10 Things I hope get fixed in The Show 21

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Overall, I think The Show is the best sports game on the market. The content is great, it’s not to greedy on microtransactions, has decent offline content for those not wishing to play online, and probably plays truer to its sport than any other game. However, there are ten glaring issues that have been plaguing online play for years that I wish were addressed in future versions of the game.

Pitching
Check swings
Home hunting
Shippett
The Sinker
The extra step/pickoffs
Glare/batters eye
MLB stadium lag
All star difficulty
Peer to peer hosting/matchups

Hopefully out of these ten, one or two will be fixed. Once again, I love the game, but man it can be frustrating to run into these issues game after game, especially when you run into an opponent that knows how to exploit them.

SDS

All great items, but personally i think the number 1 thing that needs to be fixed next year is this tendency.

  • initial beta buzz and excitement
  • SDS being super responsive and reacting to community feedback for the first month or two.

Then a slow progression of deteriorating gameplay including bugs resurfacing from months before until by the end of the game cycle we end up back where we started: Wishing next year's game fixes the issues with this year's game.

End the cycle in 21.

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@abbyspapa said in 10 Things I hope get fixed in The Show 21:

All great items, but personally i think the number 1 thing that needs to be fixed next year is this tendency.

  • initial beta buzz and excitement
  • SDS being super responsive and reacting to community feedback for the first month or two.

Then a slow progression of deteriorating gameplay including bugs resurfacing from months before until by the end of the game cycle we end up back where we started: Wishing next year's game fixes the issues with this year's game.

End the cycle in 21.

As great as it would be to see this cycle change, it’s doubtful it will. With the yearly game cycle, a majority of the development team and resources are going towards next years version once June or July rolls around, leaving a lot of errors in the current game unfixed or tweaked with a slapdash patch. We’d probably be better of with a game released every two or three years, and paying for yearly roster updates or season passes, like the fortnite model. This would allow focus on fixing the current game as well as doing away with paying full price every year for what are at best incremental improvements in the game. However, the year to year model makes too much money so I don’t see it going away.

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Good list tbh

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@abbyspapa said in 10 Things I hope get fixed in The Show 21:

All great items, but personally i think the number 1 thing that needs to be fixed next year is this tendency.

  • initial beta buzz and excitement
  • SDS being super responsive and reacting to community feedback for the first month or two.

Then a slow progression of deteriorating gameplay including bugs resurfacing from months before until by the end of the game cycle we end up back where we started: Wishing next year's game fixes the issues with this year's game.

End the cycle in 21.

It’s not even that, it’s;

Pre launch: Whip up excitement with streams slowly revealing new legends and gameplay improvements. Promise that everything is fixed and will work fine this year at last. Explain you listened to the community.

Post launch: Continue to generate hype with shiny new cards. Confidently make passing reference to any game breaking issues that are causing the community to spam the chat. “We’re working on that, we hear you guys and we will have news on that very soon.” Etc etc.

Mid game cycle: Slowly fade away as it becomes apparent that nothing will actually get fixed with the patches and this is the game we’re all stuck with.

Late game cycle: Once acceptance has sunk in that nothing will be changed and the community is calmer, hype more “end game” cards and juiced flashbacks to generate interest for next years insipid offering. Discount game or give away free for same purposes.

Repeat for five years, count money.

SDS

For half the things you listed, I have no idea what you're talking about. A pinch of detail might be helpful.

How about this - just give players what they deserve. I sometimes hit a perfect perfect flyball with a 100, 100 guy and its a flyout to the warning track. Other times I deserve a fly ball and it's gone. That's so lame. I understand if they want to make it harder for a 9-0 game, but that's not what I'm talking about. That to me is the most frustrating thing.

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Infielders moving like they actually want to get to the ball and field it. If the infielders in real life played with the lack of urgency that they do in the game, they'd all be out of job.

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One or two things get fixed, but then one or two NEW things (if not more) become an issue, and the rest of the problems stay the same....seems to be the trend year to year.

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@JoeyRococo said in 10 Things I hope get fixed in The Show 21:

For half the things you listed, I have no idea what you're talking about. A pinch of detail might be helpful.

How about this - just give players what they deserve. I sometimes hit a perfect perfect flyball with a 100, 100 guy and its a flyout to the warning track. Other times I deserve a fly ball and it's gone. That's so lame. I understand if they want to make it harder for a 9-0 game, but that's not what I'm talking about. That to me is the most frustrating thing.

Which items are you talking about and I (or the community) will explain the issue with them.

SDS

This is actually a pretty solid list. Personally I would take the sun glare off of the list though because even though it sucks, it is realistic so I don't see why it should get taken away from the game. Pitching as you said is one of the hugest issues. If I have a pitcher with control in the mid to high 90's, then a perfect release should go exactly where I wanted it at least most of the time. I have pitchers with control in the 90's where over half of my perfect releases on the corners either go a good amount out of the zone or get placed too much toward the middle of the zone. One of the biggest, if not the biggest, issues in the game that you did not bring up was fielding as a whole. These guys field like little leaguers. There are way too many grounders and dribblers where there is no sense of urgency and the infielders take their sweet time throwing to first and allowing the runner to make it. This is stuff you see in little league and high school where there is no lack of urgency and beating out grounders is a regular thing. The outfielders are really bad with taking super long, slow routes to the ball and taking there time throwing the ball in or making unnecessary crow hops. Slow routes to the ball is something you see in lower levels of baseball because people don't know the proper footwork or are slower but these are supposed to be major league outfielders. The lack of urgency and taking these unnecessary crow hops is also things you see in little league because kids don't have enough strength to make a throw from the outfield. These are supposed to be major leaguers who definitely can make a lot of these throws without these extra steps. Overall, the fielders just need to field and make plays like major leaguers, not little leaguers.

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@MarinerMatt01 said in 10 Things I hope get fixed in The Show 21:

Overall, I think The Show is the best sports game on the market. The content is great, it’s not to greedy on microtransactions, has decent offline content for those not wishing to play online, and probably plays truer to its sport than any other game. However, there are ten glaring issues that have been plaguing online play for years that I wish were addressed in future versions of the game.

Pitching
Check swings
Home hunting
Shippett
The Sinker
The extra step/pickoffs
Glare/batters eye
MLB stadium lag
All star difficulty
Peer to peer hosting/matchups

Hopefully out of these ten, one or two will be fixed. Once again, I love the game, but man it can be frustrating to run into these issues game after game, especially when you run into an opponent that knows how to exploit them.

Great list! Home hunting, MLB stadium lags and glare on day games at some parks are very bad. I agree with all of them, perhaps except the extra step/pickoff (which I don't find to be a big issue). I'd add a few:
1-First baseman not going to first base on a line drive to RF. Several times the ball was hit hard by a slow runner who could have been thrown out at first but the 1B doesn't go to the bag.
2-Runners casually jogging to first on dropped 3rd strike instead of sprinting.
3-Dashboarding wiping away prestiging stats

Also would be nice to be able to place bulk purchase/sell orders on the market.

SDS

Is there any news on a 21? In my thorough 5 minute review of the internet I find nothing helpful.

SDS

1: Fix inconsistent hitting outcomes and make input matter again
2: Fix check swings, 99% success rate for safe checks is [censored]
3: Fix fielding animations. Fielders often don't lock onto the ball and lazy, wide tag attempts consistently let runners safely reach base

SDS

Fix pause times...

Perfect/perfect feedback... this should be a simple fix. If it is not going to be a HR or hit, do not give it the perfect/perfect feedback.

dashboarding- people do it because they know it is a HR, so just give players credit for the stats immediately if it is a HR. That way even if the other player rage quits, there is only 1 upset player and not 2.

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21?....who's getting 21?

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@RF21 said in 10 Things I hope get fixed in The Show 21:

Fix pause times...

Perfect/perfect feedback... this should be a simple fix. If it is not going to be a HR or hit, do not give it the perfect/perfect feedback.

dashboarding- people do it because they know it is a HR, so just give players credit for the stats immediately if it is a HR. That way even if the other player rage quits, there is only 1 upset player and not 2.

You can't expect every perfect/perfect to be a hit. That is not how baseball works. Just like in real baseball, there are times you will square up a ball and it goes right to someone and other times where you hit it off the end of the bat and you are early and you get a bloop hit. That's just how baseball is.

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@esmlb_rop said in 10 Things I hope get fixed in The Show 21:

3: Fix fielding animations. Fielders often don't lock onto the ball and lazy, wide tag attempts consistently let runners safely reach base

Yes!! I can't agree with this more. The fielders in this game play like little leaguers.

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I hope they at least fix the urgency on fielding. I'm tired of the infielders taking an extra 3-4 steps before they throw it. The AI in general needs an upgrade.

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@Matt_42187 said in 10 Things I hope get fixed in The Show 21:

I hope they at least fix the urgency on fielding. I'm tired of the infielders taking an extra 3-4 steps before they throw it. The AI in general needs an upgrade.

That and catchers always doing that ridiculous stretch before throwing the ball to 2nd\3rd base, letting the the runner steal safely

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@bayareaj1991 said in 10 Things I hope get fixed in The Show 21:

@RF21 said in 10 Things I hope get fixed in The Show 21:

Fix pause times...

Perfect/perfect feedback... this should be a simple fix. If it is not going to be a HR or hit, do not give it the perfect/perfect feedback.

dashboarding- people do it because they know it is a HR, so just give players credit for the stats immediately if it is a HR. That way even if the other player rage quits, there is only 1 upset player and not 2.

You can't expect every perfect/perfect to be a hit. That is not how baseball works. Just like in real baseball, there are times you will square up a ball and it goes right to someone and other times where you hit it off the end of the bat and you are early and you get a bloop hit. That's just how baseball is.

Agree with you 100%. The point I was trying to make is that a Perfect/Perfect should be given only for home runs. This would eliminate much of the frustration of players. Maybe they can add an additional feedback something like "great/great" and that designation could be for balls that were hit great but maybe to your point, you get unlucky or it is not an automatic home run.