Kenley Jansen?
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@James97M said in Kenley Jansen?:
Am I the only one who gets absolutely crushed while pitching with him? Any tips?
Funny I have been absolutely dominate with him closing games but he recently blew two consecutive saves for me
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Just like you op always get smacked with him. I Probably don’t know how to pitch it’s him.
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He is hands down the best reliever in the game.
135 innings 2.20 ERA and 0.82 WHIP. Righties hit .205 against him and Lefties hit .191 off him.
His cutter and slider are his best pitches. It's just you have to make sure you jam that cutter in. If it keeps randomly hanging, stop throwing it. -
I have about 25-30 innings with him and he has a 2.45 era. Not terrible, but when you compare my top guys, it’s not great. Goose has a 1 era over 120 innings and 75+ saves. 89 Fingers has a .90 era in over 90 innings. SS Fingers has give. Up 1 ER in almost 40 innings and it came in a gm I had to use him for 6 innings that he gave up a walkoff hit. Romo has zero ERA in about 30 innings. SS Wade Davis has a real small sample size, of about 12-15 innings online and zero ERA. Kenley is good, but his cutter just hangs too much for me. He’s not a guy that scares me out of the pen either. Personally, I struggle more against people with big fastballs, sinker and curveball combos.
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@James97M said in Kenley Jansen?:
Am I the only one who gets absolutely crushed while pitching with him? Any tips?
I had the same issue last RS. It seems like pitchers vary more than hitters RS to RS. Gotta tough it out while SDS forces pitches down the middle. Or miss a mile wide on a near perfect release.
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I hit a 3 run walkoff off of him in my last game. I hit him pretty well too. I feel likes it's difficult to hit spots with him.
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For me he's either unhittable or the opposing team just puts on a laser show. There is no in between.
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My tip is throw the cutter and sinker to the same spot or look like they are going to the same spot and then end them with the slider
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For me he is not deceptive enough with his delivery & other guys picks up on what I'm throwing & where. Overall he is decent then most closers/relievers out there, but not within the best top 7 in my opinion. For a 99 SS Diamond, to me he does not pitch like it, more like a 85-90 Diamond. I only use him when I need to insert into my DD Team Bullpen because my Bullpen may have been heavily taxed in the last 2-3 & I need a fresh arm to use while it takes 1-2 games for my other guys to re coop energy.
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Jansen is fantastic. His cutter is easily a top 5 pitch in the game.
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I only have about 10-12 IP with him but he’s dominate, 2 ER that came in the “You scored some runs so now your opponent gets a huge boost” phase of a recent game. A HR on basically the only pitch he squared up all game.
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@TonyTheTiger2k16 said in Kenley Jansen?:
For me he is not deceptive enough with his delivery & other guys picks up on what I'm throwing & where. Overall he is decent then most closers/relievers out there, but not within the best top 7 in my opinion. For a 99 SS Diamond, to me he does not pitch like it, more like a 85-90 Diamond. I only use him when I need to insert into my DD Team Bullpen because my Bullpen may have been heavily taxed in the last 2-3 & I need a fresh arm to use while it takes 1-2 games for my other guys to re coop energy.
Wow you don’t think he is top 7. Who is your top 7 in this game.?
I got
Jansen
Wagner
Gagne
Miller
Chapman
Kimbrel
Britton -
Hate to agree with Maverick but Kenley is definitely top 7 closer/ reliever
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I’ve been playing a lot of events recently and Jansen gets rocked for me. It seems that he never gets calls on the black. When he does hit his spots, the batter will inevitably get a late ok hit followed by a hanging slider to the next batter that gets jacked. I checked my stats and of all the other relievers I use a lot, the highest era is a 4.00. My boy Jansen has a 6.00. I try to be smart when I use him. I know that everyone is aware of his cutter, so I try to keep batters off balance with his other stuff but nothing seems to work.
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@Stoudamire20 said in Kenley Jansen?:
Hate to agree with Maverick but Kenley is definitely top 7 closer/ reliever
It must be hard for you to acknowledge a valid point of view. Do you lose points in your crew for that or something.
Jansen was pretty much lights out for me until about a week ago and now he is still at the top. Just not ridiculous
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@Maverick31762 said in Kenley Jansen?:
@TonyTheTiger2k16 said in Kenley Jansen?:
For me he is not deceptive enough with his delivery & other guys picks up on what I'm throwing & where. Overall he is decent then most closers/relievers out there, but not within the best top 7 in my opinion. For a 99 SS Diamond, to me he does not pitch like it, more like a 85-90 Diamond. I only use him when I need to insert into my DD Team Bullpen because my Bullpen may have been heavily taxed in the last 2-3 & I need a fresh arm to use while it takes 1-2 games for my other guys to re coop energy.
Wow you don’t think he is top 7. Who is your top 7 in this game.?
I got
Jansen
Wagner
Gagne
Miller
Chapman
Kimbrel
BrittonMy 7 go to guys in my Bullpen that I'm using now on a regular basis (until I get others within my wishlist) that are giving "me" the best results for "myself" are the following
(Lefty's)
PS-19 Britton
LS Felipe Vasquez (Yes for a LS card he is AWESOME for me)
(Righty's)
Finest Yates
Finest Hendricks
SS Hoffman
SS Nen
All Star 95 Diamond GossageAgain these are the closers/relievers that works best for "ME".
I only insert Jansen at times when I need a fresh arm to use while the others stay in the pen re cooping. I use SS Smith the same way.I still have not gotten yet Wagner, Gane, Miller or Chapman. They are on my wishlist.
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@Maverick31762 said in Kenley Jansen?:
@Stoudamire20 said in Kenley Jansen?:
Hate to agree with Maverick but Kenley is definitely top 7 closer/ reliever
It must be hard for you to acknowledge a valid point of view. Do you lose points in your crew for that or something.
Jansen was pretty much lights out for me until about a week ago and now he is still at the top. Just not ridiculous
Wasn't hard at all when the viewpoint was actually valid.
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For those who think Jensen is top 7 or whatever, what level do you play on? Have you ever crack the top 100 in any RS. Cause if you had you should know that Jensen is super easy to hit. Now, if you play against average players then yes he is amazing.
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@Rusty-_-Rod said in Kenley Jansen?:
For those who think Jensen is top 7 or whatever, what level do you play on? Have you ever crack the top 100 in any RS. Cause if you had you should know that Jensen is super easy to hit. Now, if you play against average players then yes he is amazing.
I strongly disagree. He's been solid for me all across the rankings, including against top 100 folks. Yeah, he'll hang a cutter every now and again, but I'll blame myself for that and for not mixing/locating better, I won't blame the card. He's not in my top 3, but he's definitely in my top 7.
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@Rusty-_-Rod said in Kenley Jansen?:
For those who think Jensen is top 7 or whatever, what level do you play on? Have you ever crack the top 100 in any RS. Cause if you had you should know that Jensen is super easy to hit. Now, if you play against average players then yes he is amazing.
I haven’t played against top 100. But he seems to do pretty good against the other 20,000 people online. I have used him in WS no problem.
