How much do you value bullpen arms?
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@formallyforearms said in How much do you value bullpen arms?:
How does everyone feel about having a couple junk throwers in their pen so it's not all straight gas? I've got Franco, and Gagne for a different look than Wagner/McGee and Dibble/Henke. Fingers is the best of both worlds though.
Those junk pitchers are great when used at the right time. Francos screwball, for example, can take a few at bats to pick up. By then you've got yourself through an inning late in the game.
That's been the case for me, anyway.
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It's High Priority, which is difficult cause every reliever i seem to throw out there gets smashed. There's so few "Great" Options that it seems like anyone you put out there, everybody has seen a million times so they're very hittable. Combine that with the randomness of pitch location. Lefty Relievers are even harder to find. I have the most confidence in Gagne right now. Everyone knows that Slow Stuff's coming, but that curve is Filty and no one can touch it. Until it hangs of course. Just picked up SS Chapman so I've only used him once. Little Nervous the whole time cause he spotted only 1 out of every 3 Pitches. SS Mo has been better than the lower diamond version, but still gets hit around. Dibbles Filthy, but if he can't hit corners and your opponent can hit fastballs you're screwed.
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@wingo18 said in How much do you value bullpen arms?:
LS Chapman is beastly on a budget if you’re like me and can’t afford his Sig
I second this. He is the lowest rated guy in my pen and still my closer.
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It is important but I really have not invested alot in it. Just find guys you are good with. There are a ton of lefties for completing LS sets. Wagner is the best but Plesac and Doolittle are solid or LS Chapman and LS Hader. Find someone you are good with and stick with them. Im shocking good with MA Neris and LS Chapman. Also find guys that complement your starters. If you have a starter that throws mostly heat, guys like Hader and Chapman will get rocked. However a junk pitcher (gagne, franco) or funky windup (eck) will be affective. Perhaps my favorite part about this game is alot of it based on feel ( batter stance, windup) so you dont always have to have everyone as a 99.
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3 ppl Dibble Mo Chapman everyone else is just there for the ride.
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I Got a 600k bullpen my most important area of my team easily
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4 lights out righties and 3 lights out leftiea
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It's all about different looks. No RP in before the 7th. I'm never fatigued.
Hoffman
Dibble
Mariano
Rollie
Chapman
Miller
WagnerThey get it done.
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Wagner, McGee, Sig Chapman (although LS is very good aswell) Prestige Mo, Gange, Dibble, Rollie.
As far as I'm concerned this is the best pen you can make right now.
Honourable mentions to Eckersley, Rodney, Dolittle, and Edwin Diaz, but aside from Eck don't pitch to more than 3 batter with any of them.
I also use my 5th starter as a long relief/mop up roll. For that a use LS Scherzer because he's still one of the best pitchers in the game for me.
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@mubby_33 said in How much do you value bullpen arms?:
@wingo18 said in How much do you value bullpen arms?:
LS Chapman is beastly on a budget if you’re like me and can’t afford his Sig
I second this. He is the lowest rated guy in my pen and still my closer.
One more thing to add... My only RP with a 0.00 era in the event
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I need to put more stock in it. I usually dominate with my starting pitchers and then I turn to my pen in the 8th and all of a sudden things go wrong. Rollie Fingers is the only guy I trust in my pen.
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I value them a lot. I almost always start games ice cold with the bat so when I finally get a slim lead I need to close that [censored] out. Chapman is such a relief (no pun intended) to have in those situations.
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Less than other years but it’s usually the most dominate part of my team, starters next. You can find glitchy bats that produce insanely well. Pitching usually comes down to attributes or outlier.
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@MikeForbes101 said in How much do you value bullpen arms?:
I need to put more stock in it. I usually dominate with my starting pitchers and then I turn to my pen in the 8th and all of a sudden things go wrong. Rollie Fingers is the only guy I trust in my pen.
I'm about the same. It's always something that I know I should be improving, but end up forgetting to improve as more content gets added.
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@trongo_85 said in How much do you value bullpen arms?:
Not seeing Prime Betances getting much love here. It's pretty solid, but way too expensive now if you didn't do the work to unlock him in the Prime event.
The Slurve is nasty and can be thrown pretty much anywhere but the lack of a third non fastball makes him a tier 2 option. Id him out and Diaz right aroujd the same spot with the edge to Betances because the slurve is elite.
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Too priority honestly ,
I have my top guys
Dibble
Mo
Fingers
HenkeBritton
Chapman
Franco / WagnerThen I have alternates for important games when I need full steam
Betances 95
Goose 90
Nen 92
And on and on.I invest in keeping my back up guys top teir also so I can always have a fully rested pen for a crucial game like going up a division
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@MaxHarvest said in How much do you value bullpen arms?:
Too priority honestly ,
I have my top guys
Dibble
Mo
Fingers
HenkeBritton
Chapman
Franco / WagnerThen I have alternates for important games when I need full steam
Betances 95
Goose 90
Nen 92
And on and on.I invest in keeping my back up guys top teir also so I can always have a fully rested pen for a crucial game like going up a division
How good is that Betances card between Goose and Nen?
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@ScaryLarito said in How much do you value bullpen arms?:
@MaxHarvest said in How much do you value bullpen arms?:
Too priority honestly ,
I have my top guys
Dibble
Mo
Fingers
HenkeBritton
Chapman
Franco / WagnerThen I have alternates for important games when I need full steam
Betances 95
Goose 90
Nen 92
And on and on.I invest in keeping my back up guys top teir also so I can always have a fully rested pen for a crucial game like going up a division
How good is that Betances card between Goose and Nen?
I was skeptical with just the 4, the 2 and the slurve. But he’s super nasty dude, his delivery is hard to pick up if it’s slurve or heat , and they crazy juiced that slurve. It’s one of the best pitches in the game imo. I love the card , glad I kept it. Blows both goose and nen our if the water imo, and I love both those cards too.
I would rank betances a 7 , nen a 6 and goose a 5. For reference I would say dibble is a 8 and mo 8. If give fingers a 7.5
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95% of my play is on all-star, so they are all a disaster.
It’s tough because I’m really close to trout, and I’m finding hard to have 150k sitting there in Chapman when he gets rocked as much as he does. The ball literally never goes where I want it to - even with good pitch feedback.
