgrappler said in Why lie SDS?:

The reason nobody else makes baseball games is they dont see enough return on investment. EA as much as said that's why they dont.

EA can stay far away. I’ve hated their products for years now. I don’t get the profit part though. SDS recreates mostly the same cards an resells them every year. A virtual card created from code has to be very profitable

@Oleoay said in Why lie SDS?:

It is completely impossible for any game company to play test as much as hundreds of thousands of users can (unless that game company had hired hundreds of thousands of play testers who didn't do artwork, didn't do programming, all they did was play out every single scenario and its permutations over and over again).

As far as earlier versions playing better now, of course they did, because they had the full cycle of patches.

We're also in an environment where, due to social distancing, it is much harder to coordinate activities. Sure, some people work fully remote and some work part of the time, but it's still harder to accomplish some things in a teleconference than it is in person.

Of course, if you think you can do better, you're free to code up your own baseball game

I don’t think it’s that easy. There has to be a reason no one else makes mlb games like the show. I get that they are “social distancing”, but don’t say you fixed something that you didn’t. Be transparent with the people spending their hard earned money instead of misleading everyone patch after patch.

@maskedgrappler said in fielding is still wild:

There's still issues to be sure, but you guys are acting like outfielders are missing routine fly balls every single inning.

I’ve had one miss a routine fly ball my last 3 or 4 games now. That shouldn’t happen ever. I get it with trash fielders, but 99 mantle missed a routine play for me last night. Trout took one to the face the game before. It’s atrocious

@ChicagoCableGod said in Why lie SDS?:

How long has DD been incorporated into MLB the show?
How long has MLB the show been around?
Yet we’re still having reoccurring issues?
So until a new Baseball game is made to compete with MLB the show we will all have to just embrace this [censored] of a gameplay.

I honestly prefer 19 now. At least fielding and pitching felt playable. The lineouts sucked, but honestly I’m getting just as many now ever since they nerfed hitting after the first weekend. This is the worst fielding has ever been to my memory.

@raesONE said in Why lie SDS?:

If anything, I wouldn't necessarily call it a lie. I would call it incompetence, because I'm pretty sure the developers think they did actually fix the issues.

I’m usually not this harsh, but whoever is testing and making these patches shouldn’t have that job. This isn’t the first patch that claimed things are fixed and they aren’t. To me, it seems like a lie.

Fielding is worse post patch. New problems have popped up for me. Guys over running balls now. This game will be dead in a couple months if they don’t fix this stuff.

Once again, my 99 mantle refuses to lock onto a ball. Next guy goes yard. Facing kluber every game, submarine cap closer that throw 100mph, and this fielding I’m starting to get fed up with this game. I feel like the patch made fielding worse possibly.

@bradphil87 said in World Series nameplates idea:

You know how you can get like the 5x battle royal 12-0 nameplates and such by exchanging them? I would like it if you could do the same with WS nameplates, I think it’d be a cool way to show if you made WS 5 times, 10 times, etc. I’m hoping they could possibly add this later

I thought the same when I saw the new BR plates. I don’t really enjoy BR, but typically make WS 5-10 times every year. Would be nice for that to be added. The top 50 banners are the “special” banners for ranked seasons, but making top 50 is tough. I’ve came close a few times, but never got in the 50.

@Nanthrax_1 said in Patch 1.08:

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@Nanthrax_1 said in Patch 1.08:

@T-Rox_09 said in Patch 1.08:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Patch 1.08:

@KOTANK1334 said in Patch 1.08:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Patch 1.08:

@KOTANK1334 said in Patch 1.08:

Game is horrible right now. But I dont think it's getting any better either.

Is it horrible? So horrible you're still playing it?

Yes, because this is the only game I play and I am a huge baseball fan. I'm open to your suggestions......

Go ahead and tell me how the game is just absolutely perfect.

It's not, but it's certainly not "horrible". It's not even "bad"... It's actually quite "good". It's got a few flaws but I'd even go as far to say it's "great"... Because it's baseball.. and I would never go on a game's forum if I truly thought it was "horrible"

Maybe he goes on the games forum so the developers and other people can see that there are people out there that think it's horrible. Believe it or not your opinion is not the only one that matters. Forums aren't meant for only fluffy lovey stories about puppy dogs and ice cream and grand slams. Get your head out of the sand buddy.

We are all playing the same game. We can see the flaws. And we can chat about the flaws.
What I'm calling out is dumb over exaggeration and non constructive garbage posts calling it horrible.
Forums aren't for people to constantly roast what they're spending hours on either. Despite what you kids are led to believe from other kids.. Get your head out of your #$@ buddy.

Get ramones head out your mouth buddy. This game has serious issues with it. The criticism SDS has been receiving on here is totally correct.

Na, I play the same game. It's got a couple flaws, but still very good. The complaints are by the same dozen people and total over exaggerations..
I wouldn't continue to play a game that was terrible as some of you think it is. Why you would I have no idea.

Couple flaws?
Mike trout camped under a ball, but taking it to the face is just a flaw? What about the lies about perfect flyballs with 80+ power in normal conditions being a homerun every time? What about good pitching input, while the pitch goes directly over the middle of the plate? It’s been how many years now that mlb stadiums are basically unplayable? There are so many more flaws in this game. Way more than a couple.
I don’t get why you people on here defend SDS so much. Yea, we all enjoy the show, but it can be light years better. The hitting should go back to day 1. Legend feels unplayable online, but in custom leagues it plays great. I’m pretty sure custom leagues is still day 1 hitting. Idk, maybe not, but something feels different in there.

@maskedgrappler said in Patch 1.08:

Do you guys honestly think sds hasn't heard the criticism though? Like Ramone stumbles in here and is like "OH MY GOD THEY DON'T LIKE THE GAME!".

Parroting the same complaints over and over isnt going to get you anywhere.

Nah. They only respond to post about someone having trouble buying stubs. They don’t care what people think. The money keeps coming in and they continue to put out a subpar product because of it. The only way real change comes is if ALOT of people stop buying the game and stubs, but that also won’t ever happen. They have zero competition in this market. Therefore, they have no reason to improve. It’s the same every year. Lie to us on stream about how much the game is better, then go ghost mode on us after release.

@Nanthrax_1 said in Patch 1.08:

@T-Rox_09 said in Patch 1.08:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Patch 1.08:

@KOTANK1334 said in Patch 1.08:

@Nanthrax_1 said in Patch 1.08:

@KOTANK1334 said in Patch 1.08:

Game is horrible right now. But I dont think it's getting any better either.

Is it horrible? So horrible you're still playing it?

Yes, because this is the only game I play and I am a huge baseball fan. I'm open to your suggestions......

Go ahead and tell me how the game is just absolutely perfect.

It's not, but it's certainly not "horrible". It's not even "bad"... It's actually quite "good". It's got a few flaws but I'd even go as far to say it's "great"... Because it's baseball.. and I would never go on a game's forum if I truly thought it was "horrible"

Maybe he goes on the games forum so the developers and other people can see that there are people out there that think it's horrible. Believe it or not your opinion is not the only one that matters. Forums aren't meant for only fluffy lovey stories about puppy dogs and ice cream and grand slams. Get your head out of the sand buddy.

We are all playing the same game. We can see the flaws. And we can chat about the flaws.
What I'm calling out is dumb over exaggeration and non constructive garbage posts calling it horrible.
Forums aren't for people to constantly roast what they're spending hours on either. Despite what you kids are led to believe from other kids.. Get your head out of your #$@ buddy.

Get ramones head out your mouth buddy. This game has serious issues with it. The criticism SDS has been receiving on here is totally correct.

I have both in my rotation. Both studs.

@xX_bG_Zzy said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@YinzWins said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

The game will be great once early okay’s arent homeruns for people below 80 power and once your outfielders lock onto fly balls and not get animations like they are going to overrun routine fly balls. And last one when almost every pitcher you use stops throwing down the middle when you don’t even want the ball in the strike zone on certain counts.

If you are having trouble locking onto fly balls, try using the high view camera for fielding.

That could help, but what I’m talking about it a straight up glitch in the game. The OF just doesn’t even lock into the ball or he just takes it straight to the face. And my OF is trout, mantle, and bellinger. That shouldn’t happen in any camera setting.

@WiryHooligan22 said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@DaShrimpP1mp said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@WiryHooligan22 said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@DaShrimpP1mp said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@WiryHooligan22 said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@DaShrimpP1mp said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@WiryHooligan22 said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@SVTJOEY760 said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@fabdoIo said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

just admit the other person is better than you lol

I’ll admit it when he doesn’t get hits outside the zone and early ok homeruns

You just sound like a crybaby. Base hits do happen on balls out of the zone, and players can hit home rubs with early swings. Early does not mean that it will automatically be foul. It means it’ll be closer to the pull side foul pole. Depending on wind, power, and swing trajectory, not to mention the dimensions of the field, it’s perfectly fine for a ball with early/ok to go out of the park.

I think you might just be not good, or you get some bad luck. Either way, your complaint is unfounded in anything other than frustration.

“I think you might just be not good” , what a dumb quote I read on here when people are complaining about all the bugs. I’m curious, what’s your record and rating?
Your blind if you don’t see the problems with the hitting engine. It’s similar to 19. Good contact isn’t rewarded nearly enough. It’s completely frustrating squaring balls up all game just to watch your opponent get bailed out by bad user input.

My record is somewhere around 25-10, give or take. At the moment, I’m somewhere in the 700s I believe. I never said there weren’t problems, I just said that most problems are exaggerated.

Also, if you’re going to call someone dumb, don’t do something like say “your” when it should be “you’re.” It makes you look even more stupid than you are.

25-10 lol Ok smart guy. Get better before you start giving advice.

Hey, idiot...your record is 57-27. Mine is 34-21. It was 34-19 when I posted that. Those records aren’t much different.

Secondly, you can’t complain about the game AND judge somebody by their record. It doesn’t work that way. If the game has so many problems and winning is arbitrary, then that just makes you a hypocrite, which is likely true anyway. At the very least, it shows you’re really stupid, so there’s that.

As for my advice...at least it’s better than your stupid crybaby garbage.

That’s not similar at all but if that makes you feel better so be it. My record when I was rated 700 was way better than 34-21. There’s better competition 900+. If you haven’t made WS yet, you’re not even close to my level. So there’s that.
My point to you was stop telling people to get better when you’re not even in WS. You come in here and bash they OP cause he said valid problems with the game.
Get out your feelings, it’s a message board. No need for the name calling.

Ok, buddy. You’re really stupid, but you do you.

[censored] bro that’s some serious burn. Have fun in division series lol

@WiryHooligan22 said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@DaShrimpP1mp said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@WiryHooligan22 said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@DaShrimpP1mp said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@WiryHooligan22 said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@SVTJOEY760 said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

@fabdoIo said in I’m done with ranked seasons.:

just admit the other person is better than you lol

I’ll admit it when he doesn’t get hits outside the zone and early ok homeruns

You just sound like a crybaby. Base hits do happen on balls out of the zone, and players can hit home rubs with early swings. Early does not mean that it will automatically be foul. It means it’ll be closer to the pull side foul pole. Depending on wind, power, and swing trajectory, not to mention the dimensions of the field, it’s perfectly fine for a ball with early/ok to go out of the park.

I think you might just be not good, or you get some bad luck. Either way, your complaint is unfounded in anything other than frustration.

“I think you might just be not good” , what a dumb quote I read on here when people are complaining about all the bugs. I’m curious, what’s your record and rating?
Your blind if you don’t see the problems with the hitting engine. It’s similar to 19. Good contact isn’t rewarded nearly enough. It’s completely frustrating squaring balls up all game just to watch your opponent get bailed out by bad user input.

My record is somewhere around 25-10, give or take. At the moment, I’m somewhere in the 700s I believe. I never said there weren’t problems, I just said that most problems are exaggerated.

Also, if you’re going to call someone dumb, don’t do something like say “your” when it should be “you’re.” It makes you look even more stupid than you are.

25-10 lol Ok smart guy. Get better before you start giving advice.

Hey, idiot...your record is 57-27. Mine is 34-21. It was 34-19 when I posted that. Those records aren’t much different.

Secondly, you can’t complain about the game AND judge somebody by their record. It doesn’t work that way. If the game has so many problems and winning is arbitrary, then that just makes you a hypocrite, which is likely true anyway. At the very least, it shows you’re really stupid, so there’s that.

As for my advice...at least it’s better than your stupid crybaby garbage.

That’s not similar at all but if that makes you feel better so be it. My record when I was rated 700 was way better than 34-21. There’s better competition 900+. If you haven’t made WS yet, you’re not even close to my level. So there’s that.
My point to you was stop telling people to get better when you’re not even in WS. You come in here and bash they OP cause he said valid problems with the game.
Get out your feelings, it’s a message board. No need for the name calling.