Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread
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They better not take out Analog Stride hitting, cause I don't want to hit like I'm playing duck hunt target shooting.
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@sean_87__psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@GradektheBard
As far as hitting types they didn't specifically say that all types would not be allowed but did touch on fact that stick use would reign supreme.
That’s the part that I’m uncertain on. The way they worded it makes me think that if you are good enough at placing pci on ball, you will be able to hit top mlb pitchers with the worst mlb hitters. I hope that’s not the case. Seeing people with .400 plus batting averages with average mlb players wouldn’t exactly represent authenticity.
I see what you are saying, but if i match up with someone who can place a pci on a pitch with somebody with 36 vision bronze and the smack it?Then kudo's to them.
In the end that bronze is still a pro baseball player. User should not be punished for good input. There is nothing to suggest that this will happen with every user but you cannot punish those that are good enough to do it is all i am saying.
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@sean_87__psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@GradektheBard
As far as hitting types they didn't specifically say that all types would not be allowed but did touch on fact that stick use would reign supreme.
That’s the part that I’m uncertain on. The way they worded it makes me think that if you are good enough at placing pci on ball, you will be able to hit top mlb pitchers with the worst mlb hitters. I hope that’s not the case. Seeing people with .400 plus batting averages with average mlb players wouldn’t exactly represent authenticity.
I see what you are saying, but if i match up with someone who can place a pci on a pitch with somebody with 36 vision bronze and the smack it?Then kudo's to them.
In the end that bronze is still a pro baseball player. User should not be punished for good input. There is nothing to suggest that this will happen with every user but you cannot punish those that are good enough to do it is all i am saying.
Yeah, but in your scenario if you could compete at a high level with bronze card it literally defeats the entire purpose of diamond dynasty. Why grind TA or the all timers program for Soto or Ruth when you get the same result from Kyle Schwarber? I want as little RNG as possible, but at the same time Contact, Power, and Vision, Speed, Fielding, H/9, K/9, BB/9, Stamina, and Control need to have a sizable impact on a card's performance. Otherwise you just have a batting practice simulator
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Exactly. If you can compete with common and bronze against diamonds than that ain’t right.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@sean_87__psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@GradektheBard
As far as hitting types they didn't specifically say that all types would not be allowed but did touch on fact that stick use would reign supreme.
That’s the part that I’m uncertain on. The way they worded it makes me think that if you are good enough at placing pci on ball, you will be able to hit top mlb pitchers with the worst mlb hitters. I hope that’s not the case. Seeing people with .400 plus batting averages with average mlb players wouldn’t exactly represent authenticity.
I see what you are saying, but if i match up with someone who can place a pci on a pitch with somebody with 36 vision bronze and the smack it?Then kudo's to them.
In the end that bronze is still a pro baseball player. User should not be punished for good input. There is nothing to suggest that this will happen with every user but you cannot punish those that are good enough to do it is all i am saying.
Yeah, but in your scenario if you could compete at a high level with bronze card it literally defeats the entire purpose of diamond dynasty. Why grind TA or the all timers program for Soto or Ruth when you get the same result from Kyle Schwarber? I want as little RNG as possible, but at the same time Contact, Power, and Vision, Speed, Fielding, H/9, K/9, BB/9, Stamina, and Control need to have a sizable impact on a card's performance. Otherwise you just have a batting practice simulator
Does not defeat purpose of DD not for said user in fact opens up more possiblities. Maybe it saves him stubs b/c he is good enough to not have to buy diamonds at first to build team?
What if said user was good enough to play with Shwarber and is able to make to WS and earn Diamond reward. How is that not fair? If everybody could do it then yeah something is wrong and i would scream rng with you.
But fact is there are only a handful of people that could make it to WS in that fashion. And b/c it is so rare rng is not main issue in MP.
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@sean_87__psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
Exactly. If you can compete with common and bronze against diamonds than that ain’t right.
See this is a misconception among community. It's not about the card and what it's overall is? It's how you use it.
Just cuz you have a diamond does not make it a better player. It just means attributes are better you still have to use them right.
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Sure, a handful of people could make it to world series with those kinds of cards. That isn't the issue at hand. If i match up with a player of equal skill to mine. For argument sake say we have even teams and in a ten game series, we each win 5 games. Now, say we play an 11th game and my opponent uses the typical BR silver team and I have a god squad that I worked my [censored] off for for months. Who should win that game? DD is much more than simply making it to world series. Yes world series should be a goal, but without building your team up first there is literally no sense of playing this game
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@sean_87__psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
Exactly. If you can compete with common and bronze against diamonds than that ain’t right.
See this is a misconception among community. It's not about the card and what it's overall is? It's how you use it.
Just cuz you have a diamond does not make it a better player. It just means attributes are better you still have to use them right.
So to said user every card is the same? I would prefer my success at the plate have to do with the card as well as my input. Input shouldn’t be sole factor for outcome because if it is, no card is different from the next to each user.
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@sean_87__psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@sean_87__psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
Exactly. If you can compete with common and bronze against diamonds than that ain’t right.
See this is a misconception among community. It's not about the card and what it's overall is? It's how you use it.
Just cuz you have a diamond does not make it a better player. It just means attributes are better you still have to use them right.
So to said user every card is the same? I would prefer my success at the plate have to do with the card as well as my input. Input shouldn’t be sole factor for outcome because if it is, no card is different from the next to each user.
No not what i am saying. Look nobody can walk up to plate and bat perfect with any bronze or any silver everytime.
What i said is that it is not out of the realm of possibility that an advanced user could do it easier than majority of players. Does not mean he/she does it everytime.
So no not all cards are the same but it does increase the odds of said user to be even more successful with a card with better attributes.
Which is exactly the point to DD to build a better team as cheap as possible.
And if one or two people out of a 100 can do it this way then noway is rng a factor they are just flat out better period.
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I get what you saying, I just think it’s weird to bat .400 with a player that hits .250 in person. Not really important to get the better cards if you can perform with lesser ones. I’m too old I guess, I like games a little more grounded to reality.
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@sean_87__psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
I get what you saying, I just think it’s weird to bat .400 with a player that hits .250 in person. Not really important to get the better cards if you can perform with lesser ones. I’m too old I guess, I like games a little more grounded to reality.
i am old also so i get ya
. But that person who is batting .400 the next quetion is,How good is the guy pitching to him? If your leaving meatballs in zone then that changes from 2 out of 100 to maybe 50 out of 100.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
Sure, a handful of people could make it to world series with those kinds of cards. That isn't the issue at hand. If i match up with a player of equal skill to mine. For argument sake say we have even teams and in a ten game series, we each win 5 games. Now, say we play an 11th game and my opponent uses the typical BR silver team and I have a god squad that I worked my [censored] off for for months. Who should win that game? DD is much more than simply making it to world series. Yes world series should be a goal, but without building your team up first there is literally no sense of playing this game
Simple! Whoever plays the best! Just cuz you have god squad does not mean automatic victory. You still have to Pitch,Bat,Field and Baserun at a good level.
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@laftho_xbl said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
How can I get those Twitch packs once the game come out?
They are coming back. Twitch updated their Drops system and we are working through getting it updated.
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You gotta believe that stats still matter. Getting the best cards is kind of their whole business plan at this point.
If a player is that much better than me (which is not hard) I expect that they could easily beat my best squad with a team of all bronze. It was true in the past and it will be true in the future.
I assume that the PAR of a 99 control pitcher on their primary will be much smaller than that for a pitcher with 60 control.
I assume a perfect perfect hit with Babe Ruth will fly much farther and much faster that a perfect perfect hit with Ozzie Smith.
The want you to buy packs. They want you to grind programs. It would be idiotic for them to hamstring their marketplace.
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@joshjays44_psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
They better not take out Analog Stride hitting, cause I don't want to hit like I'm playing duck hunt target shooting.
On competitive it should really only be zone or zone plus analog imo. If not you leave room for complete randomness.
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@sean_87__psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
I get what you saying, I just think it’s weird to bat .400 with a player that hits .250 in person. Not really important to get the better cards if you can perform with lesser ones. I’m too old I guess, I like games a little more grounded to reality.
There is a simulation game style for that.
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@a_perfectgame said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@joshjays44_psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
They better not take out Analog Stride hitting, cause I don't want to hit like I'm playing duck hunt target shooting.
On competitive it should really only be zone or zone plus analog imo. If not you leave room for complete randomness.
Randomness!..its all timing with your stride...hmmmmm like a real baseball swing.....I can't imagine how DD casual noob guys play by pointing a target and then pressing X...wtf?..that's so silly.
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@joshjays44_psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@a_perfectgame said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@joshjays44_psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
They better not take out Analog Stride hitting, cause I don't want to hit like I'm playing duck hunt target shooting.
On competitive it should really only be zone or zone plus analog imo. If not you leave room for complete randomness.
Randomness!..its all timing with your stride...hmmmmm like a real baseball swing.....I can't imagine how DD casual noob guys play by pointing a target and then pressing X...wtf?..that's so silly.
Timing with your stride no matter where the ball is...zone and zone plus analog have to not only time the pitch but place the bat on the ball.
Stride skips an entire step and makes for random outcomes because it assumes because you timed the ball your bat was in the right place?? Or did you swing over it? Under it? Oh that’s right...you have no idea. Because it’s random
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@sean_87__psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
I get what you saying, I just think it’s weird to bat .400 with a player that hits .250 in person. Not really important to get the better cards if you can perform with lesser ones. I’m too old I guess, I like games a little more grounded to reality.
Look at it this way bud. If player has .250 in real life that is based off of 162 games max in regular season.
In MLBTS alot of people can play anywhere between 300 to 1400 games that is also gonna factor into batting avg.
I don't focus on that aspect of a card being realistic when it comes to (batting avg) as much as i do when it comes fielding,speed, batting stance,batting motion, and looks.
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
@sean_87__psn said in Feature Premiere - Pitching & Hitting Thread:
I get what you saying, I just think it’s weird to bat .400 with a player that hits .250 in person. Not really important to get the better cards if you can perform with lesser ones. I’m too old I guess, I like games a little more grounded to reality.
Look at it this way bud. If player has .250 in real life that is based off of 162 games max in regular season.
In MLBTS alot of people can play anywhere between 300 to 1400 games that is also gonna factor into batting avg.
I don't focus on that aspect of a card being realistic when it comes to (batting avg) as much as i do when it comes fielding,speed, batting stance,batting motion, and looks. At least in DD.
In fact it helps me if i am facing a guy that is batting .400 with a guy who is silver or bronze.
That is a red light for me and say [censored] this person can hit with this guy with lower vision. So i might approach him differently with my pitcher so it can also act as a tool.
Grrrrrrr was supposed to be part of edit of last post !!!
