Where are the TOP PROSPECTS??!!
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@bleachfro_MLBTS Well, the Mets were in L.A. in early May and mid April. It's only a couple hours down the road. He could have gone down there in either road trip.
Just saying.
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@StinkyMcPooter_XBL He could have. But to say they’re not holding onto scans we’d have to believe that every single new scan added is from guys going to SDS in the middle of the season (American League too). Is that more likely than SDS sitting on scans from Spring Training to leak out throughout the season?
Like I said earlier, this could all be avoided if they just released everything they had on the first update. Then there’d be no more wondering. I think this is purely a Franchise frustration.
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I was hoping Draje Baldwin would be added.
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Okay, so after much Googling, I think I have an understanding of what's going on:
MiLB players, whilst members of the MLBPA, have their own CBA. The CBA for minor league players states that rights to the player's likeness etc., are owned by the player and any use of the player's likeness has to be negotiated with the player themselves.
When the player's contract is selected by a major league team, then their rights are handled by MLBPI.
So, what this boils down to is if a player has not appeared in a MLB game, SDS must work out a deal with them. Once the player has appeared in a game, then SDS can use an image or likeness of the player they have retained.
Thus, it is possible SDS has a trove of face scans they collected in spring training, but are unable to use them until the player is on a 26 man MLB roster.
I know this doesn't explain all the young players, but it does explain some of them.
EDIT: Sorry, replied to the wrong post.
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@bleachfro_MLBTS Well, the Mets were in L.A. in early May and mid April. It's only a couple hours down the road. He could have gone down there in either road trip.
Just saying.
And the Dodgers just played in San Diego. Alex Vesia was just updated.
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@StinkyMcPooter_XBL Thanks for looking into that. I think the 26 man roster used to feel like the only rule. A guy gets called up and boom, face scan on the next update. Now it just feels more random and I think that’s where it’s gotten frustrating.
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@mhenry23_PSN
This just isn't true. None of what you guys are arguing is actually based in fact. Sony has an agreement with MLBPA that automatically allows the game to use their name and likeness. The only way for a player to NOT have their likeness used is to fill out a giant OPT OUT form so they won't be used. So, it's completely the opposite of what you're all saying. And the only reason why a player would opt out of free marketing for themselves is if they wanted to gamble and negotiate for more money. Sony doesn't have to chase players around to get their faces scanned either. There's more than enough images of them already to get a decent rendering of their likeness. Motion captures are reserved for the elite players. That's why Sony hired a single guy to mimic most of the players batting stances and swings.
Stop pretending that they have this crazy legal battle where they have to chase players around and get their permission individually. It's just not true.The truth is that there are issues with Sony and the multiple play options available. The right hand doesn't sometimes know what the left hand is doing. That's why you get player cards in Diamond Dynasty but not in Road to the Show or Franchise.
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@BillyBB1133_PSN If you have read all the posts, you will see I have mentioned this several times.
SDS and the MLBPA do indeed have an agreement. SDS does indeed have the rights to the images and likenesses of the players.
What they don't have, is the right to drag any player into their offices and force them to submit to a face scan. The players must still willfully, of their own volition, take their physical bodies to where SDS conducts the scans and get them done.
If they don't have the face scan, they can either wait until the player submits to one, or use a cheesy pasted on picture and end up looking like that screen of Altuve that @savefarris_psn posted previously. They don't wish to do the latter. Therefore, they wait until they get a scan.
So, please, understand the difference between having the rights to their likeness and obtaining their likeness.
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@SaveFarris_PSN I am not demanding players do things against their will and I have never said that lmao that would imply every player who doesn't have a scan is refusing to be scanned, that is just an absurd idea lol there is nothing to negotiate here. There is a difference between general sentiment and the actual legal reality and rights of the players based on the contracts they are included in. That case does not apply to what we are talking about for many reasons, but mainly, their image/likeness rights are held by the MLBPA so this is already settled in contract. I have no problems with players refusing to get scanned if they don't want to (!), but there is no legal reason why they aren't getting scanned. If it's an issue of not having the time or care during the season (very understandable), that's on SDS to do better during spring training. That is all I'm saying lol
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@inlu5twetru5t_xbl If they do the 40 man of every team that’s 1200 players because current guys also look different from year to year. Not every prospect is on the 40 man roster. ST is weeks before the game launches. You gotta be realistic here.
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@dodgers19k88_MLBTS this is fair and def not reasonable to expect perfection. In my ideal world they prioritize people they haven't scanned yet and specifically players who will likely be in the major this year or next, so wouldn't have to be the full 40 man. This seems intuitive and doable to me, but you're right it's not realistic to expect scans for the whole 40 man. I'm mostly basing my critique off what I expected in years past, but times do change. It's just frustrating man. I genuinely want to buy this game, but I just can't justify paying full price when this is the product. Scans is like the bare bare minimum for me because I would obviously appreciate better gameplay/graphics/motion etc. too. Appreciate the response though
