Future Stars Hate
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@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
So make cards no one cares to use then?
They do all the time. And my recommendation is to release this card at the beginning of the game.
Jim freaking Palmers CY card is worse than quite a few future stars pitchers. That just isn't right.
And then people will say they make LS obsolete to fast.
Also I doubt Jim Palmer cares
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@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
So make cards no one cares to use then?
They do all the time. And my recommendation is to release this card at the beginning of the game.
Jim freaking Palmers CY card is worse than quite a few future stars pitchers. That just isn't right.
And then people will say they make LS obsolete to fast.
Also I doubt Jim Palmer cares
None of these cards are truly obsolete. Anyone is free to use them anytime they want. Conquest and Mini Seasons are perfect for using the non 99 cards. SDS could also do a much better job of event parameters like they have in the past to allow use online.
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@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
So make cards no one cares to use then?
They do all the time. And my recommendation is to release this card at the beginning of the game.
Jim freaking Palmers CY card is worse than quite a few future stars pitchers. That just isn't right.
And then people will say they make LS obsolete to fast.
Also I doubt Jim Palmer cares
And not sure how you got that out of my Jim Palmer example. You come to some odd conclusions/like to put words in people's mouths quite a bit it seems.
And I get it, you like super juiced FS cards and I don't. No amount of back and forth is going to change that.
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@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@eatyum_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
Problem is that they give them major juice not just a little. They could make a card for every minor leaguer for all I care but they should not be rated higher than anyone in the HOF. FS shouldn't be higher than a 90 IMO.
So make cards no one cares to use then?
They do all the time. And my recommendation is to release this card at the beginning of the game.
Jim freaking Palmers CY card is worse than quite a few future stars pitchers. That just isn't right.
And then people will say they make LS obsolete to fast.
Also I doubt Jim Palmer cares
And not sure how you got that out of my Jim Palmer example. You come to some odd conclusions/like to put words in people's mouths quite a bit it seems.
And I get it, you like super juiced FS cards and I don't. No amount of back and forth is going to change that.
My point is, if Jim Palmer himself doesn't care, why should you?
Of course neither of us are going to change our mind, and I wouldn't really say I like super juiced FS cards, give me legends over them all day, but I still enjoying finding a couple new swings from FS that I enjoy every year.
I actually don't have one FS on my team right now (scratch that ,I am using Grayson Rodriguez)
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@Dolenz_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@romeischillin said in Future Stars Hate:
I mean it's about how they'll play in the "future"
Only if the gods smile upon them and sugarplum fairies bless their bats.
I think there are like eight 99 overall future stars in the game. None of these guys is the next Trout or Pujols.
We'll have to see... I have all the faith in the world in my guy Francisco Alvarez.
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If you are that butthurt about Future Stars here's a solution... use other cards... don't worry about if a Future Stars has "better attributes"... use the cards you want to use... this game is so diverse with how you can build a team but everyone wants to jump on the same cards that they see people winning with... and here's the kicker they still don't win. Why use the #1 player in MLB's Diamond Dynasty team and lose instead of building a team that fits your game play or play with cards from your favorite team or use cards that you just enjoy using?
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@romeischillin said in Future Stars Hate:
@Dolenz_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@romeischillin said in Future Stars Hate:
I mean it's about how they'll play in the "future"
Only if the gods smile upon them and sugarplum fairies bless their bats.
I think there are like eight 99 overall future stars in the game. None of these guys is the next Trout or Pujols.
We'll have to see... I have all the faith in the world in my guy Francisco Alvarez.
Well, here's hoping you are right. I just remember previous years though. Wasn't it just last year that Wander Franco was the next big thing?
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@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
SDS does an awesome job on the prospect cards. If you play fantasy baseball it’s not that crazy hard to know the top dudes coming up in the next year, but I still give them a lot credit for taking the time to get it right.
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@Dolenz_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@romeischillin said in Future Stars Hate:
@Dolenz_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
@romeischillin said in Future Stars Hate:
I mean it's about how they'll play in the "future"
Only if the gods smile upon them and sugarplum fairies bless their bats.
I think there are like eight 99 overall future stars in the game. None of these guys is the next Trout or Pujols.
We'll have to see... I have all the faith in the world in my guy Francisco Alvarez.
Well, here's hoping you are right. I just remember previous years though. Wasn't it just last year that Wander Franco was the next big thing?
He's two years in and seems to be doing just fine... we'll see if he takes a leap into that next tier of ballplayer into Superstar within the next 3 years.
last season - .288/.463/.810 7 HR 39 RBI 70 G 281 AB
this season - .260/.396/.704 5 HR 23 RBI 58 G 227 AB
career - .276/.433/.763 12 HR 62 RBI 128 G 508 ABhim getting to play a season where he gets to or close to 162 games will be a better gauge of where he is though.
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It's the release timing of the Fake Series cards that makes me cringe.
They drop early prospects in the USA map. Then by the AS game, we're over saturated with guys that mostly haven't accrued 50 AB at the MLB level and are 90+.
By mid June, Fake Series outperform every LS card outside of the top 10. It's not something I enjoy. Seeing headliners, events and programs littered with unproven players in a MLB game isn't what I want to play.
I choose not to use them. I also understand that the young generation wants to use whoever is the highest OVR.
Inevitable byproduct is SDS screws up and starts dropping outliers leading to a Meta card of somebody that shouldn't even be carrying Spencer Strider's equipment bag to the team bus.
I'm over it. I won't argue my points here. Nothing productive will come of it. I will however continue to share my opinion on threads like these, asking about them.
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@mubby_33_PSN said in Future Stars Hate:
If nothing else it keeps the game fresh with new faces. Otherwise everyone would have the same team of legends and current superstars. One thing to consider is the trend in baseball prospects is more 5 tool players. Obviously a video game favors these guys with not just hitting but speed and defense.
Online everyone does have the same team almost lol
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I understand people not liking them but just as many people do so just don't use them if you don't like them. I also think saying to drop them early is a bad suggestion because of the first program was Future Stars instead of FotF with current players the community would [censored] it's pants.
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I love the Future Stars cards; would much rather use them than legends.
For me, and I suspect some others, it rides along on that recurring baseball motif of hope springing eternal with a rebirth of potential every season... and isn't one of the best parts of baseball that feeling that, despite the odds, your team is going to do it this year because someone unsuspecting is going to break out? Doesn't anyone else feel that same giddiness during trade season, when your team picks up some young player with loads of potential, and hope against hope that in three to five years, they'll be widely regarded as a generational talent? Sure, there are way more Van Poppel's than Griffey Jrs, but this is about how baseball is just as much about looking to the future as it is respecting the past.
I already know how good Jimmy Rollins was... maybe Robert Puason will be better. That's more exciting to me. That's the type of thing that keeps me going as an A's fan ([censored], something needs to), and that's the sentiment that FS cards tap into.
Like many have said, if you don't like them, don't use them. This game is full of Yankees past and present, and there's no way I'd defile my DD team with that type of nonsense, but to each their own.
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@sunburntcoyote_XBL said in Future Stars Hate:
So I’ve seen a lot of hate about how many future stars they keep adding to the game, and I understand the argument that they’re better than most current players and legends cards. I just grabbed the Corbin Carroll headliner from the free scouting report pack and he’s instantly been better than Griffey and Mantle were for me. After I unlocked Carroll I saw the video of him running around the bases like Usain Bolt. Oneil Cruz God card drops then he exit velos his way into the record books. It’s exciting seeing new guys burst onto the scene and why not give them a little juice as an intro.
I don’t have an issue with futures cards too much , I do think that SDS uses MILB players to cover up the fact that their legend pool is shrinking , and mostly stale. I also don’t have much issue with them having good versions , but I don’t think that you should say …. Hype a Griffey card for two weeks and have a handful of futures never done anything guys have already better cards established.
Some of these ‘legends’ go straight into collections because that’s all they are , while you have 3-5 future players you may or may not have ever even heard of carrying your lineup.
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Still waiting for that Jack Leiter future stars card.
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