How to tell you're gonna lose a game
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@grizzbear55_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ericulous1_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@grizzbear55_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@grizzbear55_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Why is this thread a thing? The OP has left out variables of the eqation.
Who was the pitcher? What pitch was being used? What speed was the pitches? Why were they all out of the zone low? This looks so staged to me as a poor attempt to claim foul offs are happening all the time. It obviously was vs CPU.
Yeah, because vs CPU gives you a pause timer. You big dummy, thank you for completely discrediting yourself so I don't have to.
Ok fair point with timer so it wasn't vs CPU.
But you still haven't explained why so many low and out of zone? If someone pitched crappy like that to me you bet your @ss i'm using contact. People like you who pitch like this is just as much of the problem with online gameplay as the people you are complaining about. Your lil screenshot shows there was a hit where in the zone was that?
Wait, what? "People like me who pitch like this are part of the problem"? Because you suck and chase every single pitch thrown in the dirt? Here I was thinking that was the whole goal of a pitcher in the game of baseball
. Is it crazy hour at the asylum or something, who let all these people out?Ideally you would be matched up with people even remotely close to your skill level. Those of us who swing at pitches like that are new, not good and trying to improve. Unfortunately the game has created it so you feel you have to stay that far out of the strike zone but for me, it completely makes me lose interest in the game. In real life, pitchers expand the strike zone at times by a few inches and of course they go for the kill when they have a rookie struggling. But for the most part,, they throw the ball over or near the plate. They are all matched against people reasonably close in skill level. Even a journeyman .200 hitting backup catcher can hit DeGrom once or twice. Even the Pirates can pull a win out on the Dodgers once in a blue moon.
This of course is not real baseball but, the same principals apply. @raesONE_PSN, you seem like a good dude, and I know there are many reasons why you might pitch this way to a hitter far less skilled, but to be frank, these are among the reasons many of us stay away from Online. I started playing BR last week and lasted 45 mins because nobody would throw the ball near the plate. If there was no lag, I might have had a small chance but I've only been playing this game a year (and it's the only video game I've played since Junior high), most of you would eat me alive. So I have 0 fun getting picked apart online...thus, I just won't play online.
And I get that you feel attacked on here and start throwing out the obvious "you suck and swing at every pitch," so I'll save you the time...I suck and swing at every pitch. I like to play my friends where we all try to stay somewhat near the strike zone and have a good competitive game. Otherwise I'm fine with CPU. If online ever becomes a better experience for new users without a decade of skill, maybe I'll try again.
And again, much of the problem is that players of great skill are matched against poor players, there is a certain amount of RNG that makes the good players have to really expose a bad players weaknesses. @Parradox-Cam_PSN, I absolutely never argued against that...I'm just imploring you to stop using that ridiculous cliche of Little Billy, it sounds like the Ratio guys on Twitter.
You are not alone! I'm a decade+ player and this type of pitching is trash.
It's one thing to throw something like this to get someone to swing but he was spamming it then blaming game for it getting fouled off. It was prolly obvious where he was going each pitch.
As far as being matched up against better players, when searching for opponent hold left stick to the left and it will stay within your ranking. Hope this helps!
This type of pitching is NOT trash. Put the guy in a corner by going 3-0, 2-0, 3-1 over and over again; he'll have to come in, or you walk. His confidence will be lower, and he'll end up hanging one.
New player should start in RS, using the slider to compete against themselves, until they figure out their level, what they need to work on and get better.
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@grizzbear55_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Anyway I'm off to bed it's late and I'm tired. @Bob_Loblaw1984 welcome back, check your DMs. Good night everyone
Again, please stop tagging me. On any of your accounts. I have zero respect for you and believe nothing you say. Deservedly so. You have issues that you can’t or won’t recognize.
He is probabally on your follow. You can click on your own name go to followers to verify. Then if there you can then click block. Then you will not be tagged anymore problem solved.
Did that last night when he moved on to direct messages after tagging me was no longer enough. He rarely posts anything that isn’t a complaint, boast, or put-down. So I assume I won’t be missing much.
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@bob_loblaw1984 said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@grizzbear55_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Anyway I'm off to bed it's late and I'm tired. @Bob_Loblaw1984 welcome back, check your DMs. Good night everyone
Again, please stop tagging me. On any of your accounts. I have zero respect for you and believe nothing you say. Deservedly so. You have issues that you can’t or won’t recognize.
He is probabally on your follow. You can click on your own name go to followers to verify. Then if there you can then click block. Then you will not be tagged anymore problem solved.
Did that last night when he moved on to direct messages after tagging me was no longer enough. He rarely posts anything that isn’t a complaint, boast, or put-down. So I assume I won’t be missing much.
But you did find that I'm not following you and removed you from my block list. And also that I sent you a DM as a way of reaching an olive branch, even though we were both at fault. But it's okay, I did my part. You wanna hold grudges, be my guest. But please be consistent about it and stay away from my threads as well then please, and don't try to aggravate or bait me into another argument. That's the least you could do, no?
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@bob_loblaw1984 said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@grizzbear55_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Anyway I'm off to bed it's late and I'm tired. @Bob_Loblaw1984 welcome back, check your DMs. Good night everyone
Again, please stop tagging me. On any of your accounts. I have zero respect for you and believe nothing you say. Deservedly so. You have issues that you can’t or won’t recognize.
He is probabally on your follow. You can click on your own name go to followers to verify. Then if there you can then click block. Then you will not be tagged anymore problem solved.
Did that last night when he moved on to direct messages after tagging me was no longer enough. He rarely posts anything that isn’t a complaint, boast, or put-down. So I assume I won’t be missing much.
I get it. There is a certain group of people on here that do just that. They want "thier" threads to be the topic like it's some accomplishment. Very rarely do they discuss, it's generally "my way or the highway" type threads.
They will claim they are willing to debate but when you call out the bs they resort to "cry baby" method and post personal attacks and avoid valid points of discussion.
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
If this is what your opponent does in the 1st inning.
Clearly he's terrible at the game, yet I can't get him out. Until that meatball gets forced with runners on bases.
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
If this is what your opponent does in the 1st inning.
Clearly he's terrible at the game, yet I can't get him out. Until that meatball gets forced with runners on bases.
I had one yesterday it was something like 15 strait foul balls out of the zone. I said f it threw a change right down the middle he popped it up on the infield. I don’t have the zone but his timing was good and he had all of the ball in the PCI, in 21 it would have been a no doubter, in 22 pop up to the infield lol
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
If this is what your opponent does in the 1st inning.
Clearly he's terrible at the game, yet I can't get him out. Until that meatball gets forced with runners on bases.
Then it goes 550 ft. Back back....GONE! I just laugh at this point. On to the next one.
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@aam34_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
If this is what your opponent does in the 1st inning.
Clearly he's terrible at the game, yet I can't get him out. Until that meatball gets forced with runners on bases.
Then it goes 550 ft. Back back....GONE! I just laugh at this point. On to the next one.
That's a good mindset to have and I try to do that as well, but it's hard and gets increasingly frustrating with every game that it happens in. Which is almost all of them at this point, because everyone has figured this out and is abusing the hell out of it.
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@aam34_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Agreed! It seems like every AB almost. I think the outer ring should shrink dramatically on pitches outside the zone. Maybe that would help, who knows. I play events a ton and the moonshot event tested my sanity.
True. I made my way through the moonshot event too, but there I had more patience with it because basically you have to use terrible pitching against the best hitters at this point in the game. It was annoying, but not super out of the ordinary given the circumstances. But this particular screenshot was in BR and my pitcher had high 80s H/9 and K/9 which at this point in the game cycle is pretty decent. Yet I could not get any of his guys out, including someone like Joey Gallo who has 0 contact and 0 vision. There's something fundamentally wrong with that.
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Man this game is disgusting lol
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@dudeman22__psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Man this game is disgusting lol
It is and it makes me sad. But it does make me happy that more and more people are starting to realize just how bad it is. I had a review posted here 2 weeks ago, people were coming for my neck because they felt like I posted it too soon and my sample size wasn't big enough. But when you know, you know. Now I hear and see it everywhere and the streamers are slowly starting to transition as well. They try to hide it and force positive attitude, but they're only human as well and they can't hide their displeasure forever. And they're not thankfully.
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
If this is what your opponent does in the 1st inning.
Clearly he's terrible at the game, yet I can't get him out. Until that meatball gets forced with runners on bases.
yeah I know im done for if I play someone like this. they are normally the players that get some stupid rollers for hits then foul off 8 pitches and put a forced hanger into the upper deck.
Ive also played some that I strike out 8-10 times and look foolish, yet always seem to get a convenient bomb, meanwhile I strike out zero times and have a fly ball simulator
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@crimson_monk_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
If this is what your opponent does in the 1st inning.
Clearly he's terrible at the game, yet I can't get him out. Until that meatball gets forced with runners on bases.
yeah I know im done for if I play someone like this. they are normally the players that get some stupid rollers for hits then foul off 8 pitches and put a forced hanger into the upper deck.
Ive also played some that I strike out 8-10 times and look foolish, yet always seem to get a convenient bomb, meanwhile I strike out zero times and have a fly ball simulator
This x1000
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
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@hustlinowl_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
If this is what your opponent does in the 1st inning.
Clearly he's terrible at the game, yet I can't get him out. Until that meatball gets forced with runners on bases.
I really think you need to stop playing... I'm honestly getting concerned for your health
No need, I'm fine. I'd appreciate it if you'd like to contribute in this thread, then please respond on topic. If not, just keep scrolling.
It was on topic ..I was responding to your concerning posts
On topic would be responding or engaging in debate regarding the issue I posted, by either formulating arguments why you feel I'm wrong or by saying you haven't experienced similar situations. You either have comprehensive issues or lack some cognitive abilities.
I made a comment concerning implying your issues are a bit much
Yes, unlike you I don't lack comprehensive skills. As I explained it is not on topic. I'm starting to think I'm being too harsh on you by treating you as a normal thinking individual because clearly you're special.
Yeah I was right ..you need help
If you notice I'm not the only one who is worried about you .you are way too stressed out
Ha the other guy is @HustlinOwl_PSN who never passes on an opportunity to dump on anything and everything I have to say
. Someone told me he seems like my #1 fan and I think they might be right. So yeah, that's your supporter. Yay!Why you tagging me crybaby
Because I can.
Really mature... I'm really losing respect for you
Oh no! Hope I'll somehow find the strength to overcome the tragedy.
You know...I really think you are someone who gets picked on in real life..so you act superior in here
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@stinkysman77_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@hustlinowl_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
If this is what your opponent does in the 1st inning.
Clearly he's terrible at the game, yet I can't get him out. Until that meatball gets forced with runners on bases.
I really think you need to stop playing... I'm honestly getting concerned for your health
No need, I'm fine. I'd appreciate it if you'd like to contribute in this thread, then please respond on topic. If not, just keep scrolling.
It was on topic ..I was responding to your concerning posts
On topic would be responding or engaging in debate regarding the issue I posted, by either formulating arguments why you feel I'm wrong or by saying you haven't experienced similar situations. You either have comprehensive issues or lack some cognitive abilities.
I made a comment concerning implying your issues are a bit much
Yes, unlike you I don't lack comprehensive skills. As I explained it is not on topic. I'm starting to think I'm being too harsh on you by treating you as a normal thinking individual because clearly you're special.
Yeah I was right ..you need help
If you notice I'm not the only one who is worried about you .you are way too stressed out
Ha the other guy is @HustlinOwl_PSN who never passes on an opportunity to dump on anything and everything I have to say
. Someone told me he seems like my #1 fan and I think they might be right. So yeah, that's your supporter. Yay!Why you tagging me crybaby
Because I can.
Really mature... I'm really losing respect for you
Oh no! Hope I'll somehow find the strength to overcome the tragedy.
You know...I really think you are someone who gets picked on in real life..so you act superior in here
Oh yeah for sure man, wedgies all day and all my lunch money went to the star QB. Girls pretended to be into me, and I knew better.. right? But it was so convincing that I fell in love and I thought she was sincere. But she stood me up at prom to laugh at me with her friends, and actually went with that same QB who took all my lunch money. It was hard. Very hard.
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@domebay33_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@domebay33_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Op, you haven’t figured out that is the balance for you spamming pitches in the dirt?
.Honestly I've never understood the people who say throwing low offspeed should be penalized. The penalty is giving up walks. Walk 4 times and you score a run. Trust me, those "dirtballers" won't throw in the dirt very long if they give up walk after walk after walk. And that's when they have to come into the zone to challenge and THAT'S when you punish them and score all those runners. In other words; baseball 101
But yeah you keep chasing? I'm gonna throw in the dirt all game long. As I should. Anyone who tries to even think otherwise needs to change hobbies.
I’ll be honest, I used to come on here and complain about this when I first started playing Ranked regularly. That was about 2018.
I’ve been noticing the exact same thing in the MLB this year. Just last night I watched Jesse Winker see 22 pitches in 2 appearances because pitchers refused to pitch to him. This is why he leads the league in BB.
Is it frustrating and boring when pitchers refuse to give in and throw in the zone? Yes! Does it happen in rl? Also yes.
Should the MLB make a rule about throwing consecutive offspeed pitches in the dirt?
Nobody would ever suggest or agree to that. Why is it in this video game?
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@halfbutt_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@domebay33_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@domebay33_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Op, you haven’t figured out that is the balance for you spamming pitches in the dirt?
.Honestly I've never understood the people who say throwing low offspeed should be penalized. The penalty is giving up walks. Walk 4 times and you score a run. Trust me, those "dirtballers" won't throw in the dirt very long if they give up walk after walk after walk. And that's when they have to come into the zone to challenge and THAT'S when you punish them and score all those runners. In other words; baseball 101
But yeah you keep chasing? I'm gonna throw in the dirt all game long. As I should. Anyone who tries to even think otherwise needs to change hobbies.
I’ll be honest, I used to come on here and complain about this when I first started playing Ranked regularly. That was about 2018.
I’ve been noticing the exact same thing in the MLB this year. Just last night I watched Jesse Winker see 22 pitches in 2 appearances because pitchers refused to pitch to him. This is why he leads the league in BB.
Is it frustrating and boring when pitchers refuse to give in and throw in the zone? Yes! Does it happen in rl? Also yes.
Should the MLB make a rule about throwing consecutive offspeed pitches in the dirt?
Nobody would ever suggest or agree to that. Why is it in this video game?
If it were me, I'd love my opponent to constantly throw outside the zone. I'll take all those walks and absolutely destroy him once the pitcher confidence is gone.
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As a new to ranked player, recognizing and taking pitches was hard. It’s still hard, but I’m better at it. I’m not even playing the game this year, so it’s moot. Once I started feeling like I was competing against the game AND my opponent, it stopped being fun.
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@halfbutt_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
As a new to ranked player, recognizing and taking pitches was hard. It’s still hard, but I’m better at it. I’m not even playing the game this year, so it’s moot. Once I started feeling like I was competing against the game AND my opponent, it stopped being fun.
It is hard, but what happened to accepting that as a challenge? Not addressing you personally, but everyone wants to be good at everything right away. It doesn't work like that, not with video games and certainly not in life.
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ericulous1_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@grizzbear55_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@grizzbear55_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Why is this thread a thing? The OP has left out variables of the eqation.
Who was the pitcher? What pitch was being used? What speed was the pitches? Why were they all out of the zone low? This looks so staged to me as a poor attempt to claim foul offs are happening all the time. It obviously was vs CPU.
Yeah, because vs CPU gives you a pause timer. You big dummy, thank you for completely discrediting yourself so I don't have to.
Ok fair point with timer so it wasn't vs CPU.
But you still haven't explained why so many low and out of zone? If someone pitched crappy like that to me you bet your @ss i'm using contact. People like you who pitch like this is just as much of the problem with online gameplay as the people you are complaining about. Your lil screenshot shows there was a hit where in the zone was that?
Wait, what? "People like me who pitch like this are part of the problem"? Because you suck and chase every single pitch thrown in the dirt? Here I was thinking that was the whole goal of a pitcher in the game of baseball
. Is it crazy hour at the asylum or something, who let all these people out?This of course is not real baseball but, the same principals apply. @raesONE_PSN, you seem like a good dude, and I know there are many reasons why you might pitch this way to a hitter far less skilled, but to be frank, these are among the reasons many of us stay away from Online. I started playing BR last week and lasted 45 mins because nobody would throw the ball near the plate. If there was no lag, I might have had a small chance but I've only been playing this game a year (and it's the only video game I've played since Junior high), most of you would eat me alive. So I have 0 fun getting picked apart online...thus, I just won't play online.
I'll say this man, there is no shame in getting torn to bits by players who have been playing a lot longer than you have. When I started playing, I couldn't hit for my life and I practically lost every game I played. I didn't care. It actually gave me an incentive to practice and try to find ways to improve my game. And what I learned was to keep playing tons and tons of games against preferably players who are better than me helped me immensely. In my opinion that is the only way to get better. Now I do have to say that I did enjoy it in those days, even when I got hammered. Because the game was fair. Today, I don't think I could or would be willing to go through that because I feel like they killed the learning curve for reasons I have explained in this thread. But there are still many people who do enjoy it, and if you're on of them then I'd encourage you to keep playing online and don't focus on the results but on improving your game overall. Even if it would hypothetically come at the cost of 1000 losses.
I think the problem with your suggestion is that the current state of the game makes it really difficult to actually improve.
You can do everything right and still not get results (which also happens in real baseball, yes).
By all means, keep playing if you are having fun. I agree with you there.But if you want to practice and be rewarded for your efforts, prepare to be disappointed.
