This game is a scam
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@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
I love all of you high school drop-outs that think that I don’t know anything about odds because of all the dumb reasons y’all have listed, that literally half of make no sense whatsoever. But anyways I guess I’ll go on to assert that the probability of me not pulling a diamond/top tier out of 5 set packs, 7 “big dog” packs, and 4 set choice packs is right at 2%. But this isn’t my first cold streak either... these 2% runs seem to happen quite frequently. So either A) Ive just experienced an INCREDIBLY unlucky streak or B) the odds listed on their packs are nowhere near accurate.
The answer is A. I'm that other guy who's pulled Trout out of a regular pack, Tatis twice, Acuna three times, Vlad twice, etc., etc. There are people like you and me all over this game, and many more somewhere in the middle.
In terms of perception, though, people with luck like mine don't come on here and rant about how the odds are [censored] because we're pulling monsters at an unsustainable rate that defies the odds. Think about that.
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@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
@kovz88_psn said in This game is a scam:
Someone doesn't understand how odds work
Guarantee you I understand them better than you.
mate you sound like a giant clown - everyone is laughing at you in this thread
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@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
Just spent 62.5k on Ketel Marte packs. 5 of the lower and the 25 k “special” pack. SDS is a bunch of liars! The pack odds are NOWHERE close to what they advertise!!! Bunch of scammers. Hope this company dies like EA and the rest. Pulled 3k worth of players out of 62.5k worth of packs?!?! Why even sell these?! Just say “GIVE YOUR HARD EARNED STUBS AWAY HERE!” Screw game companies that do this [censored]. Opened 7 “big dog” packs just to get nothing but “little puppies.” The new “choice” set packs are the biggest scam of all. Supposedly a 33% chance to get a diamond but yet I haven’t seen over an 83 ovr in 4 of them.... like why can’t they just put the ACTUAL odds up so I don’t get my hopes up. SDS used to be such a great company....
Yeah man it’s just a wisdom thing. Been playing these kinds of game modes too long and I do not ever buy packs and also do not even have the urge to whatsoever. Been down your road too many times before.
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@codywolfgang_xbl said in This game is a scam:
@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
Just spent 62.5k on Ketel Marte packs. 5 of the lower and the 25 k “special” pack. SDS is a bunch of liars! The pack odds are NOWHERE close to what they advertise!!! Bunch of scammers. Hope this company dies like EA and the rest. Pulled 3k worth of players out of 62.5k worth of packs?!?! Why even sell these?! Just say “GIVE YOUR HARD EARNED STUBS AWAY HERE!” Screw game companies that do this [censored]. Opened 7 “big dog” packs just to get nothing but “little puppies.” The new “choice” set packs are the biggest scam of all. Supposedly a 33% chance to get a diamond but yet I haven’t seen over an 83 ovr in 4 of them.... like why can’t they just put the ACTUAL odds up so I don’t get my hopes up. SDS used to be such a great company....
Yeah man it’s just a wisdom thing. Been playing these kinds of game modes too long and I do not ever buy packs and also do not even have the urge to whatsoever. Been down your road too many times before.
did you see the post on Reddit with the spanish guy laughing and the text below about pack odds? one of the best posts ever, ties perfectly to this OP
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@thehungryhole said in This game is a scam:
@codywolfgang_xbl said in This game is a scam:
@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
Just spent 62.5k on Ketel Marte packs. 5 of the lower and the 25 k “special” pack. SDS is a bunch of liars! The pack odds are NOWHERE close to what they advertise!!! Bunch of scammers. Hope this company dies like EA and the rest. Pulled 3k worth of players out of 62.5k worth of packs?!?! Why even sell these?! Just say “GIVE YOUR HARD EARNED STUBS AWAY HERE!” Screw game companies that do this [censored]. Opened 7 “big dog” packs just to get nothing but “little puppies.” The new “choice” set packs are the biggest scam of all. Supposedly a 33% chance to get a diamond but yet I haven’t seen over an 83 ovr in 4 of them.... like why can’t they just put the ACTUAL odds up so I don’t get my hopes up. SDS used to be such a great company....
Yeah man it’s just a wisdom thing. Been playing these kinds of game modes too long and I do not ever buy packs and also do not even have the urge to whatsoever. Been down your road too many times before.
did you see the post on Reddit with the spanish guy laughing and the text below about pack odds? one of the best posts ever, ties perfectly to this OP
Haven’t seen that. I’ll check it out haha.
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I agree with you. The pack odds are a lie!!! I have bought 3 of the 25k headliner packs this year and pulled the Headliner 3/3. Get gud at opening packs brah.
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i know man the casino is a scam too i lost so much money
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@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
Opened 7 “big dog” packs just to get nothing but little puppies.
Credit where it’s due. This gave me a good chuckle.
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@ericulous1_psn said in This game is a scam:
@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
@kovz88_psn said in This game is a scam:
@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
@kovz88_psn said in This game is a scam:
Someone doesn't understand how odds work
Guarantee you I understand them better than you.
Your post proves otherwise
Ok then what are the odds that I pull 7 “base” tiers in a row for the “big dog” packs? (20% chance of success)
Bro, why didn't you just buy Marte? He's 49K on the market. I can guarantee you the odds are 100% that you'd have Marte and an extra 20k stubs saved. Don't buy packs. Just buy the cards you want.
This is great!!!! You made my day!!!!
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@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
@kovz88_psn said in This game is a scam:
@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
@kovz88_psn said in This game is a scam:
Someone doesn't understand how odds work
Guarantee you I understand them better than you.
Your post proves otherwise
Ok then what are the odds that I pull 7 “base” tiers in a row for the “big dog” packs? (20% chance of success)
You do know whether you open 1 or 1,000, the odds per pack are the same. For instance, standard packs are 1:50 for a diamond. That doesn't mean you automatically get a diamond if you open 50.
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@the_dragon1912 said in This game is a scam:
The pack odds are based on every single pack opened by any person that plays this game. It doesn't matter how many packs you open, because the stated pack odds are applied to every pack opened by anyone. You can do all the statistical calculations you want but the probably of you not getting a diamond in 2000 packs is irrelevant because for every 2000 you open, there are millions more opened by other players
this is right, the packs opened are aggregated among all players, so this guy hit his 20 percent chance of not getting anything out the 7 headliner packs.....meanwhile someone else may of pulled two or possibly three......the odds are not on individual basis, they are an aggregate of all packs opened.
to OP, Go buy a hobby box of Topps and then complain you didn't get an insert that is 1/24 pack odds.......you didn't for the same reason you didn't here
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Not to be that guy, but why spend 60k on packs when the card is 50k in the store..
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@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in This game is a scam:
@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
@kovz88_psn said in This game is a scam:
@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
@kovz88_psn said in This game is a scam:
Someone doesn't understand how odds work
Guarantee you I understand them better than you.
Your post proves otherwise
Ok then what are the odds that I pull 7 “base” tiers in a row for the “big dog” packs? (20% chance of success)
You do know whether you open 1 or 1,000, the odds per pack are the same. For instance, standard packs are 1:50 for a diamond. That doesn't mean you automatically get a diamond if you open 50.
I would also think you have to figure in all the bronzes,silvers and golds that are available as well that could land in that last slot.
I don't worry about it my thought is if I pull one fine if I don't fine.
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Lol don’t matter how many packs you buy. If the odds are 1 out of 10 Packs get a 85+ that does not mean I buy 10 packs I am guaranteed a diamond. EVERY PACK has a 1 out of 10 chance or 10% chance of having the diamond in that particular pack.
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@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
@dmc04005_psn said in This game is a scam:
Some of you guys need to take a statistics class…specifically probability.
Ok wise guy... then lets see how good you are with statistics since you’re comin in here with that.. what are the odds that I don’t pull at least an 85 ovr diamond in 4 “choice” set packs that have a 33% chance of giving a diamond?
67%
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@savefarris_psn said in This game is a scam:
@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
@dmc04005_psn said in This game is a scam:
Some of you guys need to take a statistics class…specifically probability.
Ok wise guy... then lets see how good you are with statistics since you’re comin in here with that.. what are the odds that I don’t pull at least an 85 ovr diamond in 4 “choice” set packs that have a 33% chance of giving a diamond?
67%
the probability is actually 37, but this doesn't take in to fact the other hundreds of packs being opened...the other guy opening 4 packs could have gotten "his" hit which would make his probability go up to a higher chance of not getting a hit. This dude is focusing on only his 4 packs, when in reality there are hundreds of others being opened as well.
Dude would probably stay in a poker hand with pocket Aces when the flop has 2 10s and a J suited.......then the turn is a Q suited...then the River is an A..... :I got a a full house! other dude has a straight flush and you are done because you only focused on your hand and not the other guy and the cards on the table......what did Kenny Rogers say? "know when to hold em, know when to fold em."
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@savefarris_psn said in This game is a scam:
@so-icy42_xbl said in This game is a scam:
@dmc04005_psn said in This game is a scam:
Some of you guys need to take a statistics class…specifically probability.
Ok wise guy... then lets see how good you are with statistics since you’re comin in here with that.. what are the odds that I don’t pull at least an 85 ovr diamond in 4 “choice” set packs that have a 33% chance of giving a diamond?
67%
Are you a janitor at an Ivy League school that’s solves random advanced math problems in anonymity?
Anyways the poker thing intrigues me. I’m good with poker odds and strength of hand. Let me ask you this, would you knowingly go all in with 20% odds of winning a hand straight up, versus another player? And would you buy back in and continue to do it?
If that’s the case I’d say your second job isn’t poker. I’d say you have one job and that job covers your poker losses.
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While OP is right about odds and probability, I wonder how many diamond equipment/sponsorships/unlockables did you pull from your packs as a whole? I'm almost positive The odds everybody gets stuck on is pulling a diamond player...when in reality SDS takes into account the various unlockables and includes them in the calculations. Just my two cents
