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Can the show finally give Wheeler his due?

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  • SaveFarris_PSNS Offline
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    “Just as good as any of those guys”

    Easy there, big fella! Those guys get the respect because they have a multi-year record of dominance and the hardware that goes with it. Can Wheeler get a couple more nights under his belt before we induct him into the Parthenon?

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    Nice unbiased analysis there man

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Can the show finally give Wheeler his due?:

    Nice unbiased analysis there man

    Hahahah. You’re right!

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    Since the playoffs started, Wheeler is the best pitcher in baseball and Nola is 2nd.
    If they win this round, he becomes a Philly legend.
    But I agree, he isn't quite DeGrom or Scherzer... Yet.
    Cole isn't in the conversation, in my opinion.

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    Both are diamond, after the playoffs both will be upgraded further and both will get very nice PS cards in the program.
    I kinda think they are getting the recognition.

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    He's a top 10-15 pitcher in baseball no doubt....but putting him near the top is a massive stretch.

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    @mrwonderful95 said in Can the show finally give Wheeler his due?:

    He’s absolutely dominant and the only LS pitchers that get respect are Degrom, scherzer and Cole. Come on now….wheeler is just as good as any of those guys. Sds pumps up guys like Corbin burnes and he can’t hold a candle to wheeler. Enough already.

    Those guys get better cards for one main reason K/9. SDS likes that stat above all others for pitchers. Every pitcher you mention has a higher k/9 and a lower h/9 rating than Wheeler.

    SDS does not know how to rate guys that are effective other ways (soft contact style pitchers) and it has been an issue for a long time.

    That said. He is having a great PS and should get a really nice boosted card.

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    @Dolenz_PSN said in Can the show finally give Wheeler his due?:

    @mrwonderful95 said in Can the show finally give Wheeler his due?:

    He’s absolutely dominant and the only LS pitchers that get respect are Degrom, scherzer and Cole. Come on now….wheeler is just as good as any of those guys. Sds pumps up guys like Corbin burnes and he can’t hold a candle to wheeler. Enough already.

    Those guys get better cards for one main reason K/9. SDS likes that stat above all others for pitchers. Every pitcher you mention has a higher k/9 and a lower h/9 rating than Wheeler.

    SDS does not know how to rate guys that are effective other ways (soft contact style pitchers) and it has been an issue for a long time.

    That said. He is having a great PS and should get a really nice boosted card.

    You’re so right. If it’s not 102mph or a sinker, the pitcher just isn’t viable in H2H play.

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    @Misfits_138_1_PSN said in Can the show finally give Wheeler his due?:

    Since the playoffs started, Wheeler is the best pitcher in baseball and Nola is 2nd.
    If they win this round, he becomes a Philly legend.
    But I agree, he isn't quite DeGrom or Scherzer... Yet.
    Cole isn't in the conversation, in my opinion.

    DeGrom, Scherzer, Verlander Kershaw. I think Cole is better than Wheeler, but he hasn’t had enough years as a top tier pitcher.

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    The guy wasn't even an All Star this year! He has one ASG selection! No hardware at all! And this guy is being compared to...

    • Jacob DeGrom - RoY and 4x ASGs, and 2x CYs

    • Max Scherzer - 8x ASGs and 3x CYs

    • Gerritt Cole - 5x ASGs

    [censored] man! What the hell are you smoking???

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