PCI overhaul
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Outlier is a problem any way you cut it. PERKS in sports games are a problem, period. Like badges in 2K or X-Factor in Madden. They override ratings and increase the cheese.
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Also, giving a random prospect an outlier sinker nearly ruined the game for non-WS-level players for a good part of the year.
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@suntlacrimae50_psn said in PCI overhaul:
Also, giving a random prospect an outlier sinker nearly ruined the game for non-WS-level players for a good part of the year.
The outlier sinker isn't why Cabrera was good. Its because his release is glitched. I don't see many people talking about how OP Walter Johnson, Zack Britton, Gregory Soto and Alex Reyes are, and they all have outlier sinkers
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@the_dragon1912 said in PCI overhaul:
@suntlacrimae50_psn said in PCI overhaul:
Also, giving a random prospect an outlier sinker nearly ruined the game for non-WS-level players for a good part of the year.
The outlier sinker isn't why Cabrera was good. Its because his release is glitched. I don't see many people talking about how OP Walter Johnson, Zack Britton, Gregory Soto and Alex Reyes are, and they all have outlier sinkers
That rings true. Thing is on top of you before you can react.
That being said, sinkers are too powerful overall -- combine with glitched release, and UGH.
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I don't disagree one bit about Cabrera's release, but I also don't think all outliers are the same. Nolan's outlier seems way more overpowering than Degrom's...and really anyone's. Could just be me though.
I also am not fully convinced the PCI is the biggest problem. 125 attributes + clutch + quirks =lots of craziness.
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@the_dragon1912 said in PCI overhaul:
@texaskid789_xbl said in PCI overhaul:
About K's and foul balls, I'd be fine with fewer fouls if they banned the outlier perk. THAT is the real thing that's ruining the game.
I think outlier is fine, as long as they don't give it to any random players. Degrom deserves it, but why would they give it to Justin Verlander.
Didn't watch Verlander when he was with Detroit huh? No, he didn't throw 102 every pitch. With how it currently works works the only 3 pitchers that actually deserve outlier are Degrom, Nolan Ryan, and Chapman. But saying they randomly gave it to Verlander of all people is a bit strange
Come on brotha, you know Clase deserves it! You should know that being a tigers fan
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@bloopnablast_34_psn said in PCI overhaul:
@the_dragon1912 said in PCI overhaul:
@texaskid789_xbl said in PCI overhaul:
About K's and foul balls, I'd be fine with fewer fouls if they banned the outlier perk. THAT is the real thing that's ruining the game.
I think outlier is fine, as long as they don't give it to any random players. Degrom deserves it, but why would they give it to Justin Verlander.
Didn't watch Verlander when he was with Detroit huh? No, he didn't throw 102 every pitch. With how it currently works works the only 3 pitchers that actually deserve outlier are Degrom, Nolan Ryan, and Chapman. But saying they randomly gave it to Verlander of all people is a bit strange
Come on brotha, you know Clase deserves it! You should know that being a tigers fan
I agree, I was just naming the diamond cards. Clase and Jordan Hicks deserve it too for sure
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@the_dragon1912 said in PCI overhaul:
@bloopnablast_34_psn said in PCI overhaul:
@the_dragon1912 said in PCI overhaul:
@texaskid789_xbl said in PCI overhaul:
About K's and foul balls, I'd be fine with fewer fouls if they banned the outlier perk. THAT is the real thing that's ruining the game.
I think outlier is fine, as long as they don't give it to any random players. Degrom deserves it, but why would they give it to Justin Verlander.
Didn't watch Verlander when he was with Detroit huh? No, he didn't throw 102 every pitch. With how it currently works works the only 3 pitchers that actually deserve outlier are Degrom, Nolan Ryan, and Chapman. But saying they randomly gave it to Verlander of all people is a bit strange
Come on brotha, you know Clase deserves it! You should know that being a tigers fan
I agree, I was just naming the diamond cards. Clase and Jordan Hicks deserve it too for sure
Feller?
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@poksey_mlbts said in PCI overhaul:
@the_dragon1912 said in PCI overhaul:
@bloopnablast_34_psn said in PCI overhaul:
@the_dragon1912 said in PCI overhaul:
@texaskid789_xbl said in PCI overhaul:
About K's and foul balls, I'd be fine with fewer fouls if they banned the outlier perk. THAT is the real thing that's ruining the game.
I think outlier is fine, as long as they don't give it to any random players. Degrom deserves it, but why would they give it to Justin Verlander.
Didn't watch Verlander when he was with Detroit huh? No, he didn't throw 102 every pitch. With how it currently works works the only 3 pitchers that actually deserve outlier are Degrom, Nolan Ryan, and Chapman. But saying they randomly gave it to Verlander of all people is a bit strange
Come on brotha, you know Clase deserves it! You should know that being a tigers fan
I agree, I was just naming the diamond cards. Clase and Jordan Hicks deserve it too for sure
Feller?
I mean its really hard to say with the guys that played pre-radar gun. Feller, Grove, and Walter are more or less based on people saying they threw that hard
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Don't worry, guys. I'm sure SDS is hard at work making dramatic changes to the most important part of their game's functionality, because that's totally something developers do after achieving one of their best sales years ever. An overhaul could be a risky strategy, but I'm sure the community will be positive and openminded about any major change as they always are. lol
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They should keep it in the game, just not make it visible. Also, remove button hitting and this game would be nice. Offline modes use what ever you want.
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@texaskid789_xbl said in PCI overhaul:
About K's and foul balls, I'd be fine with fewer fouls if they banned the outlier perk. THAT is the real thing that's ruining the game.
I think outlier is fine, as long as they don't give it to any random players. Degrom deserves it, but why would they give it to Justin Verlander.
Verlander absolutely deserves outlier. What made him so good was how he ramped up in the later innings. He would start out in the mid to upper 90's, and by inning 7 he was throwing over 100.
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@the_dragon1912 said in PCI overhaul:
@poksey_mlbts said in PCI overhaul:
@the_dragon1912 said in PCI overhaul:
@bloopnablast_34_psn said in PCI overhaul:
@the_dragon1912 said in PCI overhaul:
@texaskid789_xbl said in PCI overhaul:
About K's and foul balls, I'd be fine with fewer fouls if they banned the outlier perk. THAT is the real thing that's ruining the game.
I think outlier is fine, as long as they don't give it to any random players. Degrom deserves it, but why would they give it to Justin Verlander.
Didn't watch Verlander when he was with Detroit huh? No, he didn't throw 102 every pitch. With how it currently works works the only 3 pitchers that actually deserve outlier are Degrom, Nolan Ryan, and Chapman. But saying they randomly gave it to Verlander of all people is a bit strange
Come on brotha, you know Clase deserves it! You should know that being a tigers fan
I agree, I was just naming the diamond cards. Clase and Jordan Hicks deserve it too for sure
Feller?
I mean its really hard to say with the guys that played pre-radar gun. Feller, Grove, and Walter are more or less based on people saying they threw that hard
While I agree on the Big Train and Lefty, Feller at least had some tests done on his velocity. I know Johnson did as well, but it wasnt exactly accurate using modern techniques. Feller at minimum threw 98+ mph given the testing at the time, although most believe it was over 100. That's why I think he deserves to be categorized differently than the other 2 mentioned, and alongside the other known fireballers.
I would also put Dibble and Nen in the outlier category. 2 guys that would routinely get up over 100.
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@suntlacrimae50_psn said in PCI overhaul:
Also, giving a random prospect an outlier sinker nearly ruined the game for non-WS-level players for a good part of the year.
This is a good point. I got so sick of facing Cabrera I definitely slowed down my play this year. Thankfully with the new TA program you’re stating to see more variety. I’m still not sure why every pitcher needs to throw 102 though? The meta this year is bizarre.
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@the_dragon1912 said in PCI overhaul:
@suntlacrimae50_psn said in PCI overhaul:
Also, giving a random prospect an outlier sinker nearly ruined the game for non-WS-level players for a good part of the year.
The outlier sinker isn't why Cabrera was good. Its because his release is glitched. I don't see many people talking about how OP Walter Johnson, Zack Britton, Gregory Soto and Alex Reyes are, and they all have outlier sinkers
I quit playing for a solid month when Cabrera came out. It was ridiculous!
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@washednd_psn said in PCI overhaul:
They need to let people just strike out and miss the dang ball.
They do, I strike out probably a 10 or more times a game.
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in PCI overhaul:
I truly think the pci system needs an overhaul. Wayyyy too many games decided by non pci hits/homeruns and that just shouldn't happen. The pci absolutely needs to represent the barrel and there shouldn't be a outer pci for vision either. Playing good players on HOF is still a foul ball fest and it just gets real frustrating with the undeserved hits
Ya lets make scoring even harder. Maybe we can have 1-0 games go 15 innings?
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I think the problem is with how hitting works in this game. Outlier probably had to be invented to accommodate pitchers (like most of the ones mentioned) that threw harder than the game was designed to allow.
They had to do something to make fastballs actually relevant in a baseball game because, if you remember, there was a time when they were not.
I keep hoping SDS will remember this is a video game and not real life, and make it about fun gameplay and not semi-accurate to MLB stats, but I might be waiting a long time for that.
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i thought they just made the PCI more sensitive in the last update, or reactive....its kinda shitty cause i went from getting better to starting over. way to change at the end of the year.
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@vipersneak_mlbts said in PCI overhaul:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in PCI overhaul:
I truly think the pci system needs an overhaul. Wayyyy too many games decided by non pci hits/homeruns and that just shouldn't happen. The pci absolutely needs to represent the barrel and there shouldn't be a outer pci for vision either. Playing good players on HOF is still a foul ball fest and it just gets real frustrating with the undeserved hits
Ya lets make scoring even harder. Maybe we can have 1-0 games go 15 innings?
@vipersneak_mlbts said in PCI overhaul:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in PCI overhaul:
I truly think the pci system needs an overhaul. Wayyyy too many games decided by non pci hits/homeruns and that just shouldn't happen. The pci absolutely needs to represent the barrel and there shouldn't be a outer pci for vision either. Playing good players on HOF is still a foul ball fest and it just gets real frustrating with the undeserved hits
Ya lets make scoring even harder. Maybe we can have 1-0 games go 15 innings?
It’s already way too easy to score. I don’t know what you’re talking about
