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Kelenic went 3-4 with a HR and 2 doubles in his second game. You know where he is now?
It was what it is.
The real way to prepare for an RS game is get a bowl of popcorn, some twizzlers (I prefer legal edibles), some soda (I prefer Jack and diet) leave your controller behind..doesn't play much a part. Start your match and just watch the game unfold. You'll just witness the coolest (often unusual) but typically misfit and unpredictable animation play out you've ever witnessed.
Do that 10 times and you'll have a pretty good buzz and a 5-5 record.
I suppose DDA effects every online sports game to a certain degree. But too often, in RS, it's just blatantly obvious.
We understand the marketing desire to create parity in online matches. You can't let the less talented look terrible, or the more talented look great all the time. The game developers gotta put adjustments in place to keep parity. It's been going on in the EA games for years.
Every year in MUT the community flocks to Youtube to share "Secrets" on how to glitch/gimmick in order to spaz out the AI. How to motion, how to sub, where to shift and shade. Because of the inherent glitches that people just figure out in order to nerf their plays it's hard to tell what the AI DDA is doing and where the AI exploitation points are. The game has got so many moving pieces it's not always easy to tell.
Not so in The Show. There isn't a whole lot of moving pieces. You pitch, you swing. So when playing RS (all of DD for that matter) and it's time for HAL to implement some DDA to create parity..it's pretty hard to hide. Just gigantic departures from reality and spun animation that doesn't begin to fit controller input.
Undoubtedly it's much more difficult for the Developers of this game to manipulate outcomes. Just can't hide it. And that's too bad..for the developers and the customers that experience it all the time.
So I'm not saying The Show's DDA is any worse than EA products, it's just so much easier for FUT and MUT to obscure it. It's always going to be obvious (I suppose) in DD which makes it so much more frustrating.
Played an RS game last night that was just a microcosm of all that destroys the interest in playing online. A 10 inning snoozer that culminated in my opponent hitting a 2-run homer (after striking out 18 times and having 2 total hits) in the top of the 10th. Then the AI making it "exciting" by letting me get a run and then throwing in some blatantly dumb animation to shut me down.
I'm to the point I'm afraid to play RS. I got a decent record, I've played a lot of hours and believe I'm average to decent at the game.
But, the game doesn't reflect skill. It reflects whatever outcome the AI dictates. I think most of us have some pride in our records. That's where the frustration and anxiety comes in. I don't mind losing to my opponent..But I absolutely HATE losing to the AI and my opponent getting credit for it
I don't give a fruck about any of the surplus of 99 Diamond's that are just dished out like candy and have about the same significance as dirt. I care about a game that can, at least, aspire to be immersive. A game that doesn't make its customers more frustrated than appreciative.
This is the only game I have ever played that just, literally, drives me to fury at times.
But, again, when you played one like I did last night where it's 10 innings (probably 30+ minutes) just down the $hitter wrapped in a fiasco of not just irrelevant animation (doesn't match up with anything coming out of my controller) but ignorant animation that depicts nothing I've ever seen in an MLB game. And I've watched a whole lot of baseball in my life.
I got nothing else. But this meandering stream of consciousness felt good to share.
I'm not sure that's possible in a fit of rage unless you have a hammer in your hand. Which would be a lil freaky I must say.
I've thrown PS5 controller at the wall from across the room to kill a big spider I thought I saw crawling down. Realized it was just a shadow but there were edibles involved.
The point of the story is, however, it's not as easy as you think to just break the next-gen controllers.
And sub-point, this game ain't worth stubbing a toe for. Only the newbies would get so frustrated. Those that have played a couple weeks already realize the fakery frustration points are rampant and you just gotta chuckle and say softly "wtf, another manipulated outcome by HAL".
@chaos-xx-theory_psn said in Another trash game...:
@scottd_3ds_psn said in Another trash game...: Just played a guy whose 8-24, I got 8 hits 0 runs off Degrom, and a perfect game through 8, and of course, after a hit batter (1-2 count) a couple bunts, a fake throw, another perfect bunt with infield in, he wins. What a cheesy trash game this is. Also 99 Walker and 99 Soriano are a combined 6 for 58, 0 home runs. Just trash. And yet you'll play again.
@scottd_3ds_psn said in Another trash game...:
Just played a guy whose 8-24, I got 8 hits 0 runs off Degrom, and a perfect game through 8, and of course, after a hit batter (1-2 count) a couple bunts, a fake throw, another perfect bunt with infield in, he wins. What a cheesy trash game this is. Also 99 Walker and 99 Soriano are a combined 6 for 58, 0 home runs. Just trash.
And yet you'll play again.
He might.
But many of us do not. Everyone has a threshold where it's, like, this is the final waste of an hour of my time on a game I put my best in, that rewards me with randomly generated animation.
We all have our tipping point.
You'll be playing a Showdown or whatever, and you just forget what stuff your supposed to be working on to complete the match tasks? Just swinging at pitches and throwin' the ball around with no concept of how many tasks you knocked out and what's left.
Edibles, they make the game a different experience.
@therainmaker29_xbl said in I owe the show an apology:
Been ranting for a week how bad online lag was. I literally couldn’t even react to a pitch. It was miserable. Frames would skip as the batter swung or the pitch came in. Well… turns out my TV was not on a game mode. Let that be a lesson to you kids. It’s night and day different now. Immediately went deep twice in the first inning turning that on.
Nice apology. One huge thing..TV mode doesn't account for most of the "mysteries" in this game. Lag doesn't either. Once in awhile it would be nice to get this post.
THE SHOW OWES THEIR CUSTOMERS AN APOLOGY - we've been negligent and somewhat deceitful with our product at times. Sometimes we don't know when to turn off the smoke and mirrors and manipulation. But, when we finally do..it will be the best most immersive game you've ever played.
I use him. 2-0 in RS. Pretty dominant.
@go4stros25_psn said in SDS's Cheap Ways To Simulate Difficulty Are Sickening:
I've noticed on higher difficulties the cpu will start pitching like online players. All the sudden pitchers are throwing high sinkers and a ton of back foot breaking balls. Its like they programed the cpu to replicate top online players, and embraced the cheese. Also you forgot the biggest bullshitt about playing the cpu. When your pitcher is cruising and all the sudden the 8 hole hitter will lay off everything and take pitches right in the black that will be called balls, and then either get a 12 pitch walk or a single that will destroy your pitchers confidence. The umpires calling pitches that don't even touch the zone strikes for the cpu, while you can have a pitch 95% in the zone, in the same quadrant called a ball.
I've noticed on higher difficulties the cpu will start pitching like online players. All the sudden pitchers are throwing high sinkers and a ton of back foot breaking balls. Its like they programed the cpu to replicate top online players, and embraced the cheese.
Also you forgot the biggest bullshitt about playing the cpu. When your pitcher is cruising and all the sudden the 8 hole hitter will lay off everything and take pitches right in the black that will be called balls, and then either get a 12 pitch walk or a single that will destroy your pitchers confidence.
The umpires calling pitches that don't even touch the zone strikes for the cpu, while you can have a pitch 95% in the zone, in the same quadrant called a ball.
You know when the computer batter suddenly starts fouling off everything..that they struck out on before..it's rally time!
It's bad. One of my guys walk, and I look up and have "SUCCESS". I have no clue what that task was. But I had success.
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Another trash game...:
@ironeyes_cody_psn said in Another trash game...: @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Another trash game...: @scottd_3ds_psn said in Another trash game...: Just played a guy whose 8-24, I got 8 hits 0 runs off Degrom, and a perfect game through 8, and of course, after a hit batter (1-2 count) a couple bunts, a fake throw, another perfect bunt with infield in, he wins. What a cheesy trash game this is. Also 99 Walker and 99 Soriano are a combined 6 for 58, 0 home runs. Just trash. I just played a guy in the 500's. He struck out 15 times. I was using all horrible silver lineup doing a daily. My balls inside the PCI were doing nothing, couldn't even get hits. He hits 2 balls out of the zone in 9th to walk off. It is so bad you just have to laugh it off. Let's see that box score. That would put an exclamation point on the fact this game is just Beaucoup Dien Cai Dau..for a better term. Not sure how to do that but it was the game on 8/8 (today) at 2:05. Daily was silver OF runs so everyone in lineup was a silver OF except for Sanchez. Couldn't find one with C secondary.
@ironeyes_cody_psn said in Another trash game...:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Another trash game...: @scottd_3ds_psn said in Another trash game...: Just played a guy whose 8-24, I got 8 hits 0 runs off Degrom, and a perfect game through 8, and of course, after a hit batter (1-2 count) a couple bunts, a fake throw, another perfect bunt with infield in, he wins. What a cheesy trash game this is. Also 99 Walker and 99 Soriano are a combined 6 for 58, 0 home runs. Just trash. I just played a guy in the 500's. He struck out 15 times. I was using all horrible silver lineup doing a daily. My balls inside the PCI were doing nothing, couldn't even get hits. He hits 2 balls out of the zone in 9th to walk off. It is so bad you just have to laugh it off. Let's see that box score. That would put an exclamation point on the fact this game is just Beaucoup Dien Cai Dau..for a better term.
@scottd_3ds_psn said in Another trash game...: Just played a guy whose 8-24, I got 8 hits 0 runs off Degrom, and a perfect game through 8, and of course, after a hit batter (1-2 count) a couple bunts, a fake throw, another perfect bunt with infield in, he wins. What a cheesy trash game this is. Also 99 Walker and 99 Soriano are a combined 6 for 58, 0 home runs. Just trash. I just played a guy in the 500's. He struck out 15 times. I was using all horrible silver lineup doing a daily. My balls inside the PCI were doing nothing, couldn't even get hits. He hits 2 balls out of the zone in 9th to walk off. It is so bad you just have to laugh it off.
I just played a guy in the 500's. He struck out 15 times. I was using all horrible silver lineup doing a daily. My balls inside the PCI were doing nothing, couldn't even get hits. He hits 2 balls out of the zone in 9th to walk off. It is so bad you just have to laugh it off.
Let's see that box score. That would put an exclamation point on the fact this game is just Beaucoup Dien Cai Dau..for a better term.
Not sure how to do that but it was the game on 8/8 (today) at 2:05. Daily was silver OF runs so everyone in lineup was a silver OF except for Sanchez. Couldn't find one with C secondary.
Saw the game. Just weird you or your opponent didn't show as having a record for 2021.
I mean really..let's see that box score. You don't even seem to have an online record for 2021. You did play an opponent, who also doesn't have an online record that struck out 15 times.
Perhaps I'm reading your record wrong?
@bloopnablast_34_psn said in How is this Possible?:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in How is this Possible?: @therainmaker29_xbl said in How is this Possible?: Don’t overthink it. This is a bad game. The servers are complete trash. You can make all the changes you want on your end, it isn’t gonna matter. With the exception of a few maybe on the coasts. Servers/connections in this game are really bad and have been for some time. I have wired fiber. I rarely disconnect but I can play a 5 hour session and have an hour's worth of wtf moments. I think I am the king of weak hits against me and non-pci hr's. I think it was Friday night I had 4 non-pci hr's against me in 2 games. Warping pitch speeds are more prevalent now too. In my experience it gets worse. A lot of the people that deal with this stuff move on to Madden which means the majority of the people left are the ones that don't see this stuff very much. That means more issues for the players that are already seeing them. Ball has been hand to glove instantly for me on HOF. Yet, certain people can turn on 102 legend like it is slow pitch softball. The advantage certain people have is ridiculous and won't be fixed without server/match making adjustments. Not gonna lie but I’d take less content and legends for some dedicated servers. Or if they don’t do that, atleast bring back the ping indicator they used to have years ago.. I had crappy internet then but games played more consistently I thought. I’d just back out of the pregame lobby if someone had a red ping. That would help some
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in How is this Possible?:
@therainmaker29_xbl said in How is this Possible?: Don’t overthink it. This is a bad game. The servers are complete trash. You can make all the changes you want on your end, it isn’t gonna matter. With the exception of a few maybe on the coasts. Servers/connections in this game are really bad and have been for some time. I have wired fiber. I rarely disconnect but I can play a 5 hour session and have an hour's worth of wtf moments. I think I am the king of weak hits against me and non-pci hr's. I think it was Friday night I had 4 non-pci hr's against me in 2 games. Warping pitch speeds are more prevalent now too. In my experience it gets worse. A lot of the people that deal with this stuff move on to Madden which means the majority of the people left are the ones that don't see this stuff very much. That means more issues for the players that are already seeing them. Ball has been hand to glove instantly for me on HOF. Yet, certain people can turn on 102 legend like it is slow pitch softball. The advantage certain people have is ridiculous and won't be fixed without server/match making adjustments.
@therainmaker29_xbl said in How is this Possible?:
Don’t overthink it. This is a bad game. The servers are complete trash. You can make all the changes you want on your end, it isn’t gonna matter. With the exception of a few maybe on the coasts.
Servers/connections in this game are really bad and have been for some time. I have wired fiber. I rarely disconnect but I can play a 5 hour session and have an hour's worth of wtf moments. I think I am the king of weak hits against me and non-pci hr's. I think it was Friday night I had 4 non-pci hr's against me in 2 games. Warping pitch speeds are more prevalent now too.
In my experience it gets worse. A lot of the people that deal with this stuff move on to Madden which means the majority of the people left are the ones that don't see this stuff very much. That means more issues for the players that are already seeing them.
Ball has been hand to glove instantly for me on HOF. Yet, certain people can turn on 102 legend like it is slow pitch softball. The advantage certain people have is ridiculous and won't be fixed without server/match making adjustments.
Not gonna lie but I’d take less content and legends for some dedicated servers. Or if they don’t do that, atleast bring back the ping indicator they used to have years ago.. I had crappy internet then but games played more consistently I thought. I’d just back out of the pregame lobby if someone had a red ping. That would help some
We all would. But, content is cheap...really-really-really cheap..in more ways than one.
A stable and balanced network infrastructure...the opposite of really-really-really cheap. As long as people keep buying a company is not going to overhaul their infrastructure.
@dbub_psn said in Did I Face A Pro?:
So I'm a noob that mostly plays offline. Online I am 4-0 in ranked seasons so far and I had won my first Event game. And then in my 2nd Event game....The guy hit 4 homers in a row off my Superfractored DeGrom and I think 6 homers in the first 9 batters. (before I quit) Most of his guys had over .500 averages and 20 or so HR each for his online stats. It was quite the reality check! I think his username had ketodiet or something in it.
So I'm a noob that mostly plays offline.
Online I am 4-0 in ranked seasons so far and I had won my first Event game.
And then in my 2nd Event game....The guy hit 4 homers in a row off my Superfractored DeGrom and I think 6 homers in the first 9 batters. (before I quit)
Most of his guys had over .500 averages and 20 or so HR each for his online stats.
It was quite the reality check! I think his username had ketodiet or something in it.
The Game Engine randomly super-nerfs and super-buffs. I've been on both ends. The super-buffing (when you're receiving) you can swing anywhere in the zone and get the "echoing crack" sound-bit every time you hit a ball.
You realize it's not going to last long because the majority of opponents recognize it for what it is and they quit. And, I never blame them. Most I've ever got was 4 homerooms in a couple innings before opponent bails.
Typically, it's after that first home-run they know, themselves, was well pitched by a 99 Diamond pitcher and defied all logic.
The super-nerfing....just hang around and read some of the more "raging" threads. You'll find out all you need to know about AI nerfing in this game.
Undoubtedly the funniest title for a post I've ever seen on this forum. It's like a parody. or sarcasm even. if it's serious..you'll never figure out hitting in this Game. It's like an amoeba constantly changing shape and functionality. For sure, don't practice..because you'll begin to believe something works and it really doesn't.
@beardowngoblue said in Suggestions to cut down the frustration experienced in Moments:
Difficulty - I don't doubt that the listed difficulty is accurate in terms of PCI size and pitch speed, but the outcomes after the swing are pretty clearly less rewarding to the hitter than in other modes. Some clarity on this would be nice.
Good point. It's as if they blow-up the PCI size to reflect rookie or whatever, but still have it in HoF mode relative to outcomes. Don't know that we'll ever get clarity on this though.
You've got great points, but most of what you mentioned is the "smoke and mirrors" intentionally (not accidentally) coded into this game to make it "exciting" while also dictating outcomes and the resulting animation they queue up to paint on your screen to support the outcome without a lot of emphasis on controller input.
I just don't see them fixing an intended design.
@johnutah312_xbl said in With Madden coming out Thursday (EA Play) - Is there a big drop off in Diamond Dynasty?:
Madden will suck online it always does.
What sports game doesn't suck online most of the time? FIFA can be a disaster, and it's been said by a forum full of ppl in here how erratic this game is.