How to tell you're gonna lose a game
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
I would assume you are a 3 inning BR a player as well?
I hate BR, but how does the innings played per game impact the foul balls situation?
He's a troll bro. Said he only plays online rated the other day and no DD. Yet he has been here for a few days with 0 contribution other than poor attempts to troll. It's better to just ignore him.
Lmfao man, I see, I have nothing better to do right now tho… I tried to go to sleep and couldn’t. I’ll see if I can’t get anything good out of this. Maybe I get bored and fall asleep
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
I would assume you are a 3 inning BR a player as well?
I hate BR, but how does the innings played per game impact the foul balls situation?
You know what fixes the fouls balls figuring out what they swing and miss at what location ect… takes more than a 3 inning game to figure it out lol
So, swinging very early/late at consecutive pitches in different locations out of the zone and still fouling off isn’t a problem?
Becuase in the first AB of the last 9 innings game I played my opponent fouled off 16 pitches with all sorts of timing until I ended up hanging one and he hit a double to the RF gap?
Don’t hang a pitch but one thing I wish they got rid of or greatly reduce the size of is the outer pci it should be completely gone.
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@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
I would assume you are a 3 inning BR a player as well?
I hate BR, but how does the innings played per game impact the foul balls situation?
You know what fixes the fouls balls figuring out what they swing and miss at what location ect… takes more than a 3 inning game to figure it out lol
So, swinging very early/late at consecutive pitches in different locations out of the zone and still fouling off isn’t a problem?
Becuase in the first AB of the last 9 innings game I played my opponent fouled off 16 pitches with all sorts of timing until I ended up hanging one and he hit a double to the RF gap?
Don’t hang a pitch but one thing I wish they got rid of or greatly reduce the size of is the outer pci it should be completely gone.
There we go dude, you’re starting to understand what we’re trying to say here… the excessive amount of foul balls is due to the outer pci that gets bigger when you swing for contact instead of normal/power. They make it smaller and gameplay improves a ton.
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I knew this was not a hopeless case @raesONE_PSN … this is why I still believe in humanity!
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
I would assume you are a 3 inning BR a player as well?
I hate BR, but how does the innings played per game impact the foul balls situation?
You know what fixes the fouls balls figuring out what they swing and miss at what location ect… takes more than a 3 inning game to figure it out lol
So, swinging very early/late at consecutive pitches in different locations out of the zone and still fouling off isn’t a problem?
Becuase in the first AB of the last 9 innings game I played my opponent fouled off 16 pitches with all sorts of timing until I ended up hanging one and he hit a double to the RF gap?
Don’t hang a pitch but one thing I wish they got rid of or greatly reduce the size of is the outer pci it should be completely gone.
There we go dude, you’re starting to understand what we’re trying to say here… the excessive amount of foul balls is due to the outer pci that gets bigger when you swing for contact instead of normal/power. They make it smaller and gameplay improves a ton.
I have always said this. I even made a post about taking it out got mostly ignored or drowned out with the complainers But even still with it 1.5 ERA with 76 and 69 and below pitchers going up against Yankees dodgers over and over taking out that outer pci would only make me more lethal
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@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@spc_garza_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
I would assume you are a 3 inning BR a player as well?
I hate BR, but how does the innings played per game impact the foul balls situation?
You know what fixes the fouls balls figuring out what they swing and miss at what location ect… takes more than a 3 inning game to figure it out lol
So, swinging very early/late at consecutive pitches in different locations out of the zone and still fouling off isn’t a problem?
Becuase in the first AB of the last 9 innings game I played my opponent fouled off 16 pitches with all sorts of timing until I ended up hanging one and he hit a double to the RF gap?
Don’t hang a pitch but one thing I wish they got rid of or greatly reduce the size of is the outer pci it should be completely gone.
There we go dude, you’re starting to understand what we’re trying to say here… the excessive amount of foul balls is due to the outer pci that gets bigger when you swing for contact instead of normal/power. They make it smaller and gameplay improves a ton.
I have always said this. But even still with it 1.5 ERA with 76 and 69 and below pitchers going up against Yankees dodgers over and over taking out that outer pci would only make me more lethal
This is exactly what we want from SDS, if you’re better pitcher than what I am as a hitter, I want the game to reward you for being smarter than me and to punish me for my bad decisions at the plate.
You shouldn’t have to sweat and throw 16 pitches to get me out when I clearly have zero plate discipline.
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@parradox-cam_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ericulous1_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Can I move to Ban the term Little Billy? You have no idea how ridiculous it sounds. Please find something else funny to say about this game people. Stop using tired cliches referring to little boys.
You know what else is ridiculous? The same group of members who jump onto threads and provide nothing but insults towards someone who’s talking badly about they’re precious RNG game that helps them win so they keep playing.
You want to ban Billy but everything else goes? Explain your mindset on that.
Dude, I could care less about RNG. I don't don't play online. I play this game for fun at the end of the day. I'm not competitive at all. I'd rather beat the computer on rookie 45-0 then play a 2-1 game online. If ai want to compete, I'll go play actual sports. This is a hobby. Online is a mess like you said. But for the love of God, stop using the term Little Billy. Not only is it tired but it sounds super creepy.
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@ericulous1_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@parradox-cam_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ericulous1_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Can I move to Ban the term Little Billy? You have no idea how ridiculous it sounds. Please find something else funny to say about this game people. Stop using tired cliches referring to little boys.
You know what else is ridiculous? The same group of members who jump onto threads and provide nothing but insults towards someone who’s talking badly about they’re precious RNG game that helps them win so they keep playing.
You want to ban Billy but everything else goes? Explain your mindset on that.
Dude, I could care less about RNG. I don't don't play online. I play this game for fun at the end of the day. I'm not competitive at all. I'd rather beat the computer on rookie 45-0 then play a 2-1 game online. If ai want to compete, I'll go play actual sports. This is a hobby. Online is a mess like you said. But for the love of God, stop using the term Little Billy. Not only is it tired but it sounds super creepy.
I’ll stop using it once eatyum shows me his proof that feedback was inaccurate last year and that’s why they removed it.
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Anyway I'm off to bed it's late and I'm tired. @Bob_Loblaw1984 welcome back, check your DMs. Good night everyone
Again, please stop tagging me. On any of your accounts. I have zero respect for you and believe nothing you say. Deservedly so. You have issues that you can’t or won’t recognize.
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@grizzbear55_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@grizzbear55_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Why is this thread a thing? The OP has left out variables of the eqation.
Who was the pitcher? What pitch was being used? What speed was the pitches? Why were they all out of the zone low? This looks so staged to me as a poor attempt to claim foul offs are happening all the time. It obviously was vs CPU.
Yeah, because vs CPU gives you a pause timer. You big dummy, thank you for completely discrediting yourself so I don't have to.
Ok fair point with timer so it wasn't vs CPU.
But you still haven't explained why so many low and out of zone? If someone pitched crappy like that to me you bet your @ss i'm using contact. People like you who pitch like this is just as much of the problem with online gameplay as the people you are complaining about. Your lil screenshot shows there was a hit where in the zone was that?
Wait, what? "People like me who pitch like this are part of the problem"? Because you suck and chase every single pitch thrown in the dirt? Here I was thinking that was the whole goal of a pitcher in the game of baseball
. Is it crazy hour at the asylum or something, who let all these people out?Ideally you would be matched up with people even remotely close to your skill level. Those of us who swing at pitches like that are new, not good and trying to improve. Unfortunately the game has created it so you feel you have to stay that far out of the strike zone but for me, it completely makes me lose interest in the game. In real life, pitchers expand the strike zone at times by a few inches and of course they go for the kill when they have a rookie struggling. But for the most part,, they throw the ball over or near the plate. They are all matched against people reasonably close in skill level. Even a journeyman .200 hitting backup catcher can hit DeGrom once or twice. Even the Pirates can pull a win out on the Dodgers once in a blue moon.
This of course is not real baseball but, the same principals apply. @raesONE_PSN, you seem like a good dude, and I know there are many reasons why you might pitch this way to a hitter far less skilled, but to be frank, these are among the reasons many of us stay away from Online. I started playing BR last week and lasted 45 mins because nobody would throw the ball near the plate. If there was no lag, I might have had a small chance but I've only been playing this game a year (and it's the only video game I've played since Junior high), most of you would eat me alive. So I have 0 fun getting picked apart online...thus, I just won't play online.
And I get that you feel attacked on here and start throwing out the obvious "you suck and swing at every pitch," so I'll save you the time...I suck and swing at every pitch. I like to play my friends where we all try to stay somewhat near the strike zone and have a good competitive game. Otherwise I'm fine with CPU. If online ever becomes a better experience for new users without a decade of skill, maybe I'll try again.
And again, much of the problem is that players of great skill are matched against poor players, there is a certain amount of RNG that makes the good players have to really expose a bad players weaknesses. @Parradox-Cam_PSN, I absolutely never argued against that...I'm just imploring you to stop using that ridiculous cliche of Little Billy, it sounds like the Ratio guys on Twitter.
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@Ericulous1_PSN Skill based match making will not make it any better, there will be a lot of smurfing around.
Do challenge of the week often, that helps with plate discipline, pci placement and swing timing. You’ll notice improvement sooner than later
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@Ericulous1_PSN Skill based match making will not make it any better, there will be a lot of smurfing around.
Do challenge of the week often, that helps with plate discipline, pci placement and swing timing. You’ll notice improvement sooner than later
Thanks man, I'll give it a try.
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@domebay33_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@domebay33_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@domebay33_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Op, you haven’t figured out that is the balance for you spamming pitches in the dirt?
Didn’t SDS say last year they were gonna punish spamming the same pitch too much?
Have you tried pitching to contact? Keeping them off balance with location/speed mixups?
Bold to complain about cheese tactics not working.
Why would I pitch for contact if my opponent can’t lay off anything? I’d rather strike him out on 3 pitches instead of giving him a chance to run into a lucky homerun
I can’t argue with that, but it further proves that the game is not competitive or even realistic at this point. Which I think is the same argument from OP.
Ponder this, people get bailed out with foul tips on balls in the dirt… but what about the passed ball animation that flashes the ball going all the way to the backstop?? Only for the catcher to still have the ball and throw down to 1st for the out or preventing runners from advancing.
That is a total bailout to dirtballers, and obviously programmed into the game. Not necessarily to balance or bail anybody out, but in past years it was a requested fix due to complaints of too many passed balls.
So maybe this foul tip complaint was SDS’s fix the dirtball spam, the same way bloop hits and errors scored as hits address lack of production or hit variety lol.
One thing I think we all could agree on is this game is Frankenstein’s monster stitched together and needs a major overhaul or completely new engine and code.
Honestly I've never understood the people who say throwing low offspeed should be penalized. The penalty is giving up walks. Walk 4 times and you score a run. Trust me, those "dirtballers" won't throw in the dirt very long if they give up walk after walk after walk. And that's when they have to come into the zone to challenge and THAT'S when you punish them and score all those runners. In other words; baseball 101
But yeah you keep chasing? I'm gonna throw in the dirt all game long. As I should. Anyone who tries to even think otherwise needs to change hobbies.
Not penalized, but there should be risk… not only of walks, but also risking passed balls and occasionally a Vlad Guerrero Sr type hit from the ground/out of the strike zone to the bleachers.
Now every catcher is pudge with the blocking skills, and once top ranked players are complaining about foul tips on dirtballs. It’s all futile. This game isn’t competitive, and barely worth hobby status.
The ball going to the backstop on that split second animation is literally what the result of those pitches should be pretty often. But SDS bails you out just like the contact free swingers.
Yeah I don’t think people have realized for years blocking has been outweighed by pitch release. And with “perfects” being a cake walk, it’s almost impossible for a ball to roll by these days. That’s what happens when you mask one issue with another. It’s created a second issue, then a third.
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I suggest we now use the term Baby Billy… He's not a baby, he's a slender silver haired man in his late 60's. And he would equally suck at playing the Show online!
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@eatyum_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@parradox-cam_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@eatyum_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Hey if you like this game you are a little boy who loves the game helping him
Also stop insulting me please, thank you.
Ah logic.
Nothing to say about all the bs that’s been shared for your own eyes to see huh? Figures…every year is the same. We are conspiracy theorist until you can see it for yourselves and then your crickets.
Logic.
I have no interest in debating someone who ignores whatever anyone says and ignores any proof provided because it doesn't fit his narrative.
I'll debate Raesone all day long, he's a solid dude who knows how to debate and always makes actual constructive criticism posts.
Until this year; he should take a break, he’s devolved into a condescending (j)erk
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@bob_loblaw1984 said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Anyway I'm off to bed it's late and I'm tired. @Bob_Loblaw1984 welcome back, check your DMs. Good night everyone
Again, please stop tagging me. On any of your accounts. I have zero respect for you and believe nothing you say. Deservedly so. You have issues that you can’t or won’t recognize.
Okay, well I tried to be the bigger man by reaching out an olive branch even though we were both guilty of toxic behavior towards each other. That says more about you than it does about me. Either way it's fine, but I'll say one last time that I still don't see why you would think I that I run multiple accounts. I have never held back against anyone on this account and have always spoken my mind regardless of content, so I have no need for an alt account.
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@ecureuil2011_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@eatyum_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@parradox-cam_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@eatyum_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Hey if you like this game you are a little boy who loves the game helping him
Also stop insulting me please, thank you.
Ah logic.
Nothing to say about all the bs that’s been shared for your own eyes to see huh? Figures…every year is the same. We are conspiracy theorist until you can see it for yourselves and then your crickets.
Logic.
I have no interest in debating someone who ignores whatever anyone says and ignores any proof provided because it doesn't fit his narrative.
I'll debate Raesone all day long, he's a solid dude who knows how to debate and always makes actual constructive criticism posts.
Until this year; he should take a break, he’s devolved into a condescending (j)erk
And who are you exactly? You don't know a thing about me, and I certainly don't know a thing about you. I engage in heated debates, yes. But if I for some reason am condescending towards someone, then that person did or said something that made them deserve that behavior.
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@ericulous1_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@grizzbear55_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@grizzbear55_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Why is this thread a thing? The OP has left out variables of the eqation.
Who was the pitcher? What pitch was being used? What speed was the pitches? Why were they all out of the zone low? This looks so staged to me as a poor attempt to claim foul offs are happening all the time. It obviously was vs CPU.
Yeah, because vs CPU gives you a pause timer. You big dummy, thank you for completely discrediting yourself so I don't have to.
Ok fair point with timer so it wasn't vs CPU.
But you still haven't explained why so many low and out of zone? If someone pitched crappy like that to me you bet your @ss i'm using contact. People like you who pitch like this is just as much of the problem with online gameplay as the people you are complaining about. Your lil screenshot shows there was a hit where in the zone was that?
Wait, what? "People like me who pitch like this are part of the problem"? Because you suck and chase every single pitch thrown in the dirt? Here I was thinking that was the whole goal of a pitcher in the game of baseball
. Is it crazy hour at the asylum or something, who let all these people out?This of course is not real baseball but, the same principals apply. @raesONE_PSN, you seem like a good dude, and I know there are many reasons why you might pitch this way to a hitter far less skilled, but to be frank, these are among the reasons many of us stay away from Online. I started playing BR last week and lasted 45 mins because nobody would throw the ball near the plate. If there was no lag, I might have had a small chance but I've only been playing this game a year (and it's the only video game I've played since Junior high), most of you would eat me alive. So I have 0 fun getting picked apart online...thus, I just won't play online.
I'll say this man, there is no shame in getting torn to bits by players who have been playing a lot longer than you have. When I started playing, I couldn't hit for my life and I practically lost every game I played. I didn't care. It actually gave me an incentive to practice and try to find ways to improve my game. And what I learned was to keep playing tons and tons of games against preferably players who are better than me helped me immensely. In my opinion that is the only way to get better. Now I do have to say that I did enjoy it in those days, even when I got hammered. Because the game was fair. Today, I don't think I could or would be willing to go through that because I feel like they killed the learning curve for reasons I have explained in this thread. But there are still many people who do enjoy it, and if you're on of them then I'd encourage you to keep playing online and don't focus on the results but on improving your game overall. Even if it would hypothetically come at the cost of 1000 losses.
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@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ecureuil2011_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@eatyum_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@parradox-cam_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@eatyum_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Hey if you like this game you are a little boy who loves the game helping him
Also stop insulting me please, thank you.
Ah logic.
Nothing to say about all the bs that’s been shared for your own eyes to see huh? Figures…every year is the same. We are conspiracy theorist until you can see it for yourselves and then your crickets.
Logic.
I have no interest in debating someone who ignores whatever anyone says and ignores any proof provided because it doesn't fit his narrative.
I'll debate Raesone all day long, he's a solid dude who knows how to debate and always makes actual constructive criticism posts.
Until this year; he should take a break, he’s devolved into a condescending (j)erk
And who are you exactly? You don't know a thing about me, and I certainly don't know a thing about you. I engage in heated debates, yes. But if I for some reason am condescending towards someone, then that person did or said something that made them deserve that behavior.
I've been around for a long long time; except my main account has been suspended for a reason I don't know; not saying it's not deserved but I'd like to know what ToS rule I've broken.
Anyway, what I'm saying is you make valid points, sometimes people can disagree, but by making multiple threads about the same stuff, you get suckered into the name calling. You know who will respond, and what that response will be. Instead of just ignoring it, you invalidate everything you say by posing as the resident expert, pointing to your record and your years of playing. You ain't alone, pal.
Other than your satisfaction with the game, I don't know what changed in your life, if anything, but you're wasting all your goodwill by being condescending as soon as someone disagrees; whether a troll or a calm, contradictory observation. In all my years here, I've never seen you this aggressive. I don't know, block people, ignore them, interact with the people who don't give you grief.
Just your answer here, "that person deserved to be condescended to"; I mean, if you don't see the arrogance in that response...
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@ecureuil2011_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@raesone_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@ecureuil2011_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@eatyum_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@parradox-cam_psn said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
@eatyum_mlbts said in How to tell you're gonna lose a game:
Hey if you like this game you are a little boy who loves the game helping him
Also stop insulting me please, thank you.
Ah logic.
Nothing to say about all the bs that’s been shared for your own eyes to see huh? Figures…every year is the same. We are conspiracy theorist until you can see it for yourselves and then your crickets.
Logic.
I have no interest in debating someone who ignores whatever anyone says and ignores any proof provided because it doesn't fit his narrative.
I'll debate Raesone all day long, he's a solid dude who knows how to debate and always makes actual constructive criticism posts.
Until this year; he should take a break, he’s devolved into a condescending (j)erk
And who are you exactly? You don't know a thing about me, and I certainly don't know a thing about you. I engage in heated debates, yes. But if I for some reason am condescending towards someone, then that person did or said something that made them deserve that behavior.
I've been around for a long long time; except my main account has been suspended for a reason I don't know; not saying it's not deserved but I'd like to know what ToS rule I've broken.
Anyway, what I'm saying is you make valid points, sometimes people can disagree, but by making multiple threads about the same stuff, you get suckered into the name calling. You know who will respond, and what that response will be. Instead of just ignoring it, you invalidate everything you say by posing as the resident expert, pointing to your record and your years of playing. You ain't alone, pal.
Other than your satisfaction with the game, I don't know what changed in your life, if anything, but you're wasting all your goodwill by being condescending as soon as someone disagrees; whether a troll or a calm, contradictory observation. In all my years here, I've never seen you this aggressive. I don't know, block people, ignore them, interact with the people who don't give you grief.
Just your answer here, "that person deserved to be condescended to"; I mean, if you don't see the arrogance in that response...
So what was your user tag that got banned, maybe I do know you. Since you say you've been around for a while. There's no need to hide in anonymity, I'm not doing that either.
And I make these threads because I want to showcase the things that are fundamentally wrong with this game. I don't see that as a problem. I don't do it to start arguments with people and when people calmly disagree with me then I am perfectly able to have a solid debate about it. But when the people come in who start using rhetoric towards me, am I not allowed to defend myself and engage in that same rhetoric? And when people try to discredit me or my lack of knowledge/experience in their eyes, am I not allowed to point out their mistake by countering with my "accomplishments" (that sounds funny because it doesn't mean anything in real life, but for the sake of argument I'll use that word)? Now if I would start spewing them around for no reason at all and trying to make myself look good, then yes. You'd have a point. But that's not the case.
And lastly, thank you for your advice on how to handle these types of situations. I think you mean well, despite the arrogance accusations and all that, but I'll respectfully say that I'll handle things the way I prefer to handle them. Sometimes I do ignore, sometimes I do block. And sometimes I make someone eat dirt.
