How is Flaherty a Diamond?
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I've always wondered how they come up with some ratings. Flaherty is great, but I think there are others that deserve a diamond rating more than he does, like Juan Soto (completely unbiased).
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@VEGAS__T said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
If I remember correctly from last years streams, the head content guy is a huge cardinals fan. Its the reason they had 2-3x the amount of signature series cards last year than any other team and I think his biased is showing again this year with that Flaherty rating. He’s been good but not diamond worthy, not yet.
This is true. Why do you think we got more Cardinals cards last year than any other team?
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I was a little surprised he was a diamond. I thought he'd start the season high gold and eventually be a diamond. I assumed they wanted to have one on the Cardinals for collections. He did have the best second half of any pitcher last year and was lights out, so I don't think it's a super stretch, but I agree I would have thought 83 or 84 overall.
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Don't worry, the SDS Cards homers will release a 99 rated Future WS MVP Flaherty card any day now.
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@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
Don't worry, the SDS Cards homers will release a 99 rated Future WS MVP Flaherty card any day now.
Can’t wait for that 95 FS Kolten Wong with like 90s across the board offensively.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
Don't worry, the SDS Cards homers will release a 99 rated Future WS MVP Flaherty card any day now.
Can’t wait for that 95 FS Kolten Wong with like 90s across the board offensively.
Oh come on. Even if Flaherty is slightly overrated, who else have they rated unfairly high for the Cardinals?
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@coastereight said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
Don't worry, the SDS Cards homers will release a 99 rated Future WS MVP Flaherty card any day now.
Can’t wait for that 95 FS Kolten Wong with like 90s across the board offensively.
Oh come on. Even if Flaherty is slightly overrated, who else have they rated unfairly high for the Cardinals?
Yeah that Ankiel SS was on point.
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@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@coastereight said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
Don't worry, the SDS Cards homers will release a 99 rated Future WS MVP Flaherty card any day now.
Can’t wait for that 95 FS Kolten Wong with like 90s across the board offensively.
Oh come on. Even if Flaherty is slightly overrated, who else have they rated unfairly high for the Cardinals?
Yeah that Ankiel SS was on point.
It was the lowest rated sig series card. All sig series cards were jacked up. And for what it's worth, his rookie year he had a 134 ERA+ and 194 strikeouts in 175 innings.
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8th best pitcher WAR last year and just about every projection system has (had) him being Top 10 again this year.
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@SaveFarris said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
8th best pitcher WAR last year and just about every projection system has (had) him being Top 10 again this year.
If the game ratings were based solely on last years stats then he would be diamond worthy but it’s supposed to be a three year average. And they dont use projections to determine ratings so it seems a little premature to throw the diamond label on him is all. High rated gold with a diamond upgrade later this year assuming he pitched at the same level would seem more appropriate
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@coastereight said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@coastereight said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
Don't worry, the SDS Cards homers will release a 99 rated Future WS MVP Flaherty card any day now.
Can’t wait for that 95 FS Kolten Wong with like 90s across the board offensively.
Oh come on. Even if Flaherty is slightly overrated, who else have they rated unfairly high for the Cardinals?
Yeah that Ankiel SS was on point.
It was the lowest rated sig series card. All sig series cards were jacked up. And for what it's worth, his rookie year he had a 134 ERA+ and 194 strikeouts in 175 innings.
Great, he should have had a RoY card then, SS is based off multiple years and Ankiel was...not so much.
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I'm a Cubs fan so it pains me to say this but he was probably the best NL pitcher in the 2nd half. Look @his numbers after the ASB. Honestly absurd.
But I hear ya. If they're still basing it off 3 years, he probably should be a high gold. Also, Kluber should still be a diamond and Wade Davis probably hasn't sucked quite enough to warrant being a COMMON haha. How quickly the mighty have fallen.
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@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@coastereight said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@coastereight said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
Don't worry, the SDS Cards homers will release a 99 rated Future WS MVP Flaherty card any day now.
Can’t wait for that 95 FS Kolten Wong with like 90s across the board offensively.
Oh come on. Even if Flaherty is slightly overrated, who else have they rated unfairly high for the Cardinals?
Yeah that Ankiel SS was on point.
It was the lowest rated sig series card. All sig series cards were jacked up. And for what it's worth, his rookie year he had a 134 ERA+ and 194 strikeouts in 175 innings.
Great, he should have had a RoY card then, SS is based off multiple years and Ankiel was...not so much.
He came on 2nd in ROY voting to Furcal. It was a multi-year card in the sense that it had good hitting attributes. He was an outfielder in the league for years afterward. He had back-to-back seasons with a 119 and 120 ops+. Hit 25 homeruns in 2008 I think it was.
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@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
Don't worry, the SDS Cards homers will release a 99 rated Future WS MVP Flaherty card any day now.
You mean the 99 rookie Randal Grichuk?
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Ankiel was a once in a lifetime talent. Too bad LaRussa didn’t know how to handle him. Too bad he left him on the mound to die in the playoffs. I live 20 min East of stl and watched it all unfold!
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He doesn't have 3 full years, similar to Pete Alonso. However, if you have two working eyeballs, you'd understand why both got diamond cards.
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@TechnologicPR4 said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
Don't worry, the SDS Cards homers will release a 99 rated Future WS MVP Flaherty card any day now.
You mean the 99 rookie Randal Grichuk?
Randal Grichuk plays for the Blue Jays and has for a while. Thank you for your contribution.
Edit: I realize now you meant a flashback. Nevermind.
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@coastereight said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@coastereight said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@coastereight said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
@abbyspapa said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
Don't worry, the SDS Cards homers will release a 99 rated Future WS MVP Flaherty card any day now.
Can’t wait for that 95 FS Kolten Wong with like 90s across the board offensively.
Oh come on. Even if Flaherty is slightly overrated, who else have they rated unfairly high for the Cardinals?
Yeah that Ankiel SS was on point.
It was the lowest rated sig series card. All sig series cards were jacked up. And for what it's worth, his rookie year he had a 134 ERA+ and 194 strikeouts in 175 innings.
Great, he should have had a RoY card then, SS is based off multiple years and Ankiel was...not so much.
He came on 2nd in ROY voting to Furcal. It was a multi-year card in the sense that it had good hitting attributes. He was an outfielder in the league for years afterward. He had back-to-back seasons with a 119 and 120 ops+. Hit 25 homeruns in 2008 I think it was.
Ok man you're right, a guy with a career WAR of 9.1, 13 career wins, 76 career HRs, a career .240 hitter and ERA of almost 4 with one good season certainly deserved an 88 Sig Series card.
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@Chuck_Dizzle29 said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
He doesn't have 3 full years, similar to Pete Alonso. However, if you have two working eyeballs, you'd understand why both got diamond cards.
It’s just contradicting of SDS. They say they base so much on statistics but ratings are heavily swayed by how they can change the market.
The “use your eyes” didn’t apply to Nolan Arenado having gold fielding last year, or even back in 17 or 18 when he had like 40 reaction.
SDS just does whatever they want with ratings at times to make sure certain collections aren’t tanked. And also to make sure they can drop a better version of the same player later.
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@Chuck_Dizzle29 said in How is Flaherty a Diamond?:
He doesn't have 3 full years, similar to Pete Alonso. However, if you have two working eyeballs, you'd understand why both got diamond cards.
Pete broke multiple records in his first and only season. Tell me all the records Flaherty broke so far in his 2.5 seasons...I’ll wait. And no one said he played 3 full years just saying you can’t base his rating purely on last year. He doesn’t even have a winning record for his career yet and they handing him a diamond lol. ERA wise yes he was an absolute stud for HALF a season but that doesn’t justify a diamond imo
