Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games
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@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymoreThat's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.
It’s not that much more than we think, there’s probably a few more but it’s probably less than 50 guys if I had to guess
You’re naive, but it’s ok to be when you’re young; I truly believed Big Mac in 98 when he said he only took andro…
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@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymoreThat's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.
It’s not that much more than we think, there’s probably a few more but it’s probably less than 50 guys if I had to guess
You're young and probably still a little naive Kieran. Nothing wrong with that of course, but you probably haven't had the life experience yet where you learn that people will do MANY things to secure a pay check or excel in a very strong competitive environment.
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@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymoreThat's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.
This is true. BTW I strongly recommend everyone here to watch the documentary "Juiced" on Netflix. Not only does it explain how they are doing it but it's hysterical as well.
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@hoboadam_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
As an Astros fan, I'm loving some of the poetic justice here. He ran his mouth quite a bit.
And while we're on irony, Marte was traded for as Oakland knew they were going to have a problem. And oh yeah, Marte knows all about this topic...
NO! Says MLB. Astros only. They are gonna carry the weight of anything cheating related. Documents will remain sealed and all other speculation swept under the rug, especially when it comes to the biggest market teams that have been around for over a hundred years. It hurts the game.
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@ministro787_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymoreThat's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.
This is true. BTW I strongly recommend everyone here to watch the documentary "Juiced" on Netflix. Not only does it explain how they are doing it but it's hysterical as well.
Isn't it called Screwball? But yeah, great documentary that was for sure and sheds a light on how big the issue really is.
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@hoboadam_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
As an Astros fan, I'm loving some of the poetic justice here. He ran his mouth quite a bit.
And while we're on irony, Marte was traded for as Oakland knew they were going to have a problem. And oh yeah, Marte knows all about this topic...
We looking at em like preach- Drake
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@yankblan_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymoreThat's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.
It’s not that much more than we think, there’s probably a few more but it’s probably less than 50 guys if I had to guess
You’re naive, but it’s ok to be when you’re young; I truly believed Big Mac in 98 when he said he only took andro…
Fly the Cardinal avatar like your alter-ego..Doc. No Brewers fan would have compassion for what McGuire did while a Cardinal. Only Cardinal fans would. Ya just keep proving you're all over the place with an entire stable of identities.
And, likely, took you no little bit of time and effort to roll 'em all out. A for effort. Pretty cool actually. Gives me a new pastime "Where's Doc". Take off on Where's Waldo BTW.
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@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@ministro787_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymoreThat's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.
This is true. BTW I strongly recommend everyone here to watch the documentary "Juiced" on Netflix. Not only does it explain how they are doing it but it's hysterical as well.
Isn't it called Screwball? But yeah, great documentary that was for sure and sheds a light on how big the issue really is.
Yes! My bad, screwball is the name of the documentary on Netflix. One of the best real life/dark comedy documentaries ever made!
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This just gave my Jays an even better shot at making the playoffs.
BTW, I secured tickets in Toronto when they host the A’s in September. 2 years without any games in Toronto. I’m going to the Friday night and Saturday afternoon games. Can’t wait!!!
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@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
Tested positive for Nandrolone. Let's play an over/under game here. Out of all the current big league players, 30% is juicing. I'm saying over.
Over times a million
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@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymore
The league has absolutely 0 incentive to actually catch players using steroids.
Agents have contacts in the league office and youre naive if you don’t believe they hand over a list to those agents of all the players subject to a test. Tests can be cheated.
I have a friend who’s brother played in the nfl and said he knows zero guys not on steroids in the nfl.
I play college baseball and can confirm the vast majority of guys in college are juicing -
I'm skeptical about this claim... With testing now you need designer PEDs to avoid detection. You can't just take run of the mill stimulants or steroids anymore. It's probably confined to a select group who are well connected. I especially doubt they advertise they do it.
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@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@yankblan_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
True, the agencies are always playing catch up
Exactly. Always have been always will be.
Absolutely. I'll take the "over"...
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@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymoreThat's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.
It’s not that much more than we think, there’s probably a few more but it’s probably less than 50 guys if I had to guess
You're young and probably still a little naive Kieran. Nothing wrong with that of course, but you probably haven't had the life experience yet where you learn that people will do MANY things to secure a pay check or excel in a very strong competitive environment.
lol call me young because you don't have an actual argument. We're both adults boss
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@duiaintez_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
I'm skeptical about this claim... With testing now you need designer PEDs to avoid detection. You can't just take run of the mill stimulants or steroids anymore. It's probably confined to a select group who are well connected. I especially doubt they advertise they do it.
Yeah for real, the risk of getting caught leads me to believe it's a lot less than commonplace
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@yankblan_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymoreThat's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.
It’s not that much more than we think, there’s probably a few more but it’s probably less than 50 guys if I had to guess
You’re naive, but it’s ok to be when you’re young; I truly believed Big Mac in 98 when he said he only took andro…
Next you're gonna say the Hulkster did more than pray and take his vitamins!
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I think it is safe to say there will never be as widespread use as during the 80s and 90s.
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@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@raesone_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
@kdclemson_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
No way it’s more than 30%, I’d bet it’s closer to 30 than 30%. How many suspensions have there been? Less than half a dozen this year?
5% or less right now imo, most of the guys who did it were 90s and early 00s and don’t play anymoreThat's because there are doctors out there who earn a killing to mask the use of PEDs. It's a cat and mouse game, always has been. All that money will buy the best doctors and top tier knowledge. I honestly believe it's much much bigger than we think. Not just in MLB, also in the NFL for example.
It’s not that much more than we think, there’s probably a few more but it’s probably less than 50 guys if I had to guess
You're young and probably still a little naive Kieran. Nothing wrong with that of course, but you probably haven't had the life experience yet where you learn that people will do MANY things to secure a pay check or excel in a very strong competitive environment.
lol call me young because you don't have an actual argument. We're both adults boss
See, your sensitive reaction shows your immaturity. It's an unnecessary response because I did make an argument, more than 1 actually.
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@hikes83_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
This just gave my Jays an even better shot at making the playoffs.
BTW, I secured tickets in Toronto when they host the A’s in September. 2 years without any games in Toronto. I’m going to the Friday night and Saturday afternoon games. Can’t wait!!!
Have fun man!
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@duiaintez_psn said in Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games:
I'm skeptical about this claim... With testing now you need designer PEDs to avoid detection. You can't just take run of the mill stimulants or steroids anymore. It's probably confined to a select group who are well connected. I especially doubt they advertise they do it.
The PEDs themselves did not change, they still work the same. However, doctors have found ways to mask it and pass tests by using other supplements that aren't illegal at the same time. The main goal is to make the samples turn out "normal". Just take a look at Lance Armstrong for example. There is no stricter testing than in the world of cycling, and he fooled the system and everyone in it for many many years. And the same sentiment lives in that sport; it's not a question of who's on PEDs but who eventually gets caught.
