We Demand Justice
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@maurice91932 said in We Demand Justice:
And if he really was slow, yet his smarts enabled him to push singles into doubles and doubles into triples, surely it was those same smarts that propelled Musial to 177 career three-baggers.
I believe that is what the "stealing" and "baserunning" attributes are for though. I am not sure what they gave Musial for that.
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@ChuckCLC said in We Demand Justice:
@maurice91932 said in We Demand Justice:
And if he really was slow, yet his smarts enabled him to push singles into doubles and doubles into triples, surely it was those same smarts that propelled Musial to 177 career three-baggers.
I believe that is what the "stealing" and "baserunning" attributes are for though. I am not sure what they gave Musial for that.
Certainly the base stealing and aggression attributes help with getting a good jump when stealing a bag. But in this game, when it comes to hitting doubles and triples, speed and the arm of the fielder is all that matters.
IRL, I’m sure Stan took advantage of some subpar fielders whenever he could. For us users in this game, though, we usually only see canons out there. Unless the game is at Polo, Musial cannot hit a triple.
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I too thought this was a David Justice petition, which I endorse fully. I'd take a faster Stan too, so I agree with everything.
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Musial should be at least a 60 for speed. It really is baffling. Hell, Ruth is a 60 and he was not faster than Musial. Nor was Ted Williams. As Bill James said, Musial always left the batters’ box on a dead run. His speed in the game is insulting.
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@Quint75 said in We Demand Justice:
Musial should be at least a 60 for speed. It really is baffling. Hell, Ruth is a 60 and he was not faster than Musial. Nor was Ted Williams. As Bill James said, Musial always left the batters’ box on a dead run. His speed in the game is insulting.
Finally! Someone with the same passion for this as me! Forty-seven speed is a travesty!
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Yawn... this is what we’re complaining about now? A couple speed pts that won’t hardly matter?
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@Hikes83 said in We Demand Justice:
Yawn... this is what we’re complaining about now? A couple speed pts that won’t hardly matter?
I agree with the OP. It's pretty dumb that some of these players are that much faster than him. It would make him much more usable than he currently is.
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Good argument, bad title.
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@abbyspapa said in We Demand Justice:
I thought this thread was for David Justice, now I'm just disappointed
Yankee David justice not brave David justice
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@MaxHarvest said in We Demand Justice:
@abbyspapa said in We Demand Justice:
I thought this thread was for David Justice, now I'm just disappointed
Yankee David justice not brave David justice
You'll take Cleveland David Justice and like it!
Seriously, he spent some of his best years in Cleveland.
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@MaxHarvest said in We Demand Justice:
@abbyspapa said in We Demand Justice:
I thought this thread was for David Justice, now I'm just disappointed
Yankee David justice not brave David justice
Actually I demand the following cards:
1990 Awards ROY Braves
2000 Postseason Yankees
1997 All Star Flashback Indians
And of course a 2002 Veteran Flashback AthleticsAdd a Sig card just to cover it all off.
That should keep everyone happy.
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@abbyspapa said in We Demand Justice:
@MaxHarvest said in We Demand Justice:
@abbyspapa said in We Demand Justice:
I thought this thread was for David Justice, now I'm just disappointed
Yankee David justice not brave David justice
Actually I demand the following cards:
1990 Awards ROY Braves
2000 Postseason Yankees
1997 All Star Flashback Indians
And of course a 2002 Veteran Flashback AthleticsAdd a Sig card just to cover it all off.
That should keep everyone happy.
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I agree, it is a bit low....I doubt they will do anything though, they still have Betts with 62 Speed and he can run with just about anyone.
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One player with absolutely no hustle at all is Awards Sheffield. Hit a weak chopper down the third base line, basically a swinging bunt and he pulled that slow jog like they would on an easy grounder to second. any hustle (with 71 speed) would have beat it out...easy! Come on man!
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@Johnny_Coletrain said in We Demand Justice:
One player with absolutely no hustle at all is Awards Sheffield. Hit a weak chopper down the third base line, basically a swinging bunt and he pulled that slow jog like they would on an easy grounder to second. any hustle (with 71 speed) would have beat it out...easy! Come on man!
Agreed. Sheffield shows no urgency at all. Imagine if he had continued as a SS?
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@abbyspapa said in We Demand Justice:
And of course a 2002 Veteran Flashback Athletics
ONLY if the 2002 Veteran card actually shows Stephen Bishop.
"Well Good Luck with that!!"
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@eatyum said in We Demand Justice:
Triples and stolen bases do not indicate speed. Yadier Molina stole 6 bases last year and 9 in 2017. You can be a smart base runner, you don't need speed to steal bases
Steals are more of a "you have to want to steal" kind of stat. It's all about the players motivation, players like Doby probably could have stolen more if they wanted to. It isn't always an indication of speed
Also I read up on the triples thing, apparently, Stan took more pride in hitting a triple then a home run, so that could also be chalked up to hussle, he loved getting triples.
I tried to find sprint speed, but couldn't find anything, so I'm not sure where Musial gets his speed from, but I don't think looking at triples or stolen bases reflect speed either, so idk what the answer is.
You really tried to find sprint speed stats from the 1940's to 1960's?
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@Chuck_Dizzle29 said in We Demand Justice:
@eatyum said in We Demand Justice:
Triples and stolen bases do not indicate speed. Yadier Molina stole 6 bases last year and 9 in 2017. You can be a smart base runner, you don't need speed to steal bases
Steals are more of a "you have to want to steal" kind of stat. It's all about the players motivation, players like Doby probably could have stolen more if they wanted to. It isn't always an indication of speed
Also I read up on the triples thing, apparently, Stan took more pride in hitting a triple then a home run, so that could also be chalked up to hussle, he loved getting triples.
I tried to find sprint speed, but couldn't find anything, so I'm not sure where Musial gets his speed from, but I don't think looking at triples or stolen bases reflect speed either, so idk what the answer is.
You really tried to find sprint speed stats from the 1940's to 1960's?
I mean there are videos of him running, I feel like there'd at least be some kind of estimate
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Heeeyyyy. The original post is up to 20 likes!
Read the research, everybody! I think I make a good case (even though the title of my post might not be the best).
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