Drugs and Alcohol...?
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As I've said, the team does everything they can to to remove offensive content from the vault, but volume makes it a challenge, as I'm sure you can imagine.
That volume can make it seem like nothing is being done, but I assure you, that's not the case.
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@SDS_JoeK_PSN said in Drugs and Alcohol...?:
As I've said, the team does everything they can to to remove offensive content from the vault, but volume makes it a challenge, as I'm sure you can imagine.
That volume can make it seem like nothing is being done, but I assure you, that's not the case.
How many accounts have you banned for putting vulgar content in the vault? Moreover, what methods are you using to ensure those bans are not bypassed?
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL never gonna tell us. If they were actually doing it they'd give us details.
I've never seen a company lack so much accountability to its paid customers. Coca-Cola realized real quick when they screwed up with New Coke in the '80s.
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Drugs and Alcohol...?:
@SDS_JoeK_PSN said in Drugs and Alcohol...?:
As I've said, the team does everything they can to to remove offensive content from the vault, but volume makes it a challenge, as I'm sure you can imagine.
That volume can make it seem like nothing is being done, but I assure you, that's not the case.
How many accounts have you banned for putting vulgar content in the vault? Moreover, what methods are you using to ensure those bans are not bypassed?
They could release the number of accounts banned if they wanted to, but methods... absolutely not, the second they did that people would know what the defenses were and would start creating workarounds
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@Zachtronics_XBL said in Drugs and Alcohol...?:
Why are drugs and alcohol-related logos allowed in the Logo Vault?
This IS an E-rated game, is it not?
Not cool.
Agree. Both are not healthy and it should not be handled in any good way.
But I also do not get, why betting is so „okay“, but that is another story. Gambling in general is bad because it ruins people‘s lifes more often than not.
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That volume can make it seem like nothing is being done, but I assure you, that's not the case.
I assure you the border is secure.
JoeK Biden
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@PAinPA_PSN said in Drugs and Alcohol...?:
@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Drugs and Alcohol...?:
@SDS_JoeK_PSN said in Drugs and Alcohol...?:
As I've said, the team does everything they can to to remove offensive content from the vault, but volume makes it a challenge, as I'm sure you can imagine.
That volume can make it seem like nothing is being done, but I assure you, that's not the case.
How many accounts have you banned for putting vulgar content in the vault? Moreover, what methods are you using to ensure those bans are not bypassed?
They could release the number of accounts banned if they wanted to, but methods... absolutely not, the second they did that people would know what the defenses were and would start creating workarounds
Not if they do it the way I believe they can do it -- using the console's serial number and/or web ID number. Neither of those can be modified as they are hard coded into the console. The only way to get around that method would be for the person who was banned to purchase a new console. How many people do you think would be willing to plunk down that kind of money just to post vulgar images on an SDS online vault?
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@SDS_JoeK_PSN said in Drugs and Alcohol...?:
As I've said, the team does everything they can to to remove offensive content from the vault, but volume makes it a challenge, as I'm sure you can imagine.
That volume can make it seem like nothing is being done, but I assure you, that's not the case.
There's little to no excuse for the state of the logo vault. The volume of new uploads is not high at this point in the year. Every so often I scroll through a few recent pages and flag the worst offenders. It doesn't take more than a few minutes to scan through several hours of worth of new uploads and flag a few.
Curiously, I will sometimes flag a logo and get "Sorry, the requested player was not found." If the logo is connected to the user, and the user being gone means the logo cannot be reported, why is the logo still there?
Given the abysmal performance of the vaults is it seems highly likely that this is intern-level spaghetti code on the backend. It seems like the most likely explanation for the state of affairs is that there is a skeleton crew of an engineering team working on this game now. It would be a trivial programming exercise to block new uploads of the same logo after it has been reviewed and removed once. It would be slightly more complicated to detect similar-but-inexact uploads, but at this point I'm still flagging the same tits-out Hawk Tuah logo every day, so uploaders don't need to be remotely clever yet.
If there's no engineering budget to do anything about this, then punish the content team for a few hours a week to go manually remove some of this garbage. If anyone was putting in 15 minutes a day there wouldn't be a titty logo uploaded July 1st that is still currently available. Suggesting that there's too much volume for inappropriate logos to be removed within multiple days of being flagged is laughable.
At this point, after so many years of inaction, the ESRB should replace your E rating with an AO based on the logo vault. I bet things would actually get addressed quickly if that were a possibility. This is not a hard problem to solve. If you don't want to solve it then delete the logo vault and spare us having to look at ZYN ads directed at children.
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@YOSHI24_XBL I have an ex-girlfriend who goes out with her entire family, several times a year, and they drop between $3000-$9000 each at casino's. It's a FAMILY event. She said she doesn't have a gambling problem, but she hid it from me... I only knew when I asked her what she and her family did, one night.
As far as the former goes, I just think they could make it much better if these things are bagged and tagged immediately. Remember the Wii U? When something vulgar popped up, it was taken down immediately. This didn't happen in the first week or so, but it didn't take long. You'll see a "HAWK TUAH" logo show up, and it's got 55 dl in the first hour it was there, and then MORE people upload it.
This is a part of the game that absolutely NEEDS to be remedied.
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@YOSHI24_XBL obligatory « online content not rated by the ESRB »
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@yankblan_PSN I've know that this whole time, but that's not an excuse.
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@AltCtrlsDel_XBL said in Drugs and Alcohol...?:
@SDS_JoeK_PSN said in Drugs and Alcohol...?:
As I've said, the team does everything they can to to remove offensive content from the vault, but volume makes it a challenge, as I'm sure you can imagine.
That volume can make it seem like nothing is being done, but I assure you, that's not the case.
There's little to no excuse for the state of the logo vault. The volume of new uploads is not high at this point in the year. Every so often I scroll through a few recent pages and flag the worst offenders. It doesn't take more than a few minutes to scan through several hours of worth of new uploads and flag a few.
Curiously, I will sometimes flag a logo and get "Sorry, the requested player was not found." If the logo is connected to the user, and the user being gone means the logo cannot be reported, why is the logo still there?
Given the abysmal performance of the vaults is it seems highly likely that this is intern-level spaghetti code on the backend. It seems like the most likely explanation for the state of affairs is that there is a skeleton crew of an engineering team working on this game now. It would be a trivial programming exercise to block new uploads of the same logo after it has been reviewed and removed once. It would be slightly more complicated to detect similar-but-inexact uploads, but at this point I'm still flagging the same tits-out Hawk Tuah logo every day, so uploaders don't need to be remotely clever yet.
If there's no engineering budget to do anything about this, then punish the content team for a few hours a week to go manually remove some of this garbage. If anyone was putting in 15 minutes a day there wouldn't be a titty logo uploaded July 1st that is still currently available. Suggesting that there's too much volume for inappropriate logos to be removed within multiple days of being flagged is laughable.
At this point, after so many years of inaction, the ESRB should replace your E rating with an AO based on the logo vault. I bet things would actually get addressed quickly if that were a possibility. This is not a hard problem to solve. If you don't want to solve it then delete the logo vault and spare us having to look at ZYN ads directed at children.
Amen! Preach it, brother!
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I adore this game, I love the sport itself and the history.
I don't think we need to come down hard on anyone; this can be fixed, so the big picture takes precedent. I'm tired of addressing it, so I've been reaching out in as many ways as possible.
